Coach Who should be our next coach?

[Lore]

Spoiler: Timeline and reported candidates

15/8 Board toppled (reportedly will pursue Clarkson)
19/8 Alastair Clarkson to join North
21/8 Ben Rutten

Ben Rutten

Age

41

Ht

190cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.4

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.0

3star

sacked
22/8 Coach selection sub-committee to be established to find a replacement
26/8 Committee members announced: Josh Mahoney

Josh Mahoney

Age

46

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

(GM-Footy, chair), Dorothy Hisgrove (Board member), Andrew Thorburn, Simone McKinnis, Robert Walls, Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

38

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

7/9 James Hird, Dean Solomon

Dean Solomon

Age

44

Ht

189cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.5

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

17.6

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

2.8

5star

, Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

, Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

47

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

interviewed at EY
13/9 Daniel Giansiracusa

Daniel Giansiracusa

Age

42

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.6

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.0

4star

reportedly interviewed
17/9 Don Pyke “not pursuing that at this stage”
21/9 Brad Scott contacted by the club but won’t make a decision on whether to pursue the role until after the Grand Final
21/9 Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

47

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

has second interview and tours the training facilities at Tullamarine
22/9 Blake Caracella

Blake Caracella

Age

47

Ht

186cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.6

3star

will put his hat in the ring
27/9 Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

appointed as assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs, out of the running for Essendon job
28/9 Brad Scott to be interviewed on Thursday
29/9

 

[The Donners]

Merrett showing some leadership.

He is absolutely spot on too ya muppets.

He may be right but it’s not leadership.

 

[Nifft]

Smart people don't always make the right decisions. Sometimes they monumentally * up when chasing something big they care about. See Musk's acquisition of Twitter.

I agree with you that your theory is very believable. I agree it's something Sheedy would do. Simply saying I don't think it's something Barham would get behind based on things I've heard about him. I'm aware that I might be wrong.

Late replying to this one, however.... I thought Musk's Twitter "purchase" was a way for him to dump some of his Tesla stock when it was high? Not sure if he was ever serious about buying Twitter.

 

[DERO]

Forgetting Merrett for a a bit, it seems that we have players who don’t think having Hird back as coach is a good idea too…

 

[MiguelM]

They're not damning but they are indicative of a lack of respect, and as a future leader they're demonstrative. Not good. Not helpful.

I am starting to think he is not right for captain. But who?

If Hobbs was a few more years into the system, he just oozes leadership (from the outside, I am just looking at his on field personality)

 

[The Donners]

Maybe he (Merrett) thinks the club needs a certain coaching style.

He also wanted Rutten to stay ergo his opinion is not reflected with the brand (or lack there of - or difficulty for the players to comprehend) we were playing under Rutten.

 

[Howard Moon]

Forgetting Merrett for a a bit, it seems that we have players who don’t think having Hird back as coach is a good idea too…

the same players that wanted lyon? - seems to be lots of players wanting this and that. Reeks of an entitled playing group perhaps? if so it probably manifests on the field tbh

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Good leadership is standing up for what is right and not what makes you popular.

BRB just trying to find a leadership quote form LinkedIn to insert.

Good leadership is standing up for what is right. However what you feel isn’t always right and doing it in public is often not the best way to do it for your team.

I don’t think even Zach right now on reflection would consider that a moment of good leadership.

 

[DERO]

Good leadership is standing up for what is right. However what you feel isn’t always right and doing it in public is often not the best way to do it for your team.

I don’t think even Zach right now on reflection would consider that a moment of good leadership.

The cupboard is pretty bare.

I think maybe people should be focusing on the reason why the comment was made rather than who made it.

Why would Zach say something like this?

 

[DERO]

the same players that wanted lyon? - seems to be lots of players wanting this and that. Reeks of an entitled playing group perhaps? if so it probably manifests on the field tbh

I can see pretty clearly why they would want Lyon and I can see why they would not want Hird without really thinking too hard on it.

 

[MiguelM]

Like death & taxes, Hird was always going to be front and centre this week.....

Never change Damo!

IF ...​

those being put through the coach search "process" at Essendon have been asked to sign Non-Disclosure Arrangements...

THEN ...​

I wonder why a member of the sub-committee search "process", Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

38

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

, is speaking publicly about some of the goings-on. But I wonder even more why James Hird is being even considered. Certainly, a lot of the 34 players who missed a year of footy are wondering, too. Mess everywhere.

 

[Howard Moon]

I can see pretty clearly why they would want Lyon and I can see why they would not want Hird without really thinking too hard on it.

id agree with both but in the bigger picture how often do we hear about other clubs players wanting this or that?

is it a byproduct of the saga era that our players have special needs and feel they are allowed to voice them?

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

The cupboard is pretty bare.

I think maybe people should be focusing on the reason why the comment was made rather than who made it.

Why would Zach say something like this?

Because he thought it. It doesn’t mean it’s the consensus opinion of the playing group and that’s why it’s not good leadership.

Do you think, say, Langford feels this way? Hird is someone who continued to help Langford develop during and after his struggles to cement a spot in the side as a mid/forward hybrid.

Do you think he should have made those comments without the captain speaking first?

Do you think he’s polled the played group and got consent to air these opinions?

