Working Together To Secure Good Friday

[OldBlueFan]

Personally, I think the "holy day" argument is a crock, no offence. When all is said and done, if any day of the year has significance for you personally, you can spend it however you wish, no-one would be twisting your arm to attend a sporting event.

I really pisses me off the way the Christian and in particular, Catholic folks get up in arms about these things. As an atheist, I don't bitch and moan that my television is monopolised on Christmas Day for example, I just tune out, as they could for a 3 hour footy match if it was played on Good Friday.

In a very short space of time (if not already) Christians will be in the minority in this country and yet they still "own" days. Why doesn't the world stop for Rosh Hashanah, Vasaka Puja or Laylat al-Qadr? These are all days that have at least the same level of significance for other religions that Good Friday has for Christians.

 

[bluepride]

Well footy is not my religion, my religion is someone who died on the cross for us, and no that wasn't crap.

alpha, this is a very touchy topic
i am christian myself not that it matters, and found the above statement a little annoying, if football is his relgion so be it it may have been a joke but that doesnt matter

sounded as if to me, u were imply that ur faith was more powerful than his

 

[Salaryman]

the stripey bloke gets it

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

^ Very narrow minded... It's no justification for no footy to you - to others it is - I am indifferent. Take that on board.

SLF, smaller clubs definitely have that right - I think that would be better suited to ANZAC day however - as the neutral support is guaranteed as the ANZAC match is institutionalised in Melbourne as something "Australian" in spite of the obvious irony such an assertion infers.

I actually wasn't aware that we are in cahoots, covertly trying to 'pull a Sheedy' and land ourselves a big match. I had no idea that the Carlton v. North matches had some fundraising element to them.

ANZAC Day has already been colonised by the various shades of scum.

Melbourne and the black and white scum have a lock on Queen's Birthday.

We're certainly linking this match with the Royal Children's Hospital:

[URL="http://www.kangaroos.com.au/tabid/4912/default.aspx?newsid=95836"]The North Melbourne Football Club has joined the MY ROOM fundraising organisation in the fight against childhood cancer.

The Kangaroos will help promote the charity in the lead up to their Friday night blockbuster against Carlton and will also be donating one dollar for every person who attends the game.

“More children die from cancer than any other disease and after visiting some of the wards at the Royal Children’s Hospital, we felt compelled to help the MY ROOM charity as much as possible,” North chief executive Eugene Arocca told kangaroos.com.au. [/URL]

I suspect the plan is to lobby for an annual Friday nighter against you which then becomes THE Good Friday game if/when that happens.

Just wondering if there was any input from your end.

 

[BlueMania]

I'm not religious now but was raised Catholic and my memory of the whole Easter story is that Jesus said unto his disciples words to the effect of 'Don't mourn my death, spread my word' and then when he rose from the dead heb repeated this message, that is was about the salvation and eternal life he offered etc.

In this regard, wouldn't Jesus have wanted us to have footy on Good Friday but spend Easter Sunday with family and friends celebrating his message?

(Also, being the son of but poor and humble types, yet brave and committed to social justice ... no pokies ... Jesus would have been a North supporter)

So he wasn't very smart then ?

 

[Alpha1]

I respect peoples opinions, and I realize that not many will agree with me. I can see the whole point of money going to hospitals etc and that is indeed a good thing.

I just think that in this world we have to find time to reaffirm our faith, I think a lot of the ills of the world are because we have lost our way. Is it so much to ask for Good Friday to be held sacred?

Maybe I am ranting and this is no big deal, but to me it is, is it such a big deal that we just give up one day to religion and faith?

 

[Salaryman]

actually I was going to stick to the gags, but if you are going to politicise it, most of the ills of the world are actually tied to religious beliefs

 

[OldBlueFan]

I respect peoples opinions, and I realize that not many will agree with me. I can see the whole point of money going to hospitals etc and that is indeed a good thing.

I just think that in this world we have to find time to reaffirm our faith, I think a lot of the ills of the world are because we have lost our way. Is it so much to ask for Good Friday to be held sacred?

Maybe I am ranting and this is no big deal, but to me it is, is it such a big deal that we just give up one day to religion and faith?

Alpha ... it's indeed not a big deal that YOU give up a day for your religion and faith, but what gives anyone the right to insist that everyone (regardless of religious stripe, or lack of one) give that day up as well?

 

[OldBlueFan]

Oh, and to the folks saying North wouldn't draw a big crowd ... do you think that the lack of support for some of the smaller clubs might have something to do with the singular lack of "marquis" AFL events that they are involved in?

An event like this may just raise their profile enough to help them survive.

 

[Alpha1]

Alpha ... it's indeed not a big deal that YOU give up a day for your religion and faith, but what gives anyone the right to insist that everyone (regardless of religious stripe, or lack of one) give that day up as well?

