Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[Chronz]

I'm still waiting for an explanation on Bianco being the next Pendlebury

They were very optimistic supporters. Never saw much in him myself though, Pendles level is laughable.

 

[Fadge]

In 2023 you did. In 2024 even with a full season from Squibs you couldn't make the 8.

Who are the Pies depth players that would come in and fill the void? You can't honestly say Fin Macrae without being laughed out of here.

Pies have improved their list in the off season, by adding Houston, Perryman, and to a lesser extent Membrey (whom we've been informed in this thread that our coach believes he's in our 'best 22'), after what was clearly a down year based on our 2022/23 performances.

I expect the Pies will contend for the premiership. Again.

And will be far better than Carlton. Again.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

They were very optimistic supporters. Never saw much in him myself though, Pendles level is laughable.

What are your thoughts on Fin Macrae? He getting a game in Carltons midfield?

 

[Chronz]

Collingwood would manage without Daicos far better than Carlton would manage without Cripps. Or Weitering, Or De Koning. Or Curnow.

Collingwood won a Qualifying Final without Daicos.

Carlton got humiliated in an Elimination Final without Curnow.

Cripps is the heart and soul that holds the entire team club together, without him they are lost at sea.

 

[Chronz]

What are your thoughts on Fin Macrae? He getting a game in Carltons midfield?

Definitely not.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Pies have improved their list in the off season, by adding Houston, Perryman, and to a lesser extent Membrey (whom we've been informed in this thread that our coach believes he's in our 'best 22'), after what was clearly a down year based on our 2022/23 performances.

I expect the Pies will contend for the premiership. Again.

And will be far better than Carlton. Again.

You think Collingwood will contend if they're missing Nick Daicos?

 

[Fadge]

You think Collingwood will contend if they're missing Nick Daicos?

Is he not playing at Collingwood in 2025?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Is he not playing at Collingwood in 2025?

I'm just wondering about this mythical depth thats apparently so much better than Carltons? You should have no problem covering for Nicky in 2025 if you're so confident in them?

I'm not delusional enough to think either team could cover losing their best midfielder for the year... But then again I never got lobotomized

 

[Fadge]

I'm just wondering about this mythical depth thats apparently so much better than Carltons? You should have no problem covering for Nicky in 2025 if you're so confident in them?

I'm not delusional enough to think either team could cover losing their best midfielder for the year... But then again I never got lobotomized

Oh.

I get it now.

You saw my post just now about predicting Collingwood to contend in 2025, and recalled some discussion about Daicos from the other day, and put the words 'Collingwood', 'contend' and 'Daicos' together to form the conclusion:

'You're deluded if you think Collingwood will contend if Daicos misses the season'.

Because that's how a pickled Carlton supporter's brain works.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Oh.

I get it now.

You saw my post just now about predicting Collingwood to contend in 2025, and recalled some discussion about Daicos from the other day, and put the words 'Collingwood', 'contend' and 'Daicos' together to form the conclusion:

'You're deluded if you think Collingwood will contend if Daicos misses the season'.

Because that's how a pickled Carlton supporter's brain works.

You really are one special kenty Fudge

 

[carlton_99]

If Macrae, Long and McInnes were at Carlton, they'd be getting a game every week.

You talking VFL, right?

 

[Arr0w]

Can you now do that for:

1. The last 2 years;
2. The last 15 years;
3. The last 35 years;
4. Since the beginning of the competition.

Thanks in advance.

Can you now do that for the last 50, 55, 60, 65, 70, 75, 80 years

Thanks in advance

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

You talking VFL, right?

No he reckons Macrae and Long would get a game ahead of Cerra and Jagga and McInnes ahead of McKay or Curnow

 

[Arr0w]

No he reckons Macrae and Long would get a game ahead of Cerra and Jagga and McInnes ahead of McKay or Curnow

It would be like stating Wilson would get a game ahead of Quaynor

Bizarre

 

[Fadge]

Can you now do that for the last 50, 55, 60, 65, 70, 75, 80 years

Thanks in advance

Oh.

So Carlton have a 30 year window within the nearly 130 year history of the game when they won more flags than Collingwood?

That's cute.

But that means Collingwood have been far superior to Carlton across the other 100 years.

Including the most recent quarter of a century, where Collingwood have continued to be a powerhouse of the competition, whereas Carlton have fluctuated between being mediocre and completely shite.

