Will another club actually be prepared to satisfy Carlton in a trade for Fev?

[Gunnar Longshanks]

All this talk about Carlton trading Fev.

What are the chances of another club actually coming to the party and making an offer that persuades the Blues to trade Fevola? They say they're putting him up for trade. But does that mean they're going to let him go for a bargain?

Carlton are going to want something good in return for Fev i.e. a first-rounder and player who walks into their best 22. Minimum.

But how many clubs will actually break the bank to get Fev, who will be 29 before the start of next season, is a head-case and has a massive salary?

Fev has reportedly nominated St Kilda and Collingwood as his preferred destinations. Are either of those clubs actually going to trade their first-rounder and a quality player for Fev?

If these clubs don't throw the kitchen sink at Carlton to get Fev, what happens? At what point does Carlton look at the offers and decide they're not up to scratch? At what point does Carlton decide that they don't want to trade Fev to a rival for a bargain? How can Carlton shoehorn Fev into going elsewhere?

Unless a club goes all out to get Fev, I can imagine Carlton putting out a statement to the effect of "we endeavoured to do a deal, but in the end it didn't come together. But we hope Brendan has learned his lesson and can now behave himself at Carlton."

Am I right? Or is Fev gawn? Will a club do enough to satisfy the Blues or will Carlton take the best offer going even if it isn't awesome?

It will be fascinating to see whether Carlton are fully committed to trading Fev, or if they're just fishing.

 

[Quazza]

we should just give him away?

Hell no. Either get market value back (highly unlikely) or keep him

 

[CUG81]

carlton should get a star player plus a good draft pick for him but they wont...and i reckon they know that. big scam...prove a point to the AFL and the players...with no intention of losing one of the best players in teh league.

 

[The Exorcist]

we should just give him away?

Hell no. Either get market value back (highly unlikely) or keep him

agree

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

we should just give him away?

Hell no. Either get market value back (highly unlikely) or keep him

Well, that's what I'm asking.

What do expect will be market value?

I don't reckon other clubs will move Heaven and Earth to get Fev. I don't reckon you'll be fielding astronomical offers for him. I can't see anyone offering up two first-rounders or something like that.

The question then is what Carlton thinks is a good enough offer to move him on. If the offers fall short of that threshold, can Carlton and Fev reconcile? Or has the horse bolted?

Fev's statement sounded like he's resigned to being elsewhere next season.

 

[Tiger08]

No way he's going anywhere. It's all crap. They're trying to scare him after seeing what happened to Lovett last year - "pretend to trade, doesn't go through, player gets wake up call". A team that thinks "their coming" with one forward trading that forward for disciplinary reasons? Rubbish. Michael Hurley's offence was much worse.

 

[dumb]

aside from the trade/player/salary thing there is the clubs own 'culture' to worry about. as you can see around the boards, taking him on would seem to alienate as many supporters as it excites. i imagine the public perception could be one of the accepting team as selling out their culture and team values, etc etc etc. which is pretty much where we are now.

i have no idea how much we really want to get rid of him. we could offload cheap if we really wanted him out.

 

[Sainters66]

Suggested trade. Fev for Milne and Schneider.....

 

[Sainters66]

No way he's going anywhere. It's all crap. They're trying to scare him after seeing what happened to Lovett last year - "pretend to trade, doesn't go through, player gets wake up call". A team that thinks "their coming" with one forward trading that forward for disciplinary reasons? Rubbish. Michael Hurley's offence was much worse.

It's not a pretend or bluff as it doesn't really work that way. They will probably not be able to do a deal given his salary and what they want for him. He will then end up staying and hopefully that will be a wake up call but it won't be intentional. Then again, anything could happen. Poor Fev.

Can understand Blues supporters being upset as he is an excitement machine and such a big part of going to see them play. I was shattered in 07 when the G train retired and in 95 when plugger left for the Swans. Having said that, in both cases we reached a grand final within two years so it's strange how it can work out. Hopefully it all works out either way.

 

[Dooky]

Suggested trade. Fev for Milne and Schneider.....

If by Milne you mean Riedwoldt and Schenider you mean Sam Fisher then yeh I don't see why not....

 

[lukep_86]

Suggested trade. Fev for Milne and Schneider.....

that's not a good deal, we should give you waite as well clown

 

[Herfooty]

I think that Carlton wont trade him, they would want a heap for a player as good as Fev and which clubs can afford his wages AND give the Blues picks/players that will go some way in replacing him?

 

[Kaladin Stormblessed]

Unless a club goes all out to get Fev, I can imagine Carlton putting out a statement to the effect of "we endeavoured to do a deal, but in the end it didn't come together. But we hope Brendan has learned his lesson and can now behave himself at Carlton."

That's exactly what's gonna happen.

Fev's going nowhere.

 

[Juddys_navy_blues]

Suggested trade. Fev for Milne and Schneider.....

Yeah sure, just throw in Goddard and Kosi and you have got a deal.

 

[The_Eagles]

Collingwood could afford imo to offload Davis or Didak + first round pick (with Medhurst as a sweetener)

 

[parrot]

All this talk about Carlton trading Fev.

What are the chances of another club actually coming to the party and making an offer that persuades the Blues to trade Fevola? They say they're putting him up for trade. But does that mean they're going to let him go for a bargain?

Carlton are going to want something good in return for Fev i.e. a first-rounder and player who walks into their best 22. Minimum.

But how many clubs will actually break the bank to get Fev, who will be 29 before the start of next season, is a head-case and has a massive salary?...