Well I am not going to preach, but I don't think it is a big deal for us all to give up one day to do something nice, you don't have to read the Bible or go to Church.

Why can't you give up 24 hours? Is it so bad to have religion?

 

[BlueTouchPaper]

It doesn't really matter - religion is more or less the belief in something less than tangible, your holy grail, be it what it may, is sacred to yourself and to your religion.

There is nothing less legitimate about saying following football is your religion, or the teachings of the bible is your religion.

And as OBF suggests, people of different faiths put up with the predominant faiths' customs. I think that notion will prevail on Good Friday, like it does on Christmas day.

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

Oh, and to the folks saying North wouldn't draw a big crowd ... do you think that the lack of support for some of the smaller clubs might have something to do with the singular lack of "marquis" AFL events that they are involved in?

An event like this may just raise their profile enough to help them survive.

Exactly. Its a vicious circle. We don't draw big crowds so we don't get big games etc.

In 1998, in a Round 22 clash to decide top spot, North and the Dogs drew 68k to the G for a Fruiday night game. It can happen.

A Good Friday game would attract muchos neutrales.

 

[Alpha1]

Unfortunately for us all we have been brain washed by the media, everything sacred has been commercialized, I can type up a lengthy preach post here, but I won't.

I just think some things should remain sacred, we have lost too much already, and we will loose a lot more, Good Friday should remain sacred, untouched.

 

[dumb]

i'd be curious as to what the players association made of it, and whether the players involved would have a problem. i couldn't care less whether or not footy is played on the fri. i'm more supportive of a game going ahead for secularisation-type reasons.

i do like the idea of it being a blockbuster to support a 'poorer' team though, regardless of carlton playing in it.

i know it probably would have to be tied into the appeal thing, but frankly why should that have a monopoly too? there must be plenty of people who just want to hand over money (or not) who just want to avoid the bombardment of it. i'm sure they would end up together anyway, pass the tin around.

porter-martyn cup?

 

[CrippsonBlue]

OBF pretty much owns this thread.

Great input

 

[parrot]

Don't mind the idea of talking up such a potential game, but it's going to be pretty hard to sell a game against North as a "Blockbuster". North struggle to get 20k to many of their games. The premise of this thread is all wrong. Blockbusters don't happen from publicity or a few CEO's getting together. Blockbusters happen because they're blockbusters i.e great clubs, playing awesome footy. We only have one half of the equation here. It can only happen if North turn their current dire situation around.

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

Don't mind the idea of talking up such a potential game, but it's going to be pretty hard to sell a game against North as a "Blockbuster". North struggle to get 20k to many of their games. The premise of this thread is all wrong. Blockbusters don't happen from publicity or a few CEO's getting together. Blockbusters happen because they're blockbusters i.e great clubs, playing awesome footy. We only have one half of the equation here. It can only happen if North turn their current dire situation around.

Not against other Melbourne teams.

 

[Silvagnis]

Look, I respect your right to your beliefs, but some loon with a big nose, wearing sandals, walking round saying be lovey dovey to each other, is no justification for no footy.

Can I sig that?

 

[Silvagnis]

Well I am not going to preach, but I don't think it is a big deal for us all to give up one day to do something nice, you don't have to read the Bible or go to Church.

Why can't you give up 24 hours? Is it so bad to have religion?

Troll.

If you really believed in God and religion, then a religious person would have base jumped without a parachute and expected God to save them.

Maybe he did.

I think we should stop turning this into the S, C & P board, because our token David Hicks supporter might end his BF ban.

 

[mediumsizered]

(Also, being the son of but poor and humble types, yet brave and committed to social justice ... no pokies ... Jesus would have been a North supporter)

Actually I think Jesus would be attracted to Carlton by the feats of Chris Judd. He would see a lot of himself in Juddy.

 

[MBIB]

It'll keep coming up and so long as Demetriou's in charge it won't get through. In my opinion the sooner the better.

I respect people's beliefs but it's not everyone's beliefs and I for one are really bored on Good Friday. Who can be bothered starting a petition?

 

[Blue Bawls]

I think religion is like rugby league - it's astounding that otherwise intelligent people believe in it...

Not having an AFL game is the only thing stopping it being a good Friday.

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

Actually I think Jesus would be attracted to Carlton by the feats of Chris Judd. He would see a lot of himself in Juddy.

Jesus kicked the moneychangers out of the temple remember?

 

[mediumsizered]

Jesus kicked the moneychangers out of the temple remember?

And he walked on water, much like Juddy did in the last quarter at the MCG on Saturday.

 

[Silvagnis]

It'll keep coming up and so long as Demetriou's in charge it won't get through. In my opinion the sooner the better.

I respect people's beliefs but it's not everyone's beliefs and I for one are really bored on Good Friday. Who can be bothered starting a petition?

We don't avoid playing footy on holy days that belong to other faiths.

So why shouldn't we play footy on Good Friday?

God is dead.