With the 10th Pick in the 2007 NAB AFL Draft, the AFC Select...

[fightingdreamer88]

Has anyone seen Patrick Dangerfield play? He sounds pretty good, the type of midfielder we need. 7th overall for 20m sprints. Wonder why we are off him?

14 – MELBOURNE – PATRICK DANGERFIELD

Geelong Falcons, VIC, Medium midfielder, April 5 1990, 186.9cm, 82.8kg

Melbourne will be closely monitoring the whereabouts of Jack Grimes, Lachlan Henderson and Ben McEvoy, although the trio looks set to be claimed before No.14. It will seriously consider Patrick Veszpremi here, but with Dangerfield now likely to be overlooked by Adelaide at No.10, expect Melbourne to pounce. Tony Notte may also be strongly considered, as he is unlikely to last until Melbourne's next pick at No.21. Dangerfield has come right into the top bracket and will not get past Geelong (No.17).

Bio: A dashing medium midfielder or defender who shows distinct ability to win the contested ball. He is a graduate of the AIS-AFL Academy. Ranked in the top three for both the 30m repeat sprints (23.96sec) and the vertical leap (73cm) at the 2007 NAB AFL Draft Camp and was also a top 10 ranked performer in the 20m sprint (2.92sec). From Anglesea FC.

Sounds like he has some weapons then. Aaaahhhh only one more sleep.

 

[Crow Envy]

13. Eagles – Jack Grimes.

Grimes lacks true class and can be wasteful by foot, certainly not damaging tending to give off little passes and floaters. More a sharer of the ball than someone who damages himself. That said he is a tireless competitor and hard worker with leadership skills. He stays involved and never quits. In a shallow draft that ferocity will attract attention and the Eagles could back themselves to knock the rough edges off him and get themselves a solid, if unspectacular centreman. I love that he always finds some way to contribute … a tackle, a chase, a goal, a spoil. He is never spectating

Ive read about Grimes disposal a few times, surely we dont want another midfielder with average disposal.

 

[SA_Stazza]

Get real Stazza

You name "Palmer, Ebert, Myers, Grant and Rance will almost certainly be gone by our first pick"

Add to them "Kreuzer, Masten, Cotchin & Morton".

That equals 9 players, so you're saying the 1st 9 picks are almost certainties?

That'd be a first in the draft's history, there's always some players drift, & some bolters.

Now for the question I asked Vic Crow

I listed a group of players who I reckon will be around the mark for picks 5 - 20, and then asked if Grimes would be taken before all of them

Now what the hell is wrong with that?

Taking pot shots at Port supporters is fun for you guys, but at least try and be sensible

Haha a bit touchy Assguardian? That record GF defeat has got you guys jumping all over the place!

I was being as realistic, sensible and congruent as I possibly could have been! And yes I can count, I knew exactly what pick those players and the 4 you mentioned would round out to. I firmly believe those 9 players should and will be taken as the first 9 in the draft, hence why I made that statement!

If I'm wrong tomorrow then I am wrong and I will apologise (however necessary) but based on the countless hours of research based not only on the quality of this draft pool, but also the interest shown by the clubs and their immediate needs.

 

[ams4crows]

most of the Brisbane board are saying they want Ebert so bad news for us! but hopefully by some miricle they let him slige and we pick him up! If he goes to brisbane 2 years later he'll be at the power for sure!

 

[Stiffy_18]

most of the Brisbane board are saying they want Ebert so bad news for us! but hopefully by some miricle they let him slige and we pick him up! If he goes to brisbane 2 years later he'll be at the power for sure!

He is a Bombers supporter but anyway, if we could get Thompson, no reason why we couldn't end up with Ebert. Name or no name

 

[MickyCrow]

most of the Brisbane board are saying they want Ebert so bad news for us! but hopefully by some miricle they let him slige and we pick him up! If he goes to brisbane 2 years later he'll be at the power for sure!

Fortunately it doesnt matter a toss what they want, only the recruiting staff, so hopefully they want someone different

 

[Blind Fred]

Has anyone seen Patrick Dangerfield play? He sounds pretty good, the type of midfielder we need. 7th overall for 20m sprints. Wonder why we are off him?

14 – MELBOURNE – PATRICK DANGERFIELD

Geelong Falcons, VIC, Medium midfielder, April 5 1990, 186.9cm, 82.8kg

Melbourne will be closely monitoring the whereabouts of Jack Grimes, Lachlan Henderson and Ben McEvoy, although the trio looks set to be claimed before No.14. It will seriously consider Patrick Veszpremi here, but with Dangerfield now likely to be overlooked by Adelaide at No.10, expect Melbourne to pounce. Tony Notte may also be strongly considered, as he is unlikely to last until Melbourne's next pick at No.21. Dangerfield has come right into the top bracket and will not get past Geelong (No.17).

