Banter Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 2

[Irish BlueBagger]

Agree flags are the ultimate measure but Carlton supporters problem is you have to play with other measures to stay in the discussion.

For younger Carlon supporters, and here i am thinking the 50 year olds and younger, its pretty well a straight out conclusion. It has sucked to follow the Blues. It was an unfortunate choice. The 5 spoons in 20 something years. Something akin to the last couple of decades of Fitzroy or South before their demise except those 2 were not as proficient at picking up spoons even in their death throes. Supporting an irrelevent club has demoralised the under 50 baggars.

For the older types they have something to lean back on. Like an old couch with pointy springs sticking into your bum its become less and less comfortable. The wasted decades of support have left most old baggar mates of mine shells of their once arrogant selves.

Face it, even a Pie like me , born in 1960, wouldnt dream of swapping the ride Pie supporters have had compared to the Blues over my lifetime. For a lot of time i was envious of your ride but thats long gone.

Equal on flags yes but give me contention and relevency over becoming hang dogs anyday. Perhaps the most beautiful thing has been the combined overflowing joy of Carlton becoming a Fitzroy/ South imitation while we remain the biggest team in the land. I love the karma bus

Quite a nice little spiel that. Grand final defeats might be good enough for Collingwood, but it'll never be good enough for Carlton.

Hmm irrelevant club you say considering that the "all mighty" Collingwood Football Club has only won three flags in the last sixty five years, i'd choose my words a little more carefully if i were you.

Just look at the last couple of pages on this thread. Just look at your fellow Pies supporters reactions to our revival as a footy power.

Those people are quite clearly worried and they have good reason to be worried. No other club has given more joy to Carlton than Collingwood 1915, 1938, 1970, 1979 and 1981. Put that in your bitter pipe and smoke it.

 

[Gone Critical]

Moderators should know better - this is the 2024 thread. Feel free to bring up the past in threads that were doing the rounds in 2004 or thereabouts

Was just replying to posts in this thread re the comparitive historys. Point taken though. Truth is sitting here in 2024 its never been better to be a supporter of one of our clubs.

P.S both if we cap it at the last 28 years

 

[Gone Critical]

Quite a nice little spiel that. Grand final defeats might be good enough for Collingwood, but it'll never be good enough for Carlton.

Hmm irrelevant club you say considering that the "all mighty" Collingwood Football Club has only won three flags in the last sixty five years, i'd choose my words a little more carefully if i were you.

Just look at the last couple of pages on this thread. Just look at you fellow Pies supporters reactions to our revival as a footy power.

Those people are quite clearly worried and they have good reason to be worried. No other club has given more joy to Carlton than Collingwood 1915, 1938, 1970, 1979 and 1981. Put that in your bitter pipe and smoke it.

Comprehension may not be the strong suit if you think i said GF defeats are enough but they are way in front of spoons

I love history as much as any but history, pretty ancient at that, is all Blues supportes have. Blues is an increasingly apt nickname dont you think

 

[Worm4]

Blues is an increasingly apt nickname dont you think

Blues , cold Pies it's all relative

 

[Aphrodite]

How many days are we up to since Collingwood beat Carlton in a grand final Aphrodite ?

41,543 days an counting

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

Comprehension may not be the strong suit if you think i said GF defeats are enough but they are way in front of spoons

I love history as much as any but history, pretty ancient at that, is all Blues supportes have. Blues is an increasingly apt nickname dont you think

A very silly post considering that no television footage exists of your clubs 1920 and 1930's heyday. It's just been the odd flag here and there for Collingwood since then, with a plethora of grand final defeats in between.

 

[Robertio]

Agree flags are the ultimate measure but Carlton supporters problem is you have to play with other measures to stay in the discussion.

For younger Carlon supporters, and here i am thinking the 50 year olds and younger, its pretty well a straight out conclusion. It has sucked to follow the Blues. It was an unfortunate choice. The 5 spoons in 20 something years. Something akin to the last couple of decades of Fitzroy or South before their demise except those 2 were not as proficient at picking up spoons even in their death throes. Supporting an irrelevent club has demoralised the under 50 baggars.

For the older types they have something to lean back on. Like an old couch with pointy springs sticking into your bum its become less and less comfortable. The wasted decades of support have left most old baggar mates of mine shells of their once arrogant selves.

Face it, even a Pie like me , born in 1960, wouldnt dream of swapping the ride Pie supporters have had compared to the Blues over my lifetime. For a lot of time i was envious of your ride but thats long gone.

Equal on flags yes but give me contention and relevency over becoming hang dogs anyday. Perhaps the most beautiful thing has been the combined overflowing joy of Carlton becoming a Fitzroy/ South imitation while we remain the biggest team in the land. I love the karma bus

I wouldn't want to swap the ride from now on for quids.

 

[Fadge]

A very silly post considering that no television footage exists of your clubs 1920 and 1930's heyday. It's just been the odd flag here and there for Collingwood since then, with a plethora of grand final defeats in between.

Collingwood's heyday has been the entire history of the VFL/AFL - having playing in more than 1/3 of all Grand Finals contested.

The most recent 2.5 years, where we have won more games than any other team (including a premiership), has also been quite the heyday.

 

[Fadge]

I wouldn't want to swap the ride from now on for quids.

