Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[carlton_99]

You are seriously overrating Acres impact,

And I think you are underestimating his impact. It's an opinion we all have them. Anyway, now I am done - no point repeating everything again. Happy to agree to disagree

 

[Arr0w]

No, you said if you finish higher on the ladder you are better. We have finished higher on the ladder more times than you so by your metric we are the better club.

Thank you so much for conceding,
Collingwood the Greatest Club of them All.

Interesting clutch

 

[Arr0w]

I assume you must have been embarrassed by the piss poor Bagger pile on telling a poster to feck off and leave.

Show me who told a poster to feck off

 

[Arr0w]

Can't believe this Acres v Sidebottom debate is still going on

 

[Mr Meow]

And I think you are underestimating his impact. It's an opinion we all have them. Anyway, now I am done - no point repeating everything again. Happy to agree to disagree

"I have nothing to support my argument, please can we just agree it's about the vibe, he's a Blue boy and I reserve my right to irrationally overrate him".

Absolutely mate, we can end the discussion on that note if you like.

 

[Worm4]

The very point of Moneyball was winning, but as Moneyball has literally got "money" in the word people miss the point.

The very point of Moneyball was clubs with less money at their disposal competing against the richer clubs who had way more $$ at their disposal. Its like Fitzroy trying to compete against Collingwood pre AFL.
Move on already

 

[Mr Meow]

Just sitting here wondering when Meowbagger will ever figure out his presence around here consistently ends in back and forth petty insults and the thread being derailed every time he does so...

Save us the hassle Meowbagger and next time just don't come back

The thread operates without u just fine

Arr0w

 

[Arr0w]

"I have nothing to support my argument, please can we just agree it's about the vibe, he's a Blue boy and I reserve my right to irrationally overrate him".

Absolutely mate, we can end the discussion on that note if you like.

You mean you having the last word/dig

 

[Mr Meow]

Go away you child.

Arr0w

You even made a request for me to leave as well.

 

[Arr0w]

Arr0w

I don't see "feck off"

 

[Mr Meow]

You mean you having the last word/dig

Looks like you just did that, too. Ironic.

 

[Mr Meow]

I don't see "feck off"

They're all tantrums requesting a poster leave because of their opinion. Doppleganger's point entirely stands.

 

[Arr0w]

Arr0w

You even made a request for me to leave as well.

I actually don't know why you are here, apart from wanting to argue with Carlton supporters only or maybe hoping Tigers supporters enter the room so you can argue with them

 

[Arr0w]

They're all tantrums requesting a poster leave because of their opinion. Doppleganger's point entirely stands.

Probably because you are a troll feigning being unbias

 

[Mr Meow]

I actually don't know why you are here, apart from wanting to argue with Carlton supporters only or maybe hoping Tigers supporters enter the room so you can argue with them

If you are unsure why I'm here, feel free not to engage with me so I can deal in civil discussion with objective posters, or converse with irrational posters to reveal the flaws in their arguments.

 

[Mr Meow]

Probably because you are a troll feigning being unbias

Show where any of my football related arguments in this thread are explained by bias rather than being genuine opinions, supported by statistics or logic.

If I said McStay has been a better forward than Curnow over his career because he has a "Mc" in his name, that would be a suitable example.

I'm offering carlton_99 the same opportunity.

 

[doppleganger]

They're all tantrums requesting a poster leave because of their opinion. Doppleganger's point entirely stands.

A woeful pile on.

How dare a poster challenge a Carlton opinion.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Interesting clutch

No simple, you make the statement that team that finishes higher is better. Collingwood have finished higher on the ladder than Carlton many more times. This means by YOUR metrics, Collingwood over history is a significantly greater club than Carlton. Thank you for the admission.

 

[Arr0w]

If you are unsure why I'm here, feel free not to engage with me so I can deal in civil discussion with objective posters, or converse with irrational posters to reveal the flaws in their arguments.

You forgot to add Carlton posters only

You have had plenty of opportunity to call out Pie supporters for their so called deflections and trolling, masked as analysis, but you're merely a sycophant

At least those handful of Pie supporters outed themselves as trolls some time ago, you'd rather continue the pantomime

I hope you hang around now, I need more laughter

 

[Mr Meow]

A woeful pile on.

How dare a poster challenge a Carlton opinion.

Arr0w has no way of verifying the obscured word was "feck" or anything close to it. Unfortunately he's got us there.

 

[Arr0w]

No simple, you make the statement that team that finishes higher is better. Collingwood have finished higher on the ladder than Carlton many more times. This means by YOUR metrics, Collingwood over history is a significantly greater club than Carlton. Thank you for the admission.

I'm happy to have seen 8 flags to 3, you can clutch onto whatever you want

 

[Mr Meow]

No simple, you make the statement that team that finishes higher is better. Collingwood have finished higher on the ladder than Carlton many more times. This means by YOUR metrics, Collingwood over history is a significantly greater club than Carlton. Thank you for the admission.

Occasionally if you checkmate someone of ill temperament, they will refuse to acknowledge defeat and instead throw the board in a fit of rage.

We've seen a bit of that over the last 24 hours.

 

[carlton_99]

Show where any of my football related arguments in this thread are explained by bias rather than being genuine opinions, supported by statistics or logic.

If I said McStay has been a better forward than Curnow over his career because he has a "Mc" in his name, that would be a suitable example.

I'm offering carlton_99 the same opportunity.

I spoke about Acres' ability to get back and help the defence out especially aerially being something Sidebottom can't replicate. This is the reason why I think the drop off would be significant because Carlton relies on it at a lot. The statistics you provided were defensive rebounds and tackles which had nothing to do with what I see as the major difference between the two players.

On the rankings, looking at just players that spend the majority of time on the wing is my choice. You don't have to follow it. Interesting to see other people in the media (https://archive.sen.com.au/news/202...-names-his-top-afl-wingers-of-2023/index.html) who have been asked the same question decided to also not include the likes of McLuggage etc in their rankings as they don't play the majority of their football in that position.

 

[Arr0w]

Show where any of my football related arguments in this thread are explained by bias rather than being genuine opinions, supported by statistics or logic.

If I said McStay has been a better forward than Curnow over his career because he has a "Mc" in his name, that would be a suitable example.

I'm offering carlton_99 the same opportunity.

No Tigers supporters online?

 

[Mr Meow]

You forgot to add Carlton posters only

You have had plenty of opportunity to call out Pie supporters for their so called deflections and trolling, masked as analysis, but you're merely a sycophant

At least those handful of Pie supporters outed themselves as trolls some time ago, you'd rather continue the pantomime

I hope you hang around now, I need more laughter

I was actually considering giving you guys a break. If I am indeed in good company, of course I'm happy to stay.

Thanks for showing kindness. We've finally got a welcoming Blue in here.