Coach Who should be our next coach?

[Lore]

Spoiler: Timeline and reported candidates

15/8 Board toppled (reportedly will pursue Clarkson)
19/8 Alastair Clarkson to join North
21/8 Ben Rutten

Ben Rutten

Age

41

Ht

190cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.4

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.0

3star

sacked
22/8 Coach selection sub-committee to be established to find a replacement
26/8 Committee members announced: Josh Mahoney

Josh Mahoney

Age

46

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

(GM-Footy, chair), Dorothy Hisgrove (Board member), Andrew Thorburn, Simone McKinnis, Robert Walls, Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

38

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

7/9 James Hird, Dean Solomon

Dean Solomon

Age

44

Ht

189cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.5

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

17.6

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

2.8

5star

, Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

, Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

46

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

interviewed at EY
13/9 Daniel Giansiracusa

Daniel Giansiracusa

Age

42

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.6

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.0

4star

reportedly interviewed
17/9 Don Pyke “not pursuing that at this stage”
21/9 Brad Scott contacted by the club but won’t make a decision on whether to pursue the role until after the Grand Final
21/9 Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

46

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

has second interview and tours the training facilities at Tullamarine
22/9 Blake Caracella

Blake Caracella

Age

47

Ht

186cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.6

3star

will put his hat in the ring
27/9 Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

appointed as assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs, out of the running for Essendon job
28/9 Brad Scott to be interviewed on Thursday
29/9

 

[Seb78]

2 or 3 apparently ITK callers on sen going with Mark Williams senior coach and James Hird assistant. Who knows, but more than one caller going with it.
Not sure if succession plan scenario or not, but it's safe to say EFC want Hird back at the club in some capacity.

 

[bonedry]

2 or 3 apparently ITK callers on sen going with Mark Williams senior coach and James Hird assistant. Who knows, but more than one caller going with it.
Not sure if succession plan scenario or not, but it's safe to say EFC want Hird back at the club in some capacity.

Hird back could be extremely poisonous. I don't think there was enough evidence to say he was a good coach (not saying he isn't capable), so I'm not sure I would be rushing to get him back...but his mere presence could cause the club to spiral enough deeper into a success-depression.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

we should just appoint Gary Ayres and be done with it

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I think McVeigh might be my top choice.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gws-giants-press-conference/video/1cafc9da1575a69b133b4a8c53321d0b

When has a coach we've had call out the poor performances like this in such an articulate and composed manner?

not exactly an "experienced coach" though, is he

 

[bennyg12]

2 or 3 apparently ITK callers on sen going with Mark Williams senior coach and James Hird assistant. Who knows, but more than one caller going with it.
Not sure if succession plan scenario or not, but it's safe to say EFC want Hird back at the club in some capacity.

Im ok with that

 

[eth-dog]

2 or 3 apparently ITK callers on sen going with Mark Williams senior coach and James Hird assistant. Who knows, but more than one caller going with it.
Not sure if succession plan scenario or not, but it's safe to say EFC want Hird back at the club in some capacity.

It's SEN, and even worse it's their callers. They have nfi

 

[Here_we_come]

2 or 3 apparently ITK callers on sen going with Mark Williams senior coach and James Hird assistant. Who knows, but more than one caller going with it.
Not sure if succession plan scenario or not, but it's safe to say EFC want Hird back at the club in some capacity.

Wasn't this the exact prediction on BBlitz from 12 years ago for the 2011 season?

I remember reading Choco as senior coach with Hird and Lloyd as assistants in mid-2010 when Knights was still there.

Would have to laugh it it happens 12 years later...

 

[faible]

players have checked out and only a few are leading by example.

So the exact same problem Rutten has?

thats something Rutten would never do

How do you know? Saying something in a media presser is pretty irrelevant to the players themselves given the amount of conversations they have behind closed doors.

I trust that attitude and approach would go a long way to build trust/respect within a group with setting the right standards.

Except it didn't work for McVeigh did it?

 

[Beerfish]

Since he's categorically stated he has no interest and doesn't rate our list I think we should look at Ross Lyon.

 

[faible]

Since he's categorically stated he has no interest and doesn't rate our list I think we should look at Ross Lyon.

