Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[adammania9]

You're predicting that Naicos will be half injured ?

Interesting given Daicos played a junk game in round 21 per Carlton supporters yet the midfield still got up

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Interesting given Daicos played a junk game in round 21 per Carlton supporters yet the midfield still got up

That the one Farcical Fly rigged the votes to get him his beloved coaches award? Ironically one of the awards Fudgey has spent years demeaning in regards to a Carlton player potentially winning it... Something about "Individual Awards" from memory.

 

[JustaBattler]

That the one Farcical Fly rigged the votes to get him his beloved coaches award? Ironically one of the awards Fudgey has spent years demeaning in regards to a Carlton player potentially winning it... Something about "Individual Awards" from memory.

Coaches would be the plural in the kidgoat's case it was 'a' coach's award.

 

[carlton_99]

Interesting given Daicos played a junk game in round 21 per Carlton supporters yet the midfield still got up

Who said "junk" game? Not being the the top handful players on the ground doesn't mean you were "junk".

 

[South of the Yarra]

There is genuine fear amongst Blues fans in this thread. The panic is evident.
The BLUESHAKES are coming.

 

[Worm4]

There is genuine fear amongst Blues fans in this thread. The panic is evident.
The BLUESHAKES are coming.

I checked the ladder after the trade period - no change
I might check it again after the draft when the pies claim draft victory over the Blues and our list is weakened and Collingwood claim unhidden gems

 

[South of the Yarra]

I checked the ladder after the trade period - no change
I might check it again after the draft when the pies claim draft victory over the Blues and our list is weakened and Collingwood claim unhidden gems

A clearly panicked response.

 

[JustaBattler]

No but I'm sure you guys have pencilled in two wins from your two home games against "Norf", with 15 goals to Charlie and 6 votes to Cripps

they will be tougher opposition than your mob thats for sure!

 

[Crankyhawk]

Oh boy.

Just saw the votes in this thread.

Not a lot of confidence in Carlton, who have been building and rebuilding for over two decades to get to where there are now, with their best 6 players (upon whom Carlton rely more than any other team in the competition relies on their best 6 players) in the absolute prime of their careers....

Oh well.

Ubershizens may have to call on The Cavalry to help with the vote tally!

Think it is hawks supporters hoping you are right death riding carlton

 

[Fadge]

That the one Farcical Fly rigged the votes to get him his beloved coaches award? Ironically one of the awards Fudgey has spent years demeaning in regards to a Carlton player potentially winning it... Something about "Individual Awards" from memory.

Coaches would be the plural in the kidgoat's case it was 'a' coach's award.

Who said "junk" game? Not being the the top handful players on the ground doesn't mean you were "junk".

You guys really need to let this go, you are embarrassing yourselves.

Carlton supporters and Voss are the only ones who didn't think Daicos was 'in the top handful of players' in that game, given he polled votes in basically every award we have visibility of, including receiving 2 votes in the Brownlow.

So if there was any bias from that game, it was AGAINST Daicos, by Voss excluding him from his votes.

 

[Fadge]

I checked the ladder after the trade period - no change
I might check it again after the draft when the pies claim draft victory over the Blues and our list is weakened and Collingwood claim unhidden gems

Did you check the fixture that enabled Carlton to get an elevated ladder position after round 24, as evidenced by their turning out of one of the most pathetic finals performances in the history of the game?

Had that changed?

 

[Fadge]

There is genuine fear amongst Blues fans in this thread. The panic is evident.
The BLUESHAKES are coming.

Indeed.

Have they arrived at the conclusion that after more than two decades of building and rebuilding, a June 2024 win against Geelong is as good as it's going to get for them?

 

[Worm4]

Did you check the fixture that enabled Carlton to get an elevated ladder position after round 24, as evidenced by their turning out of one of the most pathetic finals performances in the history of the game?

Had that changed?

Collingwood still with a premiership hangover after 9 months - that hasn't changed

 

[Worm4]

You guys really need to let this go, you are embarrassing yourselves.

Carlton supporters and Voss are the only ones who didn't think Daicos was 'in the top handful of players' in that game, given he polled votes in basically every award we have visibility of, including receiving 2 votes in the Brownlow.

So if there was any bias from that game, it was AGAINST Daicos, by Voss excluding him from his votes.