Bio: A dashing medium midfielder or defender who shows distinct ability to win the contested ball. He is a graduate of the AIS-AFL Academy. Ranked in the top three for both the 30m repeat sprints (23.96sec) and the vertical leap (73cm) at the 2007 NAB AFL Draft Camp and was also a top 10 ranked performer in the 20m sprint (2.92sec). From Anglesea FC.

I'm a huge fan ... and I reckon he's a big shot for 10 especially if Myers and Ebert are gone. The only others I think could slip in at 10 are Selwood, Rance, Ward and may be Henderson. Unlike others here I'm not scared by Henderson .... he would have been checked out medically so if they pick him they will do so with confidence. But I still reckon it will be Ebert or Dangerfield. Nothing to do with pick No 10 but a contact at one of the TAC Clubs tells me the Crows have shown more than usual interest in a player who has not been mentioned much in phantoms. Can't wait for it all to unfold tomorrow!!

 

[Messiah]

Dangerfield

 

[Crow-mo]

13. Eagles – Jack Grimes.

Grimes lacks true class and can be wasteful by foot, certainly not damaging tending to give off little passes and floaters. More a sharer of the ball than someone who damages himself. That said he is a tireless competitor and hard worker with leadership skills. He stays involved and never quits. In a shallow draft that ferocity will attract attention and the Eagles could back themselves to knock the rough edges off him and get themselves a solid, if unspectacular centreman. I love that he always finds some way to contribute … a tackle, a chase, a goal, a spoil. He is never spectating

Ive read about Grimes disposal a few times, surely we dont want another midfielder with average disposal.

sounds like Kane Cornes. meh.

 

[Asgardian]

I would take Palmer and Ebert ahead of Grimes. I have not seen enough of Myers, but he sounds good and I could see myself wanting him over Grimes but can't say for sure. I would take Grimes at the Crows ahead of Rioli, Henderson, Grant, Gourdis, Rance and McEvoy. Different clubs are attracted to different types or have different needs, but from a Crows perspective that is my order.

Is Henderson's injury concerns the reason you'd let him slide a bit?

 

[SA_Stazza]

sounds like Kane Cornes. meh.

Actually more like your Mark Bickley/Nathan Van Berlo type only Grimes is your taller midfield/utility type at AFL level - he would bring as much ferocity and endeavour as these two have/do and a very solid understanding of the game. He would be perfectly coachable and undeterred by his own mistakes in match situations and in general along the way as he makes his mark in the AFL. The bonus is he could be used just as effectively at opposite ends of the ground, as a stopper in defence playing tall or small, and as a dangerous contributor up forward, able to push up and find (and create) space for his teammates and be effective on the scoreboard. Has the motor to run all day and would bring the best out of his teammates, continually encouraging/firing them up in the process. Grimes is a player every team needs - not the most polished disposal (can be fixed) but offers flexibility, grunt, a strong inside presence and a strong marking presence (height a big plus) when in space, relentless pressure and a great attitude - you would feel good going into war with him on your side. The sort of player I love

Having said that, I'm sticking by my boy Rioli, that's my tip for us at pick 10, regardless of what has previously been said about his attitude and poor form at interviews (how wrong Gerard Neesham was after interviewing a timid young Andrew McLeod). I SERIOUSLY believe we will regret it if we don't take him, the boy is something very special and it will come back to haunt us one day if we overlook him, mark my word. He could quite well turn out to be one of the greatest indigenous players of his time, and possibly one of the greatest to ever grace the game.. That's a huge call but I'm not at all scared to make it.

With Pick 10 in the NAB AFL National Draft, Adelaide select..

Cyril Rioli

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Try this comparison ....sorry for posting same in 2 threads:

Knights to remember: one club's bumper crop in the AFL
Emma Quayle | November 24, 2007
EDITED
WHEN PAUL Satterley became coach of the Northern Knights late last year, people became very jealous. At his immediate disposal, after all, would be Matthew Kreuzer, Trent Cotchin, Jack Grimes and Patrick Veszpremi, among others.


Grimes captained the team, and was its smart, sensible heartbeat until he woke up in pain after a midseason match.

He was diagnosed with stress fractures in his back, and had to watch on through the finals, but still will be drafted during the first round. Veszpremi is the opposite: Mr Action. You could never pick what exactly he'd do, or where on the ground he would do it, but you knew it would be exciting.

He played on when shoulder surgery beckoned, kicked eight goals in one half of a finals game, and should be gone by pick 20, too.

Still, individual journeys have been travelled.

