WTF!? - AFL wants to reduce "excessive tackling"

[roacheee]

Good skillful tackles are a great part of the game.

Players (often multiple) standing next to someone at a stoppage ready to instantly tackle them if they get the ball so we can have another stoppage and do it all again - booooooring.

geelong supporter or afl operative?

or both

 

[kickazz]

geelong supporter or afl operative?

or both

Just my honest opinion on watching the game. Your ad hominem is pathetic.

 

[StonesThrow]

It is a man's game after all.

 

[roacheee]

I’m a strong believer that there’s to much tackling in the modern game. Hocking just wants to reduce congestion and one of the biggest factors of congestion is the tackling numbers.
When I was a kid I use to wear Abletts number 5 on my back and follow him from end to end to watch him kick goals, these days kids get to go to the footy to watch Selwood or crouch get 16 tackles a game. I feel sorry the modern generation of football fans.
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you'd be happy that gold coast don't tackle much

 

[SunshineBoy]

Some solid melts going on here amongst the BF mouth breathers

A question - are people HAPPY with the number of tackles in a game these days compared to 15-20 years ago? I certainly don't watch games to see how many tackles each team/player can get.

No but how are they going to police it ? How many tackles is too many? Do they get say 120 like the 8nterchange started? If you get to 120 say before three quarter time you’re not allowed to tackle any more? If you tackle do they pay a free against you....lots and lots of questions and no answers by the boffins on here, let alone air breathers like yousrelf

 

[SunshineBoy]

I'm much more interested with ball skills than tackling skills. The reality has been for some time that we have been rewarding the tackling player over the ball player and our game has moved closer to Rugby.
One ball, 36 players on the field. Reward the ball player.

Bullshit the player with the ball just throws it, our game is rugby union with forward passes now , stop the throws Patrick and others and the game is fixed

 

[Corpuscles]

The bigger picture problem is in four parts as follows.

1. The game has failed to develop clear unambiguous fixed definition of the RULES.
(Even numb-nut Rugby codes and Soccer are mainly it either IS or it ISN'T and are strictly enforced in most occasions).

2. Allows umpires to "interpret" ,and be directed on a regular ever changing (sometimes weekly) manner, the interpretation of such existing RULES

3. AFL constantly meddles and adjusts or makes new RULES ,often with some basic sound reason, but without adequate consideration for the consequences of such meddling. IT creates an avalanche or one piece of string pulled causes another unforeseen tangled ball of string compound problem.

4. The direction of the actual RULES of a widely played amateur sport is dictated, not only by making a safer modern game clearer and better widely understood and appreciated , but is too influenced by the commercial interests of the media (TV deal) and profits!(potential lawsuits) and made by ivory tower knobs egos and their fancys.

Yes the game must change slightly with the times. However this latest beat up 'issue' is a result of bumbled prior meddling. Being mainly rule changes to the ruck/stoppage contest and basics such as - Holding the Man rule

 

[AvantGardener]

A stricter interpretation of htb would do it, as in if you take possession you must dispose of it or it's a free.

This would encourage players to tap the ball to space more rather than pick the ball up and getting wrapped up immediately.

Ruck contests would work better if the ruckman hit the ball to space rather than dropping it at his feet to a pack.

I'll see what Hocking means and does before I'll cast judgement but endless tackling and ball ups as perfected by Paul Roos has made the game unwatchable and congested.

Wrong. HTB intepretation needs to much much less strict. Players are nearly better off sitting back and waiting to tackle as it is now. A looser interpretation will allow players to be more creative with ball in hand and give them time to get the ball to the outside rather than being worried they are going to get pinged for HTB and doing a rubbish disposal that adds to the congestion.

 

[HawkMongrel]

haha, walked away in round 2, can't see myself ever returning at this rate.

What an amateur organisation. Completely destroying an entire sport.

Hang them all.

 

[Rich]

Is the Goodes doco on FTA TV tonight by any chance?

 

[hawkman]

I was watching a non-Geelong game on the w/e just gone and there was an incident (happens 100 times a game), a player is tackled, the tackler rolls the tackled over onto his stomach and lays flat on top of him, you literally can't get anymore in the back than that. They are the only 2 players in the contest, the umpire whistles for a ball up, no prior opportunity. I'm thinking wtf, how is that not in the back. It happens dozens of times in every game, it's in the back.

Too high is no different. Umpire blows the whistle for a ball up, the pack separates, the last two players get up, the one on the bottom has the ball and the one on top has him in a headlock. It's ******* too high.

Too simple a solution for the AFL

Another thing i have noticed is umpires waiting for ruckmen to arrive for a throw in or a bounce when they are 30 or 40 metres away, by the time they arrive a bigger pack has formed

 

[Boston tiger]

All goes back to players being too fit and our ovals are too small for the modern AFL player. AFL needs to continue down the path of fatigue eg less interchange and hopefully less players around the ball.


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[Benno_900]

How about you reduce "excessive rule changes" you bozo?

Fancy forcing 12 players to stay inside 50 at every centre bounce and thinking that INCREASES scoring.

Did it work you illogical ****wit?

 

[Benny78]

Good on him I don't watch to watch a highschool scratch match. I want to see more epic passages of play like 10 years ago and the congested defensive oriented cluster**** Lyon and Roos instilled on our game needs some intervention

It's not nearly abused by players as it can be. Here is a perfect example why Hocking is right and why this is a great move to prevent more players in the future playing like this. I don't think this trash Freo player even looked at the ball once. Any D grader has the ability to do this at a stoppage which is why it could break the game