Why can't Adelaide retain players?

[Wojcinski]

You played Rhys Stanley in a Prelim.
That is what's called CHECKMATE.

Jenkins would be your 2nd best forward, by a country mile.

Taylor, Menzel, Parfitt, Motlop, Hawkins and Cockatoo are better than Jenkins. Stanley was a backup forward/ruck. Cool story though.

 

[Wojcinski]

When did we get busted for making under the table payments?

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...21239f983?sv=6c83906bb65318d3ba8bf8ffca769cf9

"The Crows, Tippett, Trigg, Reid and Harper faced a total of 11 charges relating to a secret deal with Tippett in 2009.

The charges related to deals outside Tippett's contract to send him to a club of his choice at the end of 2012 and to pay Tippett $100,000 in each of the 2011 and 2012 seasons outside the salary cap.

The Crows were also charged with illegally arranging third-party deals for Tippett in 2011 and 2012.

All parties pleaded guilty to all charges."

 

[radiojake]

Yeah cause no club wanted Wines or Pittard. And Geelong didn’t send an entire touring party to lure Boak. It’s because Port have shit players and Adelaide have megastars.

So do you think Geelong offered Boak more money than Port did?

 

[Dank Academy]

I really don’t think the media influence players to move

The football world isn't that big; if you think that media personalities don't have any impact or interaction with managers, players, and clubs (and vice-versa), then you're being a bit naive. They absolutely set the tone and narrative...

 

[Sttew]

Have you been to Adelaide?

We jest on BF, but Adelaide is not a bad city. It is compact and comfortable but not too small. Good pubs.Good restaurants. Good beaches. Good shopping. Affordable housing. Great wineries within easy reach. Good climate. As the OP said it has to be more than the city

 

[DangerSloane]

Taylor, Menzel, Parfitt, Motlop, Hawkins and Cockatoo are better than Jenkins. Stanley was a backup forward/ruck. Cool story though.

Taylor is a rubbish forward. Some saying he should retire, I somewhat agree.
Menzel is the worst pressure forward in the comp and was dropped for your first final. Wont be at Geel next yr
Parfitt...who? Shown some talent but not in the top 100 forwards in the comp.
Motlop aint a Geelong player after this season.
Hawkins is the only one with a legitimate case.
Cockatoo surely would be a midfielder in the making.

Do you know what position Jenkins plays? Forward/ruck.
So Stanley would be a direct comparison.

 

[Sttew]

What wouldn't help in Adelaide is a headline in the Adelaide Advertiser last week, "Is third flag now a formality?" Perhaps expectations are way too high. I went to the Port v Geelong game at Adelaide Oval in 2016. Port lost and next morning on the radio the so called experts dissected the game and pretty dismissed Port players as insipid and beyond help. I thought to myself, "It was just a H&A game"

 

[Wojcinski]

Taylor is a rubbish forward. Some saying he should retire, I somewhat agree.
Menzel is the worst pressure forward in the comp and was dropped for your first final
Parfitt...who? Shown some talent but not in the top 100 forwards in the comp.
Motlop aint a Geelong player after this season.
Hawkins is the only one with a legitimate case.
Cockatoo surely would be a midfielder in the making.

Do you know what position Jenkins plays? Forward/ruck.
So Stanley would be a direct comparison.

And they're both shit. Think what you want, we're obviously not going to agree.

 

[DangerSloane]

What wouldn't help in Adelaide is a headline in the Adelaide Advertiser last week, "Is third flag now a formality?" Perhaps expectations are way too high. I went to the Port v Geelong game at Adelaide Oval in 2016. Port lost and next morning on the radio the so called experts dissected the game and pretty dismissed Port players as insipid and beyond help. I thought to myself, "It was just a H&A game"

Thats where a 2 team town has its drawbacks.
Sure you get great coverage, but you also get over the top emotional responses.

 

[DangerSloane]

And they're both shit. Think what you want, we're obviously not going to agree.

You're right we're not going to agree that Parfitt is a better player than Josh Jenkins.
That's because its just utter garbage.

 

[Wojcinski]

You're right we're not going to agree that Parfitt is a better player than Josh Jenkins.
That's because its just utter garbage.

In your opinion, in everyone else's opinion - not so much.

 

[DangerSloane]

In your opinion, in everyone else's opinion - not so much.

You seriously want a poll on the matter?

Which one do you want to lose?

1. Would Josh Jenkins walk up start for Geelong?
2 Is Brendon Parfitt (who?) better than Josh Jenkins?
3 Does nickCC have a brain in his head?

Just FYI Parfitt had 11 disposals 1 mark and 0 goals in the prelim. Jenkins had 17 touches, 7 marks and 4 goals.

 

[BTs Nana]

In your opinion, in everyone else's opinion - not so much.

I'm part of everyone else and I don't agree.

 

[BTs Nana]

2 Is Brendon Parfitt (who?) better than Josh Jenkins?
.

Parfitt would win that poll not because it's true but because JJ has an awful reputation on BF all thanks to the fact he has an awesome work rate (GF notwithstanding) which let him get a few out the back goals in the last couple of years.


You are flying the flag for the club magnificently with this idiot btw

 

[DangerSloane]

Parfitt would win that poll not because it's true but because JJ has an awful reputation on BF all thanks to the fact he has an awesome work rate (GF notwithstanding) which let him get a few out the back goals in the last couple of years.


You are flying the flag for the club magnificently with this idiot btw

Yeah people dont understand how hard he works and the fact that he's free in the goal square is due to his hard two way running and beating his opponent back.
But hey, its BF, its nuff central.

