Why the majority of Carlton Fans are Angry!!

[Military_man]

I will list these reasons in point form. Feel free to add to them.

1) The Carlton Football Club is a FOOTBALL club. It is not a church group. It is not a family group. It is a club that is in the business of winning football games for its members and supportes. It is not here to provide moral guidance. It is not here to make money above what is needed to finance the football operations. It is not here to be a pillar of society and to act as a social concience for all those involved with the club. It is here to WIN football games!!

2) Brendan Fevola embarrased himself on Brownlow night. He did not embarras the football club. He did not commit a criminal offence. He got drunk, carried on like a bit of an idiot but at the end of the day he did nothing that will see him hauled before the courts. Fev did what many people do on a weekend, and had one too many, and as a result would of woken up with a sore head in the morning. Thats where this should of ended.

3) The media's agenda this last week has been dispicable. There whole focus has been on blowing this so far out of proportion and in essense trying to force Carlton to make a media driven decision. For Carlton to succumb to the Herald Sun dribble is what irks us supporters most.

4) The joy this has given opposition supporters. Everyone can see plain as day this is going to have a detrimental affect on our onfield performance. Publicly those outside the club are saying Carlton must make a stand, enough is enough etc etc. Privatly they are just hoping to get there grubby little hands on the best goalkicker in the comp and are prepared to take this so called baggage that comes attatched. If Fevola is such a liability, why would any other club want to touch him. Is he all of s sudden a different person?? I'll tell you why.. He is a matchwinner, he is in the top couyple of forwards in the comp, and we are just punishing ourselves by making this stand. His onfield efforts have been nothing short of outstanding and thats why this club exists, for onfield performance!!!!!

5) Does anyone actually believe that having a character at a football club is such a bad thing. To those who have been involved at a football club let me ask you. Does what someone does on a weekend actually affect how you prepare yourself for training...for games..especially when that person is one of the most professional people when it comes to the football side of things you would want to find. On top of this people gravitate to him, he provides comaraderie. He provides that spark. He is the X factor that cant be replaced

6) To those saying this is Carlton FC and not Fevola FC. What a load of crap. Of course it is Carlton fc, we all know that. Our frustration stems from teh fact the prime function of Carlton ( i.e winning games ) has been put in 2nd place to satisfy the media, and other so called factions in society.

7) And finally we have been through 7 years of crap, and with the recruitment of Brock Mclean, the hopefully full season out of Warnock our premiership window officially opened next season. It has now been slammed shut!! We have let the agenda of the media, opposition supporters and social commentators dictate what is best for our onfield fortunes. Why the f@ck do we care what other teams think?? Carlton exists for its fans. The fans want success. We couldnt give a rats toss if Fev occasionally drinks too much on a weekend. That is his issue and as long as it doesnt affect his onfield performance ( which it hasnt ) then what does it matter as long as he is not doing anything totally illegal.

Over and out!

my sentiments exactly

 

[sherb]

I didnt bother reading the entire OP, there were so many inaccuracies. Point 4 was the only one that made any sense.

Very good.

 

[Murph_The_Smurf]

good work, go the personal insults!

keep having a nice day

he shot your argument down fast then i can shoot down a pot hahahahahaha you look like the biggest tool !!!

 

[Jezza U Beauty]

• Fev wasn't riding around with a gun-toting maniac while shooting at cop cars.
• Fev didn't withhold information from the police that could have prevented a mass murder occurring in the CBD.
• Fev never lied to his team-mates.
• Fev never lied to the board.
• Fev never made our president look like a tool to the media by lying to him.

How you could possibly compare Didak to Fevola boggles my bloody mind!

The two are directly comparable - they've both behaved poorly off-field and embarrassed their respective clubs and the AFL. The scale of the specific incidents may be different, but the result's the same.

Fev HAS lied to his team-mates and the board - he said he'd no longer gas up and embarrass himslef/the club. He HAS embarrassed Sticks.

Didak, however, has (so far) straightened up.

 

[invinciBlues]

Fev HAS lied to his team-mates and the board - he said he'd no longer gas up and embarrass himslef/the club. He HAS embarrassed Sticks.

No he hasn't. You've got a short, selective, and inaccurate memory. He said he wouldn't drink during the season.

 

[Murph_The_Smurf]

No he hasn't. You've got a short, selective, and inaccurate memory. He said he wouldn't drink during the season.

besides having a drink he had to get juddy in a headlock on national telly which is pretty flipping embarrassing being juddy think abt all the respected people that are there watching, its not what he did but how he did it which is the problem!!!!