Someone who doesn't rate our list would be ideal for dampening some egos.

 

[andleanback]

Andrew Welsh is a very successful guy outside of footy.

Pretty critical of the current board though, so not sure they would want him. He would be first picked on any board ticket I'd put together to challenge though.

Lots of links with essendon people within coteries etc through his business.

 

[JayJ20]

I would actually be okay with Ken Hinkley. He's not strong strategically but he got Port fitter than anyone else in the comp when he first came in and they were a really strong defensive side.

Wasn’t that Burgess? He did it at both Melbourne and Port. Currently at Adelaide.

 

[Seb78]

It's SEN, and even worse it's their callers. They have nfi

I wasn't stating it as fact, just passing on the potential mooted scenario.

 

[thebigboy]

2 or 3 apparently ITK callers on sen going with Mark Williams senior coach and James Hird assistant. Who knows, but more than one caller going with it.
Not sure if succession plan scenario or not, but it's safe to say EFC want Hird back at the club in some capacity.

That is a rehash of what was apparently proposed before Hird became coach in 2011. Remember hearing Williams describe this scenario on the Sacked podcast on Herald Sun a few years back. Dunno if the club would really be considering that as a viable option (Or am I giving them too much credit?)

Williams being involved in some capacity would be great, but as a Senior Coach might just be a little bit too late.

 

[TheGrizz]

Lots of links with essendon people within coteries etc through his business.

Maybe, but seems very pro-external review and so that mix would help - wanting change but able to get along with coterie.

 

[Beerfish]

Why would Choco leave Richmond to come to this shitshow?

 

[bonedry]

So the exact same problem Rutten has?



How do you know? Saying something in a media presser is pretty irrelevant to the players themselves given the amount of conversations they have behind closed doors.



Except it didn't work for McVeigh did it?

Massive difference between Rutten having 3 years to make change and Mark McVeigh inheriting a side half way through a season.

They also did enough to smash our pathetic side.

You're right, I don't know for sure that Rutten didn't have those conversations behind closed doors...although judging by his press conferences and selection decisions I can make the assumption that he wasn't doing enough. The whole Shiel situation was a completely and utter mess. Talk about failing to set and follow through with standards.

 

[andleanback]

Maybe, but seems very pro-external review and so that mix would help - wanting change but able to get along with coterie.

Yeh he definitely wants change at the club. Problem is when you get on the board and you have to take the iron fist to people you’ve had to long term relationships with. Not everyone has the balls to follow through.

 

[faible]

Massive difference between Rutten having 3 years to make change and Mark McVeigh inheriting a side half way through a season.

They also did enough to smash our pathetic side.

You're right, I don't know for sure that Rutten didn't have those conversations behind closed doors...although judging by his press conferences and selection decisions I can make the assumption that he wasn't doing enough. The whole Shiel situation was a completely and utter mess. Talk about failing to set and follow through with standards.

Except Shiel did demonstrably improve his defensive running. To the point that our midfield looked better with Shiel in it than Parish.

Almost like it... worked?

 

[doug85]

Why would Choco leave Richmond to come to this shitshow?

To fulfil an ambition to be a senior coach?

 

[TheGrizz]

Why would Choco leave Richmond to come to this shitshow?

Well considering he is at Melbourne currently.....

But your sentiment stands.

 

[Beerfish]

Well considering he is at Melbourne currently.....

But your sentiment stands.

Melbourne, Richmond.. same thing

 

[bonedry]

Except Shiel did demonstrably improve his defensive running. To the point that our midfield looked better with Shiel in it than Parish.

Almost like it... worked?

How much of that was due to Shiels own pride and Ruttens influence though...I guess we will never know. Either it was all very awkward and confusing.

 

[Beerfish]

To fulfil an ambition to be a senior coach?

Didn't he do that at Port?

 

[faible]

How much of that was due to Shiels own pride and Ruttens influence though...I guess we will never know. Either it was all very awkward and confusing.

I'm quite confident Shiel and Rutten would have had a conversation out of the media that occurred between one game, and the team selection news coming out on AFL.com for the next game.