Grimes went to South Africa this year with Cotchin, Veszpremi and the Australian Institute of Sport AFL Academy, and was a part of the leadership group that Jason McCartney and Michael Voss mentored.

The club that drafts him today doubtless will mention his leadership potential, and Satterley already considers him a "mini-James Hird".

It's something the 18-year-old has become more comfortable with in the past few months.

"I remember the first time I was announced as a leader. I was captain of Vic Metro in the under 16s and the first game we went into, I put so much pressure on myself," Grimes said.

"I thought I had to be the best player out there because I was captain, and I actually played the worst game of my life.

"Talking to guys like Vossy, you realise you don't have to change if you're a leader. I sort of learnt that when you get chosen as captain, it's not really for what you have to be, it's for what you already are.

"People vote for who you are, not what you could become."

Grimes' back became sore after he led another Metro team, the under 18s, at this year's national championships.
His place in the Knights' midfield was taken by Meredith, and his spot in the side by his younger brother, Dylan.

He has increased his running in the past few weeks, and begun to feel more optimistic, and more patient. But life as a potential draftee is uncertain, and there was a time Grimes worried not only about whether he'd get better, but whether the AFL clubs thought he would.

That fear still pops into his head sometimes now. "The doctor spoke to me about it before draft camp and he told me to be prepared because it's a bad injury and people will want to know about it," Grimes said.

"I was sort of prepared, but when we had the medical screen, I was in there for the longest time by a mile.

"I still worry about it a bit. I was really worried at the camp, that the clubs might not think I'd hold up through a pre-season, but the last few weeks have been good. I've been able to run and I've heard that the clubs aren't so worried about it. That's made me feel a lot better."

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Actually more like your Mark Bickley/Nathan Van Berlo type only Grimes is your taller midfield/utility type at AFL level - he would bring as much ferocity and endeavour as these two have/do and a very solid understanding of the game. He would be perfectly coachable and undeterred by his own mistakes in match situations and in general along the way as he makes his mark in the AFL. The bonus is he could be used just as effectively at opposite ends of the ground, as a stopper in defence playing tall or small, and as a dangerous contributor up forward, able to push up and find (and create) space for his teammates and be effective on the scoreboard. Has the motor to run all day and would bring the best out of his teammates, continually encouraging/firing them up in the process. Grimes is a player every team needs - not the most polished disposal (can be fixed) but offers flexibility, grunt, a strong inside presence and a strong marking presence (height a big plus) when in space, relentless pressure and a great attitude - you would feel good going into war with him on your side. The sort of player I love

Having said that, I'm sticking by my boy Rioli, that's my tip for us at pick 10, regardless of what has previously been said about his attitude and poor form at interviews (how wrong Gerard Neesham was after interviewing a timid young Andrew McLeod). I SERIOUSLY believe we will regret it if we don't take him, the boy is something very special and it will come back to haunt us one day if we overlook him, mark my word. He could quite well turn out to be one of the greatest indigenous players of his time, and possibly one of the greatest to ever grace the game.. That's a huge call but I'm not at all scared to make it.

With Pick 10 in the NAB AFL National Draft, Adelaide select..

Cyril Rioli

Grimes IMO is a quicker version of "sugar" johnson ........in the thrashing Vic metro took at the hands of WA he was up amongst the best players.

I also agree re Rioli ......but can we afford to gamble? .....look I won't complain if we take any of Rioli, Ebert, Rance, or Grimes.

However if we take Grimes then IMO we start to accumulate some "similar" typre players around the 183 - 187cm midfielders ......I still don't see that nippy midfielder.

That would have to addressed in second round which may them count against Greenwood? unless we have plans to take Petrenko which Iam liking more and more

 

[johnnypanther]

Actually more like your Mark Bickley/Nathan Van Berlo type only Grimes is your taller midfield/utility type at AFL level - he would bring as much ferocity and endeavour as these two have/do and a very solid understanding of the game. He would be perfectly coachable and undeterred by his own mistakes in match situations and in general along the way as he makes his mark in the AFL. The bonus is he could be used just as effectively at opposite ends of the ground, as a stopper in defence playing tall or small, and as a dangerous contributor up forward, able to push up and find (and create) space for his teammates and be effective on the scoreboard. Has the motor to run all day and would bring the best out of his teammates, continually encouraging/firing them up in the process. Grimes is a player every team needs - not the most polished disposal (can be fixed) but offers flexibility, grunt, a strong inside presence and a strong marking presence (height a big plus) when in space, relentless pressure and a great attitude - you would feel good going into war with him on your side. The sort of player I love

Having said that, I'm sticking by my boy Rioli, that's my tip for us at pick 10, regardless of what has previously been said about his attitude and poor form at interviews (how wrong Gerard Neesham was after interviewing a timid young Andrew McLeod). I SERIOUSLY believe we will regret it if we don't take him, the boy is something very special and it will come back to haunt us one day if we overlook him, mark my word. He could quite well turn out to be one of the greatest indigenous players of his time, and possibly one of the greatest to ever grace the game.. That's a huge call but I'm not at all scared to make it.

