Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[Fadge]

There's clearly an obvious reason why Mason Cox can't negotiate a similar contract to DeKoning - Cox is just no friggin good. Not a hard concept to grasp , really

Do you have an issue with my earlier post where I discussed the relative career output of Cox and De Koning?

If so, I'd like to hear your counter argument for it.

 

[Fadge]

That list has changed is composition.
Pies had a different list in 2024.
Lists actually change if you aren't aware. Not hard to work out actually

Tell me more about Collingwood's list peaking at a 12 win season in 2024, despite the fact they had an 18 win season and won the flag in 2023...

 

[Arr0w]

Do you have an issue with my earlier post where I discussed the relative career output of Cox and De Koning?

If so, I'd like to hear your counter argument for it.

No one has an issue with you guessing

 

[Corn Cobbers]

On what basis is Cox currently better than Walsh

"Look Marge... "

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[Worm4]

Do you have an issue with my earlier post where I discussed the relative career output of Cox and De Koning?

If so, I'd like to hear your counter argument for it.

I've asked you to discuss on many points where you refuse to engage over the duration of the thread, and now you are requesting further input to the discussion . As if...
All I will say is the numbers you put up on the head to head cox/dekoning - are they your forensic analysis numbers , or just guessing again ?

 

[Arr0w]

"Look Marge... "

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Do you have permission to post?

 

[Worm4]

Tell me more about Collingwood's list peaking at a 12 win season in 2024, despite the fact they had an 18 win season and won the flag in 2023...

Carlton had a 20 game peak season in 1995.

 

[Arr0w]

You really are some kind of special to think Cox is currently a better player than Walsh

 

[Fadge]

All I will say is the numbers you put up on the head to head cox/dekoning - are they your forensic analysis numbers , or just guessing again ?

Dispute them, if you have a different assessment?

 

[Fadge]

Carlton had a 20 game peak season in 1995.

With exactly 0 players who are on your 2024 list.

I'm not sure whether you're that dumb, or just trolling.

 

[Fadge]

PinnochiArr0w back to his lying and gaslighting ways...

 

[Worm4]

Dispute them, if you have a different assessment?

I don't bother disputing Fudged numbers

 

[Worm4]

With exactly 0 players who are on your 2024 list.

I'm not sure whether you're that dumb, or just trolling.

So collingwoods list peaks in 2010 coz Pendles was on that list. Oh boy

 

[Arr0w]

I don't bother disputing Fudged numbers

Don't you love a guess in an attempt to prove a point

 

[Worm4]

Don't you love a guess in an attempt to prove a point

Is that a question - you need to qualify ?

 

[Fadge]

So collingwoods list peaks in 2010 coz Pendles was on that list. Oh boy

The 'normal' person would conclude there has been an iteration or two of the list since then.

Isn't it great that a club can build a list to:
1. Peak to compete in 2 Grand Finals in 2002/03
2. Regenerate it to peak with our 2010/11 results
3. Regenerate it to again peak at premiership contention in 2018/19
4. Regenerate it to peak at premiership contention in 2022/23

And the story from 2025 onwards will play out...

 

[Arr0w]

PinnochiArr0w back to his lying and gaslighting ways...

"Just to simplify the discussion for the challenged Carlton supporters"

 

[Arr0w]

Is that a question - you need to qualify ?

Pretty standard

Make a claim, challenged, deflect, pull out random numbers

 

[Worm4]

Pretty standard

random numbers

I like to call them "fudged numbers" from this day moving forward

 

[Pistol Night]

I like to call them "fudged numbers" from this day moving forward

Your wit would give Dwayne Russell a stiffy Wormy

 

[Fadge]

I like to call them "fudged numbers" from this day moving forward

Go ahead and prove me wrong.

Should be easy to start with the best 10 games from Cox and De Koning's respective careers combined.

And if a player doesn't have a majority of the best 10/20/50 games over their careers, it's hard to make the case that their career output is superior...

 

[doppleganger]

Just wait for...

"BuT He WoN A PrEmIeRsHiP!" You can just predict the simple argument that is to come.

You do realise that Cox played his big finals games in years where the Pies didn't win a flag?

Pies posters correctly pointing out that performance in big finals is where players really make a name for themselves.

Cox has performed in big finals.

It is only Baggers who miss the point and think Pies fans only rate Cox because he has a premiership medal.

 

[Worm4]

You do realise that Cox played his big finals games in years where the Pies didn't win a flag?

Pies posters correctly pointing out that performance in big finals is where players really make a name for themselves.

Cox has performed in big finals.

It is only Baggers who miss the point and think Pies fans only rate Cox because he has a premiership medal.

What's your opinion on who is the better player out of the 2

 

[doppleganger]

What's your opinion on who is the better player out of the 2

Career output to date, Cox has the runs on the board.

But as Fudge noted, it is more than likely that as TDK probably has another 8-10 years of his best football ahead of him that TDK will end up better.

For 2025, I would prefer TDK.

 

[Arr0w]

Go ahead and prove me wrong.

Should be easy to start with the best 10 games from Cox and De Koning's respective careers combined.

And if a player doesn't have a majority of the best 10/20/50 games over their careers, it's hard to make the case that their career output is superior...

On what basis is Cox, currently a better player than Walsh