I'm still a Jenkins knocker at times. He needs to use his body and make a contest more when he's 1 on 2.

Parfitt lol

 

[Jakksynn]

So do you think Geelong offered Boak more money than Port did?

Didn’t Adelaide offer danger more money than Geelong to stay? He chose to go home for less money yeah? Clearly money isn’t the only issue. But again, you guys are right. Port only keep players because we don’t have any good ones and we pay them a gazillionty dollars

 

[pirate bob]

What wouldn't help in Adelaide is a headline in the Adelaide Advertiser last week, "Is third flag now a formality?" Perhaps expectations are way too high. I went to the Port v Geelong game at Adelaide Oval in 2016. Port lost and next morning on the radio the so called experts dissected the game and pretty dismissed Port players as insipid and beyond help. I thought to myself, "It was just a H&A game"

That is an interesting one. Published by the chief football writer, Michelangelo Rucci. A rabid Power supporter. Even the Power fans on their own board have been laughing about what an epic troll Rucci pulled with that, and numerous other articles later in the year.

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

We jest on BF, but Adelaide is not a bad city. It is compact and comfortable but not too small. Good pubs.Good restaurants. Good beaches. Good shopping. Affordable housing. Great wineries within easy reach. Good climate. As the OP said it has to be more than the city

 

[DangerSloane]

Didn’t Adelaide offer danger more money than Geelong to stay? He chose to go home for less money yeah? Clearly money isn’t the only issue. But again, you guys are right. Port only keep players because we don’t have any good ones and we pay them a gazillionty dollars

Its a fair point though. Have you really had any players that every club in the comp would be courting...like Dangerfield or Lever or Sloane?

 

[radiojake]

Didn’t Adelaide offer danger more money than Geelong to stay? He chose to go home for less money yeah? Clearly money isn’t the only issue. But again, you guys are right. Port only keep players because we don’t have any good ones and we pay them a gazillionty dollars

I haven't said anything in this thread about Port until that quote - I just think the Boak example isn't great because Port would have offered way more than Geelong

Danger would have made the short fall of Geelong's offer up with a Costa brown bag

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

What wouldn't help in Adelaide is a headline in the Adelaide Advertiser last week, "Is third flag now a formality?" Perhaps expectations are way too high. I went to the Port v Geelong game at Adelaide Oval in 2016. Port lost and next morning on the radio the so called experts dissected the game and pretty dismissed Port players as insipid and beyond help. I thought to myself, "It was just a H&A game"

I think you'll find that article was written by the Advertiser's chief football writer, Rooch, who hates the Crows with a passion (and who the Crows have all but locked out of inside info). He wrote that article to amp up the pressure on the Crows going into the GF.

 

[pirate bob]

Didn’t Adelaide offer danger more money than Geelong to stay? He chose to go home for less money yeah? Clearly money isn’t the only issue. But again, you guys are right. Port only keep players because we don’t have any good ones and we pay them a gazillionty dollars

It never reached that point. The trade for Dangerfield with Geelong was probably the best outcome for Adelaide. Adelaide indicated that they would match any offer Geelong made, and had room in the cap to pay it. If it turned into a free agency trade, Adelaide would've probably only received an end of round 1 draft pick as compensation.

 

[Harro59]

Adelaide is great but its not Melbourne. If you recruit a Vic metro lad and pry him away from mum and dad st the at of 18 or 19 then it gets difficult. Melbourne is all they have known and its hard for the. to adapt.

Port seem to look more Vic country these days I guess. It was mentioned earlier about the drafting from the Murrylands and Bendigo.

Adelaide have had success in this area as well. Look at the Crouches, dont even look like leaving at the moment.

 

[The Unforgiven]

We jest on BF, but Adelaide is not a bad city. It is compact and comfortable but not too small. Good pubs.Good restaurants. Good beaches. Good shopping. Affordable housing. Great wineries within easy reach. Good climate. As the OP said it has to be more than the city

I agree with your summation, having spent years living in Adelaide ('05-'13) and now back again temporarily. It's a great place to live if you can land a decent job and intend on starting a family.

For a young AFL player it's not the most exciting place to live. Is that reason enough to leave, though? I don't think so. It's not like there isn't beaches, wineries and other stuff that a major city won't offer. It's not literally stuck in the middle of nowhere.

I don't buy in to Adelaide's culture being an issue, either. Otherwise, I'd expect to see on-field performances suffer, which save for a bad day last Saturday, indicate a very strong culture.

I'm not exactly sure why Adelaide loses its players; in the case of Lever, he's going back home to earn a reported $750K p.a. four-year-deal. Adelaide don't have the salary cap to match and even if they did, he isn't worth that sort of coin anyway.

In most cases I think it's been the individuals as much as it has been about Adelaide. Bock was a tool and wanted to skip his home town of Adelaide - GC gave him the perfect out. Davis was offered something he couldn't refuse. Tippett is just a money hungry grub. Danger - he just wanted home no matter where he lived.

Lever? There's a lot more water to go under the bridge before we can speculate further with any accuracy.

 

[99cents]

I haven't said anything in this thread about Port until that quote - I just think the Boak example isn't great because Port would have offered way more than Geelong

Danger would have made the short fall of Geelong's offer up with a Costa brown bag

Crows the only team to have been caught paying outside cap- may happen elsewhere but unsubstantiated allegations are a case of "Balfour's pie in the eyes."