Society/Culture Why are young males now more right wing then older males?

[Episode IV]

Why are young males now more right wing then older males?​

I think most people are going to become older, eventually. It doesn't really matter what they were before they become older males.
Some men are left wing, then older males, some are accountants, and then older males. Some are footy players, then become older males upon retirement.

I don't really understand what this thread is supposed to be about... the inevitability of ageing, perhaps?

 

[RandB]

It reminds me of a Bill Maher monologue a little while back.

In a US context at least, I think there are some elements of truth amongst the puff humour, particularly the Tate stuff.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

The left went too far and pushed their agenda of race, gender, feminism, virtue signalling, cancel culture, labelling onto the next generation. They see what a lot of these people look like - coloured hair, beta, feminine low testosterone. They want to steer clear.

Young men easily find themselves struggling with mental health issues and they turn to self help, where the community is all right wing.

Chronic disease is at an all time high and you find out pretty quick pharma isn’t the answer here and turn natural health where the community is all right wing.

Much like how the left hates trump so much that they look beyond what’s happening in dem party because trump must lose at all costs. Look at the sorry state of America, they’d rather 4 more years of that than Trump. In the same way, young men look beyond all that shady things Trump has said and done because theyre sick of what woke left is preaching to them and how they want them to think.

 

[Seeds]

Why are young males now more right wing then older males?​

I think most people are going to become older, eventually. It doesn't really matter what they were before they become older males.
Some men are left wing, then older males, some are accountants, and then older males. Some are footy players, then become older males upon retirement.

I don't really understand what this thread is supposed to be about... the inevitability of ageing, perhaps?

people tend to become more conservative as they age.

And yet today younger males are more conservative then older males already. That is unique. It is not consistent with history.

How comservative will gen z males be when they are older? Mega comservative if historically trends are the norm.

 

[stax on the mull]

This question about young men turning to the right, and away from young women, was discussed in an interview on Planet America on Friday Nov 1.

Just before the 2nd last tab bar. Approx 36:45. (I think I've posted the video link so it's start about there)

 

[Gethelred]

Why are young males now more right wing then older males?​

I think most people are going to become older, eventually. It doesn't really matter what they were before they become older males.
Some men are left wing, then older males, some are accountants, and then older males. Some are footy players, then become older males upon retirement.

I don't really understand what this thread is supposed to be about... the inevitability of ageing, perhaps?

Seeds is trying to do what Grin did, and it isn't working.

 

[Gethelred]

people tend to become more conservative as they age.

Not these days, they don't.

And yet today younger males are more conservative then older males already. That is unique. It is not consistent with history.

How comservative will gen z males be when they are older? Mega comservative if historically trends are the norm.

Methinks their politics will have to loosen up as they get married or exposed to women, because the expectations of their brand of traditional masculinity are going to see them ostracised if they persist with them.

That, or we're going to see a spate of the messiest divorces ever in around 20ish years.

It's also a thing where some young men choose to reject polite society for a bit. Some will persist with it - countercultures exist for a reason - but most mature out of it, when the 'opt in' forces of capitalism and wider society make their marks on those boys.

 

[CD Xbow]

Mix of rallying against radical stupidity the left come up with and more likely Trump has been on all the popular podcasts in that demo, he's seen as a bit of a 'meme hero'.

He's on Rogan, Logan Paul, Theo, goes to UFC events. Can you think of more 'young men' shit than that?

I think people are also well and truly over everyone being a Nazi too.

You mean people seem to have forgotten the horrors of fascism and for some folks its even become cool and edgy. For Trump, he's found the ultimate grift.

 

[burge13]

You mean people seem to have forgotten the horrors of fascism and for some folks its even become cool and edgy. For Trump, he's found the ultimate grift.

You're proving my point

Everything you dont like is fascism and everyone you dont like is a Nazi.

You'll try and spin it into "falling for Trumps grift" too. The words fascism and nazi have lost all meaning to regular folk, just wildly overused buzzwords by inner city lefty freaks

 

[faible]

You're proving my point

Everything you dont like is fascism and everyone you dont like is a Nazi.