 

[Military_man]

looks like you people that love the idea of fevola being traded are in the minority. watch the news later theres a big story on it about carlton members putting pressure on carlton to keep fevola. doesnt look good for you anti fevola campainers. FLOGS

 

[MBIB]

looks like you people that love the idea of fevola being traded are in the minority. watch the news later theres a big story on it about carlton members putting pressure on carlton to keep fevola. doesnt look good for you anti fevola campainers. FLOGS

Pardon me?
Because we don't share your so-called superior view we are flogs?

Good for you for putting pressure on, I'm sure it will do squat.

If he stays he stays and we'll barrack for him because of the JUMPER he wears.

 

[celtic_pride]

Why don't the pro-Fev trade nuffies realise it will be much harder to win a flag without Fev ???

 

[Blu_Outlaw]

besides having a drink he had to get juddy in a headlock on national telly which is pretty flipping embarrassing being juddy think abt all the respected people that are there watching, its not what he did but how he did it which is the problem!!!!

lol, awwwwww juddyyyyyyyyy was embarrassed, couldn't have been more embarrassing than that piss poor excuse of pressure points was.

 

[Military_man]

Pardon me?
Because we don't share your so-called superior view we are flogs?

Good for you for putting pressure on, I'm sure it will do squat.

If he stays he stays and we'll barrack for him because of the JUMPER he wears.

i sat here for the last couple days and watched you anti fevola ****wits carry on like a bunch of stuck up w***ers. you have all blown what he did out of proportion cause you are all to busy sucking each others dicks to see the real picture. **** sucking ****. i would truly laugh if he doesnt get traded . i got to say the majority of carlton supporters on here are fully fledges w***ers. two days of listening to the crap that comes out of your mouths. not one of you had something contructive to say about fevola or the people that shown concerned . heartless bastards at carlton. thank god i moved away from carlton before i turned into hypocrital gay arse loving bum bandit like you lot. ok i had me dummy spit. red card please haha

 

[sherb]

looks like you people that love the idea of fevola being traded are in the minority. watch the news later theres a big story on it about carlton members putting pressure on carlton to keep fevola. doesnt look good for you anti fevola campainers. FLOGS

Grow up.

i sat here for the last couple days and watched you anti fevola ****wits carry on like a bunch of stuck up w***ers. you have all blown what he did out of proportion cause you are all to busy sucking each others dicks to see the real picture. **** sucking ****. i would truly laugh if he doesnt get traded . i got to say the majority of carlton supporters on here are fully fledges w***ers. two days of listening to the crap that comes out of your mouths. not one of you had something contructive to say about fevola or the people that shown concerned . heartless bastards at carlton. thank god i moved away from carlton before i turned into hypocrital gay arse loving bum bandit like you lot. ok i had me dummy spit. red card please haha

Shut the door on the way out please.

Seriously, are you trying to match Fev in the immaturity stakes?

 

[sherb]

Why don't the pro-Fev trade nuffies realise it will be much harder to win a flag without Fev ???

Maybe the club will be far better off with multiple avenues to goal rather than being so one-dimensional.

It didn't seem to affect your former club's chances of winning a flag.

Who knows?

And fancy some supporting a decision made by people in the best position to do so.

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

I will list these reasons in point form. Feel free to add to them.

1) The Carlton Football Club is a FOOTBALL club. It is not a church group. It is not a family group. It is a club that is in the business of winning football games for its members and supportes. It is not here to provide moral guidance. It is not here to make money above what is needed to finance the football operations. It is not here to be a pillar of society and to act as a social concience for all those involved with the club. It is here to WIN football games!!

The fact you believe that shows how clueless you are on the issue.

Yes the CFC is a business and as a business those running it have a duty of care to protect its brand name from anything that will lower its value.

The value of the brand is in what it can attract in things such as sponsorship from major corporate partners.

Most businesses won't wish to associate themselves with with ****wits like Fevola or anyone seen to be is any way condoning his behaviour or trying to justify it.

2) Brendan Fevola embarrased himself on Brownlow night. He did not embarras the football club. He did not commit a criminal offence. He got drunk, carried on like a bit of an idiot but at the end of the day he did nothing that will see him hauled before the courts. Fev did what many people do on a weekend, and had one too many, and as a result would of woken up with a sore head in the morning. Thats where this should of ended.