I don't think the salary's an issue because Fev (not Carlton) can agree to change the contract to a more accommodating wage in order to facilitate the trade. Unfortunately, the Blues are very serious about trading Fev. When they say something, they mean it. But they didn't say he will definitely be traded, but they'll be trying hard to get a deal. I hope it all falls through and he stays though.

 

[outabounds]

Look, i reckon we can go around in circles and speculate, but nobody is going to offer up anything significant for Fev. The guy is a F@#%wit and only causes trouble. I would be very surprised if he ended up anywhere else.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Look, i reckon we can go around in circles and speculate, but nobody is going to offer up anything significant for Fev. The guy is a F@#%wit and only causes trouble. I would be very surprised if he ended up anywhere else.

What do you reckon is the bare minimum?

What do you reckon would be just enough for Carlton to say, "well, it's not ideal, but we'll do this deal just so we can move him on"?

What if the Bulldogs offered picks 15, 31 and Everitt?

Would that cut it? Or would the Blues rather keep Fev than do that deal?

 

[aaronm46]

I doubt there would be anyone that will be willing to make an offer that would attract Carlton

 

[The Coach]

CFC is not a soapie's scriptwriter - they clearly want him out so they will accept whatever they can get. This may be as little as someone willing to pay his full contract and throw in a player. His $700k (and Stevo's $?)can then be used to pay for other acquisitions during trade week. For this to work however these other acquisitions would have to be in the bag eg. Lake tells Bulldogs he is going to us (we tell him we will give him $500k) You would think some such scenario would be 'doable'.

It does not sound like much for Fev but if a team is going to trade picks for quality players during trade week then you have to have room in your salary cap for the difference between a quality players salary and what you would pay a draftee

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

I doubt there would be anyone that will be willing to make an offer that would attract Carlton

It all depends how keen Carlton are to trade him.

Are they thinking "screw Fev - we'd had enough - he's gawn - get what we can and move him on"?

Or are they thinking "let's hang him out there - if we get an awesome offer then we might trade him - otherwise, we'll just keep him and pretend this episode never occurred"?

I'm leaning towards the latter.

A lot of the reaction assumes Carlton are more committed to trading Fev than they've actually indicated. Am I missing something?

 

[Jeremias]

What do you reckon is the bare minimum?

What do you reckon would be just enough for Carlton to say, "well, it's not ideal, but we'll do this deal just so we can move him on"?

What if the Bulldogs offered picks 15, 31 and Everitt?

Would that cut it? Or would the Blues rather keep Fev than do that deal?

The absolute bare minimum should be a first round draft pick and an excellent young KPP (forward preferred but will take a defender).

Fevola, for all his misdemeanours, is an absolute genius on the football field.

We won't give him up lightly and if we don't get offers that suit us we will not trade.

We may be stupid but we aren't stupid enough to let him go for nothing or under what he is worth.

Either way I think we win out of this. We either get rid of him and suffer in the short term but probably gain in the long term (elongates a premiership window but delays its opening), or he stays and hopefully learns to pull his head in (not holding my breath) and performs on field which is what he is paid for at the end of the day.

 

[blues4flag]

CFC is not a soapie's scriptwriter - they clearly want him out so they will accept whatever they can get. This may be as little as someone willing to pay his full contract and throw in a player. His $700k (and Stevo's $?)can then be used to pay for other acquisitions during trade week. For this to work however these other acquisitions would have to be in the bag eg. Lake tells Bulldogs he is going to us (we tell him we will give him $500k) You would think some such scenario would be 'doable'.

Serious flaw in your logic. We won't get Lake without giving up something major in return - i.e. Fev. The club will most definitely not accept well under value for Fevola and nor should they.

It seems the longer this goes on the more indignant some supporters become about Fevola's actions of 10 days ago. It definitely does not warrant us giving up our most important player (at worst top 3) for next to nothing, after we were lauding him for his brilliant season prior to the event.

I'd be hesitant to accept anything less than a top 10 draft pick and a starting 22 player. Maybe a mid-teens pick (notoriously risky) with a talented youngster (1st round + Everitt) or an established star (Lake).

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

The absolute bare minimum should be a first round draft pick and an excellent young KPP (forward preferred but will take a defender).

Well, who's good enough?

The clubs most interested in Fev will be interested because they don't have a top-notch KPP on their list.

Fevola, for all his misdemeanours, is an absolute genius on the football field.

We won't give him up lightly and if we don't get offers that suit us we will not trade.

We may be stupid but we aren't stupid enough to let him go for nothing or under what he is worth.

It all comes back to how committed Carlton are to trading him.

Fev's statement gave the impression that there's no way back for him. Maybe that's reading too much into it, but his statement sounded like he's gawn.

 

[Jeremias]

Well, who's good enough

Depends who comes to the table.

Just to give you an example, if Sydney came to the table they should be telling them that the minimum is pick 6 and Jesse White.

It may seem steep but Fevola is no dud. He's a genuine superstar and will win you many a game off his own boot.

Sure, he's a moron. But he's a ****ing talented moron.

The clubs most interested in Fev will be interested because they don't have a top-notch KPP on their list.

It all comes back to how committed Carlton are to trading him.

Not sure about that one - I'd say the clubs most interested in Fev will be interested because they think he can make the difference between winning a premiership and falling short yet again.

I've got no doubt Carlton is serious but as I said, they are not complete morons. If the trade isn't good enough, he won't be going anywhere, and he'll continue kicking goals and winning games like we all know he can.