Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[Arr0w]

Yeah, how dare anyone review the draw 'after the fact' - that is, based on how teams actually performed across a season, as opposed to how they were predicted to perform.

Again showing you're the one who needs to 'Get Help'....

Before the draw "Carlton to finish 13th or lower"

After the draw "Carlton to finish 13th or lower"

End of H&A, "no no, it was the draw"

Another fail

Oh well

What next?

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Before the draw "Carlton to finish 13th or lower"

After the draw "Carlton to finish 13th or lower"

End of H&A, "no no, it was the draw"

Another fail

Oh well

What next?

Must say you are in fine bickering form today Arrow. If Bickering online becomes an Olympic sport you are representing Australia for sure.

 

[Arr0w]

Must say you are in fine bickering form today Arrow. If Bickering online becomes an Olympic sport you are representing Australia for sure.

I don't bicker, this is like a candy shop and everything is free

 

[Scritchyscroony]

They just haven't got the depth to survive a normal amount of injuries

Tipping Voss will go to Gather Round 1-3 and coaching for his job against the Eagles, might hang on until June

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Horse would be an excellent upgrade on Voss I reckon. Knows how to build teams that CONTEND.
So hopefully they stick fat with Voss.

 

[Fadge]

Before the draw "Carlton to finish 13th or lower"

After the draw "Carlton to finish 13th or lower"

End of H&A, "no no, it was the draw"

Another fail

Oh well

What next?

You responded to my comment about the importance of reviewing the difficulty of the draw AFTER we've seen how the teams have performed across a season, with this.

You really do need help. In the form of very basic education.

 

[Arr0w]

You responded to my comment about the importance of reviewing the difficulty of the draw AFTER we've seen how the teams have performed across a season, with this.

You really do need help. In the form of very basic education.

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[Worm4]

Yep.

A team that's allegedly had major issues with injury over the years let go two of their most reliable and durable players.

Interesting decision.

Shows how much you know about footy. Most reliable ? Cmon - did you even watch our games where the ball was getting taken out of our forward line and owies would forget to chase.
That's your definition of reliable...
FmD

 

[Fadge]

Shows how much you know about footy. Most reliable ? Cmon - did you even watch our games where the ball was getting taken out of our forward line and owies would forget to chase.
That's your definition of reliable...
FmD

So you've bagged Lachie Schultz all year because he didn't hit the scoreboard as regularly as we'd have liked, and when he was awarded Collingwood's 'Best Defensive Pressure Player', you labelled it a Coaches Charity Award.

But you have a player who kicked 33 goals, but he's no good because he didn't apply enough defensive pressure?

More hypocrisy on show.

 

[Arr0w]

So you've bagged Lachie Schultz all year because he didn't hit the scoreboard as regularly as we'd have liked, and when he was awarded Collingwood's 'Best Defensive Pressure Player', you labelled it a Coaches Charity Award.

But you have a player who kicked 33 goals, but he's no good because he didn't apply enough defensive pressure?

More hypocrisy on show.

Is this like trading away Ginivan?

 

[JustaBattler]

You responded to my comment about the importance of reviewing the difficulty of the draw AFTER we've seen how the teams have performed across a season, with this.

You really do need help. In the form of very basic education.

Fudgee lets have a bet...

 

[Worm4]

So you've bagged Lachie Schultz all year because he didn't hit the scoreboard as regularly as we'd have liked, and when he was awarded Collingwood's 'Best Defensive Pressure Player', you labelled it a Coaches Charity Award.

But you have a player who kicked 33 goals, but he's no good because he didn't apply enough defensive pressure?

More hypocrisy on show.

I will give you a tip - you're no more an expert on Carlton, than what I am with collingwood.
Probably why you keep predicting bottom 4 finish for us, and keep getting it wrong coz you got no idea

 

[Fadge]

Is this like trading away Ginivan?

Given your propensity to stalk me, you've probably seen some comments I've made about Ginnivan in other threads - I rate the kid very highly, and love to watch him.

There were clearly other issues that brought about his downfall at Collingwood and for some players a change of clubs is a win/win for everyone.

But I would definitely prefer to have him in Black and White than seeing him in Brown and Gold.

Sorry if that's not the answer you were hoping for, but we don't automatically bag our past players because they're at another club.