Fev was as the Brownlow representing CFC.

He acted like total ****ing idiot while in that capacity.

3) The media's agenda this last week has been dispicable. There whole focus has been on blowing this so far out of proportion and in essense trying to force Carlton to make a media driven decision. For Carlton to succumb to the Herald Sun dribble is what irks us supporters most.

Don't blame the media for doing what they have done, they didn't create the situation and it's not their job to treat him with kid gloves or let it all die down quietly.

The club DIDN'T succumb to anything in the media.

They have shown strength of leadership in saying "you know what? we've had enough of you Fevola you ********".

Fevola as soon as he arrived at the club what getting into trouble.

10 years on the moron is still at it.

4) The joy this has given opposition supporters. Everyone can see plain as day this is going to have a detrimental affect on our onfield performance. Publicly those outside the club are saying Carlton must make a stand, enough is enough etc etc. Privatly they are just hoping to get there grubby little hands on the best goalkicker in the comp and are prepared to take this so called baggage that comes attatched. If Fevola is such a liability, why would any other club want to touch him. Is he all of s sudden a different person?? I'll tell you why.. He is a matchwinner, he is in the top couyple of forwards in the comp, and we are just punishing ourselves by making this stand. His onfield efforts have been nothing short of outstanding and thats why this club exists, for onfield performance!!!!!

Have you not noticed most clubs distancing themselves from him?

And you obviously missed all the insolent years of Fevola where he was a prize sook and lazy to boot.

To say his onfield efforts have been outstanding totally glosses over the years where he treated club and fans with disdain.

5) Does anyone actually believe that having a character at a football club is such a bad thing. To those who have been involved at a football club let me ask you. Does what someone does on a weekend actually affect how you prepare yourself for training...for games..especially when that person is one of the most professional people when it comes to the football side of things you would want to find. On top of this people gravitate to him, he provides comaraderie. He provides that spark. He is the X factor that cant be replaced

David Wirrpunda is a character.

Fevola is drunken knobhead.

Now we have Judd hopefully the young players gravitate towards him and stay right away from a person like Fevola.

6) To those saying this is Carlton FC and not Fevola FC. What a load of crap. Of course it is Carlton fc, we all know that. Our frustration stems from teh fact the prime function of Carlton ( i.e winning games ) has been put in 2nd place to satisfy the media, and other so called factions in society.

Stop talking crap about how our club is trying to appease the media.

We've had ten years of this arse clowns childish actions and we've had enough!

7) And finally we have been through 7 years of crap, and with the recruitment of Brock Mclean, the hopefully full season out of Warnock our premiership window officially opened next season. It has now been slammed shut!! We have let the agenda of the media, opposition supporters and social commentators dictate what is best for our onfield fortunes. Why the f@ck do we care what other teams think?? Carlton exists for its fans. The fans want success. We couldnt give a rats toss if Fev occasionally drinks too much on a weekend. That is his issue and as long as it doesnt affect his onfield performance ( which it hasnt ) then what does it matter as long as he is not doing anything totally illegal.

Over and out!

We've been through 10 years of Fev's crap.

And we'll continue on as a club long after Fev has gone.

And our flag window is open for another 6-8 years, long after Fev will be gone...

 

[The Cranium]

i sat here for the last couple days and watched you anti fevola ****wits carry on like a bunch of stuck up w***ers. you have all blown what he did out of proportion cause you are all to busy sucking each others dicks to see the real picture. **** sucking ****. i would truly laugh if he doesnt get traded . i got to say the majority of carlton supporters on here are fully fledges w***ers. two days of listening to the crap that comes out of your mouths. not one of you had something contructive to say about fevola or the people that shown concerned . heartless bastards at carlton. thank god i moved away from carlton before i turned into hypocrital gay arse loving bum bandit like you lot. ok i had me dummy spit. red card please haha

I'm sure the ADF appreciates your service...

 

[MBIB]

i sat here for the last couple days and watched you anti fevola ****wits carry on like a bunch of stuck up w***ers. you have all blown what he did out of proportion cause you are all to busy sucking each others dicks to see the real picture. **** sucking ****. i would truly laugh if he doesnt get traded . i got to say the majority of carlton supporters on here are fully fledges w***ers. two days of listening to the crap that comes out of your mouths. not one of you had something contructive to say about fevola or the people that shown concerned . heartless bastards at carlton. thank god i moved away from carlton before i turned into hypocrital gay arse loving bum bandit like you lot. ok i had me dummy spit. red card please haha

But you're still not joining right??