Talking about letting go , if you are going to reference the brownlow, then you really need to acknowledge the best player in the game currently - P Cripps. 12 best on grounds for 2024 ( 7 more best in grounds than 2023)
Has any player in the history of the game ever replicated , or got close, to what we just witnessed in relation to season dominance , individually ?

 

[Cyclops]

Talking about letting go , if you are going to reference the brownlow, then you really need to acknowledge the best player in the game currently - P Cripps. 12 best on grounds for 2024 ( 7 more best in grounds than 2023)
Has any player in the history of the game ever replicated , or got close, to what we just witnessed in relation to season dominance , individually ?

Cripps isn't in the top 50 players all time, probably not the top 100. Nor is his 2024 even in the running for the best season played.

Several Brisbane players had better seasons in their threepeat years, Aker, Voss, Johnson fir example.

The best ever 1980s Hawks had several players with several better seasons in their golden years.

Cripps is a fantastic player, well liked and admired. He won an individual award in a weird way but it was the right result. Don't start pumping him into something he ain't, you make him a laughing stock.

 

[Fadge]

Talking about letting go , if you are going to reference the brownlow, then you really need to acknowledge the best player in the game currently - P Cripps. 12 best on grounds for 2024 ( 7 more best in grounds than 2023)
Has any player in the history of the game ever replicated , or got close, to what we just witnessed in relation to season dominance , individually ?

Equal second best player for the season in the Fadgelow, with Neale, and behind Heeney. Daicos 4th.

So yes, there have been plenty better. Particularly when we also consider finals, which are kind of important...and particularly given he win neither the Players MVP and Coaches Award.

 

[Fadge]

you make him a laughing stock.

It's not about Cripps being the laughing stock, it's about these deluded Carlton posters being one.

Brownlow votes are the be all and end all, until we point out that Daicos was actually seen as the second best player on the ground by the umpires, in a game where Daicos allegedly wasn't in the best 5, according to Voss and his disciples.

But it was McRae who was playing favourites...

 

[South of the Yarra]

Collingwood still with a premiership hangover after 9 months - that hasn't changed

The great thing about Premiership hangovers is that it means you have won a Premiership. Something that is foreign to all Carlton supporters in the modern era.

 

[Worm4]

The great thing about Premiership hangovers is that it means you have won a Premiership. Something that is foreign to all Carlton supporters in the modern era.

Collingwood always have premiership hangovers- they haven't won consecutive flags in 90 odd years.

 

[Worm4]

Equal second best player for the season in the Fadgelow, with Neale, and behind Heeney. Daicos 4th.

So yes, there have been plenty better. Particularly when we also consider finals, which are kind of important...and particularly given he win neither the Players MVP and Coaches Award.

Opinions vary.
Not sure how a record amount of votes is totally ignored by you.

 

[Fadge]

Opinions vary.
Not sure how a record amount of votes is totally ignored by you.

How is it ignored?

Do you honestly believe Cripps' home and away season was 20% better than any other home and away season produced by any other player in the history of the game?

Whether Cripps had have polled 45 votes, or 20 votes in the 2024 Brownlow, his season was the same.

As per Daicos - I can confidently say that despite having polled more Brownlow votes in 2024 than any other player had through to 2023, his season was also nowhere near the best home and away season ever produced.

If you honestly believe Cripps' 2024 is up there with the best home and away seasons ever produced, go ahead and rank your top 10. Go.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

Three flags in sixty five years what a "superpower" Collingwood are indeed!

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

The great thing about Premiership hangovers is that it means you have won a Premiership. Something that is foreign to all Carlton supporters in the modern era.

Oh in my head the 90's will always be the modern era!

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Cripps isn't in the top 50 players all time, probably not the top 100. Nor is his 2024 even in the running for the best season played.

Several Brisbane players had better seasons in their threepeat years, Aker, Voss, Johnson fir example.

The best ever 1980s Hawks had several players with several better seasons in their golden years.

Cripps is a fantastic player, well liked and admired. He won an individual award in a weird way but it was the right result. Don't start pumping him into something he ain't, you make him a laughing stock.

Not in the top 50 or 100???

 

[Fadge]

Not in the top 50 or 100???

WalshistheGOAT's GOAT Rankings:
1. Sam Walsh
2. Cody Walker
3. Patrick Cripps
4. Alex Jesaulenko
5. Bruce Doull
6. Stephen Kernahan
7. Stephen Silvagni
8. Greg Williams
9. Carlton's Pick 4, 2024
10. Leigh Matthews