With Pick 10 in the NAB AFL National Draft, Adelaide select..

Cyril Rioli

i agree with you 100% except after listening to Rendell saying that he likes to be truthful & not misleading, I believe that there is no way that the AFC will select Rioli at pick 10.

But I would pick him - for the same reasons you have given above - he is a special talent, he can play in the midfield (see his repeat30 metre sprint results) and as for not wanting to leave Melbourne - that doesnt cut it - remember we never selected Nick Stephens for that reason yet he came to Port. Due to the Crows rarely if ever getting a top 5 pick, we will struggle to pick up potential superstars but i see this as an opportunity.

 

[Crow Envy]

Has anyone seen Patrick Dangerfield play? He sounds pretty good, the type of midfielder we need. 7th overall for 20m sprints. Wonder why we are off him?

14 – MELBOURNE – PATRICK DANGERFIELD

Geelong Falcons, VIC, Medium midfielder, April 5 1990, 186.9cm, 82.8kg

Melbourne will be closely monitoring the whereabouts of Jack Grimes, Lachlan Henderson and Ben McEvoy, although the trio looks set to be claimed before No.14. It will seriously consider Patrick Veszpremi here, but with Dangerfield now likely to be overlooked by Adelaide at No.10, expect Melbourne to pounce. Tony Notte may also be strongly considered, as he is unlikely to last until Melbourne's next pick at No.21. Dangerfield has come right into the top bracket and will not get past Geelong (No.17).

Bio: A dashing medium midfielder or defender who shows distinct ability to win the contested ball. He is a graduate of the AIS-AFL Academy. Ranked in the top three for both the 30m repeat sprints (23.96sec) and the vertical leap (73cm) at the 2007 NAB AFL Draft Camp and was also a top 10 ranked performer in the 20m sprint (2.92sec). From Anglesea FC.

He turned out alright

 

[Pugsley]

Tony Notte is now known as Buona notte.

 

[ams4crows]

What a pick up!!! Standing ovation for recruiting here.

 

[maxlilly]

He turned out alright

Good pick,
glad we had him for 150 games

 

[Sanders]

Has anyone seen Patrick Dangerfield play? He sounds pretty good, the type of midfielder we need. 7th overall for 20m sprints. Wonder why we are off him?

14 – MELBOURNE – PATRICK DANGERFIELD

Geelong Falcons, VIC, Medium midfielder, April 5 1990, 186.9cm, 82.8kg

Melbourne will be closely monitoring the whereabouts of Jack Grimes, Lachlan Henderson and Ben McEvoy, although the trio looks set to be claimed before No.14. It will seriously consider Patrick Veszpremi here, but with Dangerfield now likely to be overlooked by Adelaide at No.10, expect Melbourne to pounce. Tony Notte may also be strongly considered, as he is unlikely to last until Melbourne's next pick at No.21. Dangerfield has come right into the top bracket and will not get past Geelong (No.17).

Bio: A dashing medium midfielder or defender who shows distinct ability to win the contested ball. He is a graduate of the AIS-AFL Academy. Ranked in the top three for both the 30m repeat sprints (23.96sec) and the vertical leap (73cm) at the 2007 NAB AFL Draft Camp and was also a top 10 ranked performer in the 20m sprint (2.92sec). From Anglesea FC.

Fair call

 

[Crow Envy]

Fair call

Interesting reading the thread, some of the players have turned out duds.

 

[little graham]

Having said that, I'm sticking by my boy Rioli, . I SERIOUSLY believe we will regret it if we don't take him, the boy is something very special and it will come back to haunt us one day if we overlook him, mark my word. He could quite well turn out to be one of the greatest indigenous players of his time, and possibly one of the greatest to ever grace the game.. That's a huge call but I'm not at all scared to make it.

It was a right call, Riolli went 2 picks after 10.

 

[BACCS]

Interesting reading the thread, some of the players have turned out duds.

A mix of some absolute spuds and stars in the first round of that draft. Cale Morton...

 

[JP Sauce]

Can't believe we didn't take Veszpremi!!!

 

[BACCS]

Can't believe we didn't take Veszpremi!!!

Can't believe Cale Morton didn't slip until pick 10!

 

[Freddy Bassett]

Cant believe we allowed Trigg to sack Rendell....