 

[thylacine60]

i sat here for the last couple days and watched you anti fevola ****wits carry on like a bunch of stuck up w***ers. you have all blown what he did out of proportion cause you are all to busy sucking each others dicks to see the real picture. **** sucking ****. i would truly laugh if he doesnt get traded . i got to say the majority of carlton supporters on here are fully fledges w***ers. two days of listening to the crap that comes out of your mouths. not one of you had something contructive to say about fevola or the people that shown concerned . heartless bastards at carlton. thank god i moved away from carlton before i turned into hypocrital gay arse loving bum bandit like you lot. ok i had me dummy spit. red card please haha

BF has audio? Thanks for telling me! Nice one, Splendini - bastard!

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

Why don't the pro-Fev trade nuffies realise it will be much harder to win a flag without Fev ???

Why don't you realise our premiership window of opportunity isn't now?

It's still 3-6 years away when the Gibbs and Murphy's of the team are 25+

By which time Fev will be long gone.

 

[Jonno_]

5) Does anyone actually believe that having a character at a football club is such a bad thing. To those who have been involved at a football club let me ask you. Does what someone does on a weekend actually affect how you prepare yourself for training...for games..especially when that person is one of the most professional people when it comes to the football side of things you would want to find. On top of this people gravitate to him, he provides comaraderie. He provides that spark. He is the X factor that cant be replaced

So how is Chris Johnson addicted to gambling? Don't be daft.

 

[ratten7]

You're a clown Blueboy, The majority of people i've spoken to are happy. At the end of the day , it has nothing to do with murdering someone. The Guy is a total Knob , who again and again has shown complete disregard for the Carlton Football club . Carlton will become a greater club for it. If they loose some loosers like yourself by not renewing their memberships then you/they would be doing Carlton a favour , We don't need people who applaud mediocrity and a shit culture.
Carlton I Salute You!

 

[Magpies 2009]

I will list these reasons in point form. Feel free to add to them.

1) The Carlton Football Club is a FOOTBALL club. It is not a church group. It is not a family group. It is a club that is in the business of winning football games for its members and supportes. It is not here to provide moral guidance. It is not here to make money above what is needed to finance the football operations. It is not here to be a pillar of society and to act as a social concience for all those involved with the club. It is here to WIN football games!!

2) Brendan Fevola embarrased himself on Brownlow night. He did not embarras the football club. He did not commit a criminal offence. He got drunk, carried on like a bit of an idiot but at the end of the day he did nothing that will see him hauled before the courts. Fev did what many people do on a weekend, and had one too many, and as a result would of woken up with a sore head in the morning. Thats where this should of ended.

3) The media's agenda this last week has been dispicable. There whole focus has been on blowing this so far out of proportion and in essense trying to force Carlton to make a media driven decision. For Carlton to succumb to the Herald Sun dribble is what irks us supporters most.

4) The joy this has given opposition supporters. Everyone can see plain as day this is going to have a detrimental affect on our onfield performance. Publicly those outside the club are saying Carlton must make a stand, enough is enough etc etc. Privatly they are just hoping to get there grubby little hands on the best goalkicker in the comp and are prepared to take this so called baggage that comes attatched. If Fevola is such a liability, why would any other club want to touch him. Is he all of s sudden a different person?? I'll tell you why.. He is a matchwinner, he is in the top couyple of forwards in the comp, and we are just punishing ourselves by making this stand. His onfield efforts have been nothing short of outstanding and thats why this club exists, for onfield performance!!!!!

5) Does anyone actually believe that having a character at a football club is such a bad thing. To those who have been involved at a football club let me ask you. Does what someone does on a weekend actually affect how you prepare yourself for training...for games..especially when that person is one of the most professional people when it comes to the football side of things you would want to find. On top of this people gravitate to him, he provides comaraderie. He provides that spark. He is the X factor that cant be replaced

6) To those saying this is Carlton FC and not Fevola FC. What a load of crap. Of course it is Carlton fc, we all know that. Our frustration stems from teh fact the prime function of Carlton ( i.e winning games ) has been put in 2nd place to satisfy the media, and other so called factions in society.