 

[Fadge]

I will give you a tip - you're no more an expert on Carlton, than what I am with collingwood.
Probably why you keep predicting bottom 4 finish for us, and keep getting it wrong coz you got no idea

So nothing about the hypocrisy I pointed out?

Unsurprising.

 

[Arr0w]

Given your propensity to stalk me, you've probably seen some comments I've made about Ginnivan in other threads - I rate the kid very highly, and love to watch him.

There were clearly other issues that brought about his downfall at Collingwood and for some players a change of clubs is a win/win for everyone.

But I would definitely prefer to have him in Black and White than seeing him in Brown and Gold.

Sorry if that's not the answer you were hoping for, but we don't automatically bag our past players because they're at another club.

You wish I'm stalking you, just calling out your contradictions

Clubs make decisions, believing it's for the betterment of the whole and while I would have preferred he was still list, cost versus output was a factor for him moving on

Its not going to have the massive impact you believe it will

 

[Worm4]

So nothing about the hypocrisy I pointed out?

Unsurprising.

Why would I bother - seriously .
You've proven you know absolutely SFA about Carlton. You think you do, but really, you don't.

 

[Fadge]

Why would I bother - seriously .
You've proven you know absolutely SFA about Carlton. You think you do, but really, you don't.

I know enough to know they haven't got the list to contend for a premiership, and have been correct about that the last 3 years when many others have been selecting them for top 4, Grand Finalists, Premiers, after being seduced by what is arguably the best top 6 dozen players on a list across the competition, without looking beyond and seeing what is clear to anyone who knows the depth of talent that is required to contend for a flag.

 

[Arr0w]

I know enough to know they haven't got the list to contend for a premiership, and have been correct about that the last 3 years when many others have been selecting them for top 4, Grand Finalists, Premiers, after being seduced by what is arguably the best top 6 dozen players on a list across the competition, without looking beyond and seeing what is clear to anyone who knows the depth of talent that is required to contend for a flag.

Who predicted us to be grand finalists/premiers?

 

[Fadge]

Who predicted us to be grand finalists/premiers?

'Many others', as per my post you quoted.

 

[Arr0w]

'Many others', as per my post you quoted.

So another claim lacking evidence

Play on

 

[Fadge]

So another claim lacking evidence

Play on

You really expect me to go through and list every media commentator and BigFooty poster who have picked Carlton as premiers or Grand Finalists over the past couple of seasons, to prove a point to you, when we all know they have been hyped up by many over that time?

 

[Worm4]

I know enough to know they haven't got the list to contend for a premiership, and have been correct about that the last 3 years when many others have been selecting them for top 4, Grand Finalists, Premiers, after being seduced by what is arguably the best top 6 dozen players on a list across the competition, without looking beyond and seeing what is clear to anyone who knows the depth of talent that is required to contend for a flag.

You picked us to finish 13th in 2024
15th in 2025. All selections confirmed after the fixture was released, you're a mile of knowing what Carlton might or might not do. My shaking 8 ball would make better predictions

 

[Arr0w]

You really expect me to go through and list every media commentator and BigFooty poster who have picked Carlton as premiers or Grand Finalists over the past couple of seasons, to prove a point to you, when we all know they have been hyped up by many over that time?

Ah the media, makes sense now

 

[Arr0w]

You picked us to finish 13th in 2024
15th in 2025. All selections confirmed after the fixture was released, you're a mile of knowing what Carlton might or might not do. My shaking 8 ball would make better predictions

2023 13th
2022 no more than 8 wins
2021 Pies will finish higher than Carlton and Demons (the premiers)

 

[Fadge]

You picked us to finish 13th in 2024
15th in 2025. All selections confirmed after the fixture was released, you're a mile of knowing what Carlton might or might not do. My shaking 8 ball would make better predictions

2023 13th
2022 no more than 8 wins
2021 Pies will finish higher than Carlton and Demons (the premiers)

I'm glad you both take so much notice of what I post.

I can't remember what either of you posted 30 minutes ago.

 

[Arr0w]

I'm glad you both take so much notice of what I post.

I can't remember what either of you posted 30 minutes ago.

Another poor deflection

Difference is, I remember, you know, vivid

While you think others place a wager they never did

We nearly got there fadge, a footy discussion without the personal jibes

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