You'll try and spin it into "falling for Trumps grift" too. The words fascism and nazi have lost all meaning to regular folk, just wildly overused buzzwords by inner city lefty freaks

I’d argue it’s more that people don’t understand what fascist means and confuse that lack of knowledge with a lack of understanding that a significant amount of what Trump says, is fascist.

You seem to fall in to the ‘would vote for Trump for the lols’ category, so there’s at least some hope there you could learn more and change your views.

 

[burge13]

I’d argue it’s more that people don’t understand what fascist means and confuse that lack of knowledge with a lack of understanding that a significant amount of what Trump says, is fascist.

You seem to fall in to the ‘would vote for Trump for the lols’ category, so there’s at least some hope there you could learn more and change your views.

Been threw this 1000x, I dont vote. It's pointless, they are all corrupt
We are not American, my view "for lols" doesn't matter.

I think some of our more unhinged friends here will be ****ing hilarious next week if Trump wins though

 

[RedStarUncle]

people tend to become more conservative as they age.

And yet today younger males are more conservative then older males already. That is unique. It is not consistent with history.

How comservative will gen z males be when they are older? Mega comservative if historically trends are the norm.

It goes hand-in-hand with the fact than GenX and GenY have not trended towards conservatism as they age to the same extent that previous generations have.

The now middle-age-group is less conservative than ever, and it's making being right-wing more "rebellious" than ever. The right for the youth is an active rebellion against then norm, not an act of conservatism.

 

[RedStarUncle]

You're proving my point

Everything you dont like is fascism and everyone you dont like is a Nazi.

You'll try and spin it into "falling for Trumps grift" too. The words fascism and nazi have lost all meaning to regular folk, just wildly overused buzzwords by inner city lefty freaks

Not everything right is fascism and not everyone on the right is a Nazi. And no-one is claiming that... it's a useful deflection from the fact that (less importantly) there are neo-Nazis and they do support Trump, but (more importantly) Trump politics are genuinely and in a real way lined with fascist tendencies.



He and his supporters will rail against the claim and deflect from it and use the catch-cry that it's the hysteria of the left that labels everything that way... and they'll do that because for older generations, fascism is tinged with very unpopular and basically socially unacceptable connotations.


But for young male right-wingers...... I think you could just be honest and call it fascism and they wouldn't even care. Because it's just what they genuinely believe in. And to be honest... other than not agreeing with it personally... it should be acceptable to have those beliefs just like it should be acceptable to have communist or socialist or capitalist or conservative beliefs... with the one factor that needs to be preserved being the need for democracy to be valued above and coexistent with whatever beliefs you're holding.

I think the anti-democratic leanings and arguments are the greatest concerning aspect of modern politics.

 

[Seeds]

It goes hand-in-hand with the fact than GenX and GenY have not trended towards conservatism as they age to the same extent that previous generations have.

The now middle-age-group is less conservative than ever, and it's making being right-wing more "rebellious" than ever. The right for the youth is an active rebellion against then norm, not an act of conservatism.

Im not aware of that gen x and millenials have not trended towards conservatism. Have you seen any data on that?

 

[faible]

the ‘would vote for Trump for the lols’ category

Exhibit A

will be ****ing hilarious next week if Trump wins

 

[liz]

people tend to become more conservative as they age.

And yet today younger males are more conservative then older males already. That is unique. It is not consistent with history.

How comservative will gen z males be when they are older? Mega comservative if historically trends are the norm.

I think you’re conflating “conservative” with “right wing”.

Traditionally that has been the case. Maybe it still is for many who consider themselves on the right. But I don’t think younger males’ attraction to Trumpism has anything to do with conservatism. Indeed, it’s oft portrayed (including in this thread) as railing against the status quo. The attraction is something that demands change. It’s just a different kind of change to that which those I’m the traditional left want, and a kind of change that horrifies most of those on the traditional left.