7) And finally we have been through 7 years of crap, and with the recruitment of Brock Mclean, the hopefully full season out of Warnock our premiership window officially opened next season. It has now been slammed shut!! We have let the agenda of the media, opposition supporters and social commentators dictate what is best for our onfield fortunes. Why the f@ck do we care what other teams think?? Carlton exists for its fans. The fans want success. We couldnt give a rats toss if Fev occasionally drinks too much on a weekend. That is his issue and as long as it doesnt affect his onfield performance ( which it hasnt ) then what does it matter as long as he is not doing anything totally illegal.

Over and out!

Welcome to our world. A day in the life of a Collingwood supporter.
The media has a lot to answer for............................................

 

[The Real Deal]

And now we hear Carlton may be willing to pay part of his salary at another club. This just keeps getting better. Next we'll hear that we're swapping him for Ben Reid and are paying Collingwood to have Fev kick 100? Heck, we've got him out of the club, he gets paid and we slide down the ladder? Seems like a good outcome doesn't it!

 

[Alpha1]

i sat here for the last couple days and watched you anti fevola ****wits carry on like a bunch of stuck up w***ers. you have all blown what he did out of proportion cause you are all to busy sucking each others dicks to see the real picture. **** sucking ****. i would truly laugh if he doesnt get traded . i got to say the majority of carlton supporters on here are fully fledges w***ers. two days of listening to the crap that comes out of your mouths. not one of you had something contructive to say about fevola or the people that shown concerned . heartless bastards at carlton. thank god i moved away from carlton before i turned into hypocrital gay arse loving bum bandit like you lot. ok i had me dummy spit. red card please haha

Mr. Man you are funny in a ****ed up kind of way, if you can't see the past bullshit he has gotten away with then you can't see past the tip of you nose.

 

[OldBlueFan]

To ratten7: Ummmm ... 1 player does not make a "culture". Are we saying that our young players are all stupid morons that can't see that Fev's example is NOT the one to follow?

To ASMS:

1. The fact that clubs are run as businesses and don't give a sh*t about grass roots supporters is something that makes those supporters angry on a regular basis. It seems that it's OK when that "business mentality" causes something you agree with?
2. Fev was at the Brownlow representing the CFC, but his "crimes" were committed at the after-party. He acted like a fool while in the employ of Channel 9 NOT the CFC.
3. Why can't we blame the media? Their habit of instructing all and sundry on what is "acceptable" behaviour is sanctimonius bullsh*t. And this point contradicts your previous point about the "brand". Who is making judgements about and pushing criticisms of the brand if not the media?
4. Fevola was a "tool" when he arrived at the club, 10 years on he's still a moron! But then you go on to say his "outstanding" performance this year glosses over previous misdemeanors. Well, what is it, has his approach improved or not? I would say there's no doubt whatsoever that his onfield performance/attitude has improved markedly in recent times. Thus proving he can take criticism on board and change his ways.
5. Fev sober, is a character and a loveable one, no-one denies that. Fev drunk is a major problem, no-one denies that. Seems there's a solution in there somewhere.
6. Appeasing the media ... See point 3
7. Our midfield polled almost as well as the Saints' in the Brownlow, suggesting that it's almost as good. If Kruezer/Waite/Setanta could rotate through the forward line, it could only be stronger with Fev there and would be the equal of any in the comp. With Jamison and Waite in the team, our backline was top 3 or 4. Considering that the team as a whole had room to improve on this year, I'd say that made our premiership window 2 - 3 years at worst.

To Sherb: The club can have multiple avenues to goal and still have Fev (the game against Collingwood where he kicked none ring a bell?). Any criticism of the coaching staff for not instilling a less Fevola-conscious edict in into the team? ... no? ... all Fev's fault that they think he's the go-to guy I s'pose?

To JUB: Comparing Fev to Didak in ANY way is just a complete joke. In terms of value to the team, ability or off-field behaviour. Fev is what people used to call a larrikin, Didak (if that list of charges is true) would have been charged if he wasn't a footballer. Fev on the other hand, is hounded BECAUSE he is a footballer and a damn good one.

As I've said elsewhere, the players need to come out and state categorically that Fev had lost their support and they in turn support the board's decision. I think that's the only way the split that they (the board) are causing can be healed (assuming of course that Fev goes).

And if he doesn't go, well, it'll be an interesting experience for all of you now-Fev-haters to be cheering him when he's back out there doing what he does best in the navy blue.

 

[Alpha1]

95% of Carlton members agree with the decision of the CFC.