Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[WalshistheGOAT]

Who? Oh the guys who failed to hold Collingwood to a losing score twice.

If you'd had Shulz and Houston this year you would've made the Grand Final.

If you traded out one of the Colmen you might get 3 decent players in return. Imagine that, a decent pressure forward, a running defender and a fast mid. You'd almost be balanced then.

Lmao u are absolutely clueless Schultz wouldn't have made any difference to our team this year

 

[Fadge]

Weitering Saad and... Newman, Docherty, McGovern...

See Corn Cobbers - I told you there was no room for a 27 year old dual All-Australian in the prime of his career in that backline.

Sheesh.....

 

[carlton_99]

Who? Oh the guys who failed to hold Collingwood to a losing score twice.

If you'd had Shulz and Houston this year you would've made the Grand Final.

If you traded out one of the Colmen you might get 3 decent players in return. Imagine that, a decent pressure forward, a running defender and a fast mid. You'd almost be balanced then.

My word I can't be reading this right

 

[Fadge]

My word I can't be reading this right

Good point.

Carlton need a lot more than Houston and Schultz if they're going to be a genuine premiership contender.

 

[Cyclops]

My word I can't be reading this right

Brother if you're asking for help reading from a Magpie you're in strife...

 

[carlton_99]

Brother if you're asking for help reading from a Magpie you're in strife...

Did I ask for help?

 

[carlton_99]

Good point.

Carlton need a lot more than Houston and Schultz if their going to be a genuine premiership contender.

Of course they do - keep telling yourself what you want to hear

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I would much rather pick 3 than Houston and I'd literally stop following the footy if we traded a first and second rounder for a spud like Schultz

 

[Fadge]

I would much rather pick 3 than Houston

Lucky for you, that's what Carlton have got.

Congratulations!

But I know which player will be more influential over the next 3 to 4 years whilst Carlton are in their 'finals contention' window....

 

[carlton_99]

Just to wrap up the last couple of days of advice from Pies fans...
1. Trade Cerra instead of Kennedy
2. Trade Curnow or McKay
3. Bring Schultz in to win a flag
4. Keep our "best" small forward Matt Owies

You lot must really hate Carlton

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Just to wrap up the last couple of days of advice from Pies fans...
1. Trade Cerra instead of Kennedy
2. Trade Curnow or McKay
3. Bring Schultz in to win a flag
4. Keep our "best" small forward Matt Owies

You lot must really hate Carlton

I think this somes up the brain rot afflicting said Pies fans. Completely clueless

 

[Fadge]

I think this somes up the brain rot afflicting said Pies fans. Completely clueless

Ironic

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Who on Collingwoods list outside of Squibcos do we think they would not be willing to trade for Curnow or McKay?

Given we're being told we should trade one of them

 

[Worm4]

How many do you have since you stopped rorting? 0.


That HBF would have made Carlton a top 4 side.

Premiership sides start with a great defence, and a balanced team.

Our age profile ain't well balanced, but your list is top heavy. So slow, 2 Coleman medallists, no small forwards (in the last 2 Grand finals how many goals did the small forwards kick?) and the backline is Wetering, Saad and....oh dear.

9 changes to the list hopefully addresses a few of the issues you think are problematic at Carlton.
Can't sit our hands and make 2 or 3 changes and think it's just gunna propel the team to top 4 . They are obviously going to target a few kids , and hope that the injuries aren't as catastrophic as last year. We all saw what they did to Geelong by smacking them by 11 goals with a healthy team, so the list isn't as bad as some of you pies supporters make out

 

[Worm4]

If you'd had Shulz and Houston this year you would've made the Grand Final.

Those 24 goals Schitz kicked for the year and the 61 % disposal efficiency clearly would have tipped the scales in Carltons favour.
NewsAlert- he is BOG average

 

[Fadge]

Those 24 goals Schitz kicked for the year and the 61 % disposal efficiency clearly would have tipped the scales in Carltons favour.
NewsAlert- he is BOG average

No comment on the forward pressure element to his game?

You know, the component Owies lacked which was the key reason your club traded him?

 

[Worm4]

Premiership sides start with a great defence, and a balanced team.
and the backline is Wetering, Saad and....oh dear.

That Carlton backline gave up a WHOPPING 9 points more than Collingwoods this year. Not bad for a 2 man defence

 

[Fadge]

9 changes to the list hopefully addresses a few of the issues you think are problematic at Carlton.
Can't sit our hands and make 2 or 3 changes and think it's just gunna propel the team to top 4 . They are obviously going to target a few kids , and hope that the injuries aren't as catastrophic as last year. We all saw what they did to Geelong by smacking them by 11 goals with a healthy team, so the list isn't as bad as some of you pies supporters make out

Change can definitely be positive, but not when the change weakens your list at the precise time your top 6 are in the prime of their careers.

Richmond beat Sydney in 2024 too.... maybe they're not as far away from it as we all think either?

 

[Worm4]

No comment on the forward pressure element to his game?

You know, the component Owies lacked which was the key reason your club traded him?

Coaches awards for little fatties don't really count.

 

[Worm4]

Change can definitely be positive, but not when the change weakens your list at the precise time your top 6 are in the prime of their careers.

It's not weakened. That's just an opinion you are running with.

 

[Fadge]

Coaches awards for little fatties don't really count.

Forget about the coaches award.

You were critically analysing his game, and you referenced goals and disposal efficiency.

Owies was your 3rd highest goalkicker with 33 - a pretty good return for any small forward (and the best at Carlton by a long way), but you traded him because of his lack of defensive pressure.

So I would have thought if Carlton supporters were critically analysing a small forwards performance, defensive pressure would be one of the first things they look at?

So.... what are your thoughts on Schultz's defensive pressure?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Forget about the coaches award.

You were critically analysing his game, and you referenced goals and disposal efficiency.

Owies was your 3rd highest goalkicker with 33 - a pretty good return for any small forward (and the best at Carlton by a long way), but you traded him because of his lack of defensive pressure.

So I would have thought if Carlton supporters were critically analysing a small forwards performance, defensive pressure would be one of the first things they look at?

So.... what are your thoughts on Schultz's defensive pressure?

No we traded him because of the role he plays in the team and lack of upside. We have more talented kids who fit our needs in the fwd line better that we need to bring through, Owies will not be missed.

 

[Worm4]

So.... what are your thoughts on Schultz's defensive pressure?

Good defensive pressure. Needs to hit the scoreboard more.

 

[carlton_99]

but you traded him because of his lack of defensive pressure.

He lacks more than just defensive pressure as has been said multiple times

 

[Corn Cobbers]

He lacks more than just defensive pressure as has been said multiple times

He doesn't lack "accuracy"

33.13 this year, 27.12 last year

Set shots within 40m you can put down your glasses, came in handy a few times