What it is is honestly giving his personal opinion in a public forum on a highly volatile subject.

Good leadership it is not.

I applaud his honesty on principal. But he was not under oath nor forced to do so or lie, so ultimately it’s not helpful to his team or club to state his beliefs in the public forum in this manner.

 

[citizen-erased]

The cupboard is pretty bare.

I think maybe people should be focusing on the reason why the comment was made rather than who made it.

Why would Zach say something like this?

Drafted to a club kicked out of finals, enters a club in the worst situation in the history of football (barring the Crows when Walsh died)
year 1 of his career - bomber is coaching whilst Hird sits a year out
year 2 - probably the worst year we've had. Hird quits/sacked
year 3 - most the side is suspended
year 4 - They all come back and it's about the return/redemption
year 5 - ok year. make finals
year 6 - hire assistant coach to replace the coach that was brought in to mend the joint
year 7 - Covid hubs
year 8 - Covid
year 9 - coach out, board spills...leading coach candidate was the guy in charge at the start of this journey.

 

[MiguelM]

id agree with both but in the bigger picture how often do we hear about other clubs players wanting this or that?

is it a byproduct of the saga era that our players have special needs and feel they are allowed to voice them?

Agreed, I have never heard Pendles air any dirty laundry TBH.

If you pander, you create a monster.

 

[Howard Moon]

Agreed, I have never heard Pendles air any dirty laundry TBH.

If you pander, you create a monster.

the only bloke that ever really says anything is danger - and thats cause hes the aflpa guy

 

[EliteCarParkFacilities]

Drafted to a club kicked out of finals, enters a club in the worst situation in the history of football (barring the Crows when Walsh died)
year 1 of his career - bomber is coaching whilst Hird sits a year out
year 2 - probably the worst year we've had. Hird quits/sacked
year 3 - most the side is suspended
year 4 - They all come back and it's about the return/redemption
year 5 - ok year. make finals
year 6 - hire assistant coach to replace the coach that was brought in to mend the joint
year 7 - Covid hubs
year 8 - Covid
year 9 - coach out, board spills...leading coach candidate was the guy in charge at the start of this journey.

You FORGOT, he took UNDERS and made a PACT with Daniher to make This Club Great Again, and laughed at JOM for choosing The Wee and Gold

 

[boncer34]

He's right.

But his opinion doesn't matter to me.

 

[Lore]

You FORGOT, he took UNDERS and made a PACT with Daniher to make This Club Great Again, and laughed at JOM for choosing The Wee and Gold

A) JOM didn’t achieve much at Hawthorn
B) the Trump parallels are not endearing

 

[jmoo wan]

Zach Merret has a long way to go before ever being considered close to being a great leader.

has he ever publicly called out and named an umpire as essentially being a cheat, resulting in a $20,000 fine? that’s leadership!

 

[Squeaky]

... and the pool gets shallower. Bravo EFC!

 

[windyhill]

Because he thought it. It doesn’t mean it’s the consensus opinion of the playing group and that’s why it’s not good leadership.

Do you think, say, Langford feels this way? Hird is someone who continued to help Langford develop during and after his struggles to cement a spot in the side as a mid/forward hybrid.

Do you think he should have made those comments without the captain speaking first?

Do you think he’s polled the played group and got consent to air these opinions?

What it is is honestly giving his personal opinion in a public forum on a highly volatile subject.

Good leadership it is not.

I applaud his honesty on principal. But he was not under oath nor forced to do so or lie, so ultimately it’s not helpful to his team or club to state his beliefs in the public forum in this manner.

Zach should’ve done what hird CONTINUALLY does. Gets others to do his bidding. Slobbo, sheedy, coterie dickheads etc. I applaud Merrett for having the balls to speak honestly and not use intermediarys like golden boy.

 

[DonsRule]

Forgetting Merrett for a a bit, it seems that we have players who don’t think having Hird back as coach is a good idea too…

We know who to trade for now being committed now....

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Zach should’ve done what hird CONTINUALLY does. Gets others to do his bidding. Slobbo, sheedy, coterie dickheads etc. I applaud Merrett for having the balls to speak honestly and not use intermediarys like golden boy.

How is what Hird would do relevant to whether what Zach did being good leadership or not?

 

[Milanista28]

Anyone here also frequent Blitz? What’s the sentiment about Hird for coach over there?

I'm over there a bit, it's similar to here, a few really want Hird and a few hate the idea, most just want to be good again and win games and don't care who the coach is as long as the process is followed and the committee is listened to.

 

[Beerfish]

Because he thought it. It doesn’t mean it’s the consensus opinion of the playing group and that’s why it’s not good leadership.

Do you think, say, Langford feels this way? Hird is someone who continued to help Langford develop during and after his struggles to cement a spot in the side as a mid/forward hybrid.

Do you think he should have made those comments without the captain speaking first?

Do you think he’s polled the played group and got consent to air these opinions?

What it is is honestly giving his personal opinion in a public forum on a highly volatile subject.

Good leadership it is not.

I applaud his honesty on principal. But he was not under oath nor forced to do so or lie, so ultimately it’s not helpful to his team or club to state his beliefs in the public forum in this manner.

So in actuality the response 'yeah nah she'll be right knackers' would have been the correct one.