 

[Fadge]

No he reckons Macrae and Long would get a game ahead of Cerra and Jagga and McInnes ahead of McKay or Curnow

Yeah, except I never said any of that.

Liar.

Also, you might want to see how Jagga performs at the level before saying he's better than any other current listed AFL player.

But it is interesting that you guys haven't pushed back on my positove comments about Jagga - is this one of the rare occasions that my assessment is accurate?

 

[Arr0w]

Oh.

So Carlton have a 30 year window within the nearly 130 year history of the game when they won more flags than Collingwood?

That's cute.

But that means Collingwood have been far superior to Carlton across the other 100 years.

Including the most recent quarter of a century, where Collingwood have continued to be a powerhouse of the competition, whereas Carlton have fluctuated between being mediocre and completely shite.

8 to 3 in 60 odd, 10 to 5 since WWII

Nah, powderpuffs, not powerhouse

 

[Fadge]

8 to 3 in 60 odd, 10 to 5 since WWII

Nah, powderpuffs, not powerhouse

Oh no.

Guess what?

I've just identified that it was just a 20 year period that Carlton outperformed Collingwood - 1968 to 1987.

So for OVER 100 years of the history of the Competition, Collingwood have owned Carlton.

Oh my.

 

[King Tut]

8 to 3 in 60 odd, 10 to 5 since WWII

Nah, powderpuffs, not powerhouse

AFL Tables - Team Win-Loss Records

Collingwood. The winningest club to have ever won.

Carlton a distant second but with Essendon breathing down your neck.

 

[Arr0w]

Oh no.

Guess what?

I've just identified that it was just a 20 year period that Carlton outperformed Collingwood - 1968 to 1987.

So for OVER 100 years of the history of the Competition, Collingwood have owned Carlton.

Oh my.

10 to 5 since WWII

If the Pies were a powerhouse, why are we still level on flags and why did it take 40 odd years to draw level?

Powderpuffs

 

[King Tut]

Oh no.

Guess what?

I've just identified that it was just a 20 year period that Carlton outperformed Collingwood - 1968 to 1987.

So for OVER 100 years of the history of the Competition, Collingwood have owned Carlton.

Oh my.

What about the most recent 20 year period Fadge?

How does Coll vs Carl records stack up from 2004-24?

By my count we’ve competed in 14 finals series to 6. We’ve won 18 finals to 4. Played in 6 GF’s to zero and won 2 premierships to nada. Carlton do have us covered with 4 wooden spoons to zero to the Pies.

That’s gotta hurt the Blue ballers.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Yeah, except I never said any of that.

Liar.

Also, you might want to see how Jagga performs at the level before saying he's better than any other current listed AFL player.

But it is interesting that you guys haven't pushed back on my positove comments about Jagga - is this one of the rare occasions that my assessment is accurate?

If Macrae, Long and McInnes were at Carlton, they'd be getting a game every week.

Huh????

Who are they playing ahead of them Fudge? If they'd be getting a game every week?

 

[Fadge]

What about the most recent 20 year period Fadge?

How does Coll vs Carl records stack up from 2004-24?

By my count we’ve competed in 14 finals series to 6. We’ve won 18 finals to 4. Played in 6 GF’s to zero and won 2 premierships to nada. Carlton do have us covered with 4 wooden spoons to zero to the Pies.

That’s gotta hurt the Blue ballers.

Yep, spot on, King.

They're the key metrics.

We could add top 4 finishes, Owen 60 Elimination Finals, etc. But that's just rats and mice.

Collingwood a powerhouse.

Bloosers are Ubershizen.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Yep, spot on, King.

They're the key metrics.

We could add top 4 finishes, Owen 60 Elimination Finals, etc. But that's just rats and mice.

Collingwood a powerhouse.

Bloosers are Ubershizen.

Can you please address the above post. Who are Long, McInnes and Macrae displacing from Carltons side if they'd get a game every week?

You can't say injured players given you've disclosed it would be 'every week'.

 

[Cyclops]

Someone from the Pies side please just explain how the f*** Macrae or Long are better players than Kennedy or Cerra???

Anybody. Please!

It's the jumpers.

Also they have slicker moves on the dance floor, so they're better "players". Ned Long, on his way to steal your Bluebird.