Yeah, yeah, yeah...

You guys said that same thing after 2021....

'But it will be different this time...'

 

[Robertio]

Yeah, yeah, yeah...

You guys said that same thing after 2021....

'But it will be different this time...'

We'll find out mate.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

Collingwood's heyday has been the entire history of the VFL/AFL - having playing in more than 1/3 of all Grand Finals contested.

The most recent 2.5 years, where we have won more games than any other team (including a premiership), has also been quite the heyday.

As i said to someone else grand final defeats might be good enough for Collingwood, but it will never be good enough for Carlton.

 

[Aphrodite]

im so happy for you and all your Carlton mates winning all those finals in the last 20 years e.. really raced ahead in the premierships tally

Just like Aarow, looks like youre stuck in the past counting days. #RentFree#rentfree

Talk about rent free

 

[Aphrodite]

A very silly post considering that no television footage exists of your clubs 1920 and 1930's heyday. It's just been the odd flag here and there for Collingwood since then, with a plethora of grand final defeats in between.

 

[Fadge]

As i said to someone else grand final defeats might be good enough for Collingwood, but it will never be good enough for Carlton.

I guess a team has got to be good enough to get to a Grand Final to be defeated in one, so it really is a moot point for Carlton.

 

[Worm4]

I guess a team has got to be good enough to get to a Grand Final to be defeated in one, so it really is a moot point for Carlton.

Pies have been extremely lucky to avoid us given your record of 1 from 6

 

[Arr0w]

Yeah, yeah, yeah...

You guys said that same thing after 2021....

'But it will be different this time...'

Did you predict Pies would finish above Demons and us that year

Wowee

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Offer still stands, happy to discuss footy, but troll or play the poster and I'll respond in kind

Same here, happy to discuss footy, but troll or play the poster and I'll respond in kind

Over to you!

 

[Aphrodite]

Mediocre clubs like Carlton and its supporter base cheers on mediocre results like a first week finals win.


I dunno about you but i remember winning the last match of the season not some game in first week of finals. OF course you need to win that first week of finals but as the saying goes, if you ain’t first, your last

Talk about mediocre, you should be spending your time in this troll thread

Essendon are now the one to watch out for - They can win the premiership

Whole list seems a bit odd to me. We haven't beaten the cats in years, St Kilda at Marvel isn't automatic for anyone Yeah with teams like Freo, St Kilda etc you never know what you're gonna get. A 10 goal win or loss wouldn't surprise me much.

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Fadge]

Pies have been extremely lucky to avoid us given your record of 1 from 6

Yeah, not sure 'luck' comes into it when it comes to avoiding Carlton in Grand Finals in the modern era.

 

[Arr0w]

Same here, happy to discuss footy, but troll or play the poster and I'll respond in kind

Over to you!

Do you think you will beat the Suns ?

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

I guess a team has got to be good enough to get to a Grand Final to be defeated in one, so it really is a moot point for Carlton.

We'll all be delighted to see Carlton in this year's grand final hopefully.

It's just that you Pies supporters make this big song and dance about grand final appearance, whilst simultaneously ignoring your appalling record at producing the goods in grand finals.

You ignore things like being the only club to lose a grand final to St Kilda for example.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Do you think you will beat the Suns ?

These days... I expect to win every game by less than 10 points, regardless of opposition

Sticking with that until this run ends, been over 2 years now

 

[Juddernaut08]

Agree flags are the ultimate measure but Carlton supporters problem is you have to play with other measures to stay in the discussion.

For younger Carlon supporters, and here i am thinking the 50 year olds and younger, its pretty well a straight out conclusion. It has sucked to follow the Blues. It was an unfortunate choice. The 5 spoons in 20 something years. Something akin to the last couple of decades of Fitzroy or South before their demise except those 2 were not as proficient at picking up spoons even in their death throes. Supporting an irrelevent club has demoralised the under 50 baggars.

For the older types they have something to lean back on. Like an old couch with pointy springs sticking into your bum its become less and less comfortable. The wasted decades of support have left most old baggar mates of mine shells of their once arrogant selves.

Face it, even a Pie like me , born in 1960, wouldnt dream of swapping the ride Pie supporters have had compared to the Blues over my lifetime. For a lot of time i was envious of your ride but thats long gone.

Equal on flags yes but give me contention and relevency over becoming hang dogs anyday. Perhaps the most beautiful thing has been the combined overflowing joy of Carlton becoming a Fitzroy/ South imitation while we remain the biggest team in the land. I love the karma bus

Can you read? This is about 2024. Look at the ladder. So far you're lower and have been for all but 1 week this year.

Go Blues!

 

[Corn Cobbers]

We'll all be delighted to see Carlton in this year's grand final hopefully.

It's just that you Pies supporters make this big song and dance about grand final appearance, whilst simultaneously ignoring your appalling record at producing the goods in grand finals.

Your ignore things like being the only club to lose a grand final to St Kilda for example.

We've finished top 20 times for 16 flags, so we've left 4 on the table imo, not appalling but could do better

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

We've finished top 20 times for 16 flags, so we've left 4 on the table imo, not appalling but could do better

The Pies have finished top of the ladder more times than any other club to be fair. Thankfully the season doesn't end at the conclusion of the home and away fixtures though!