Vdubs
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On that basis you can downgrade all our flags because we didn't beat Hawthorn. Not Geelong's fault Hawks weren't good enough to get to face us.we will never know mate.
I reckon history is a good teacher. They're 3 wins from 4 attempts come September this last decade. Tough to dispute otherwise imo.
Circumstances again. When we played them in 08, we were really coming down. Injuries, fatigue, and a stubborn coach. And they peaked and played us brilliantly.
And we got a pretty decent win-loss record against them after that final, and by the time they started beating us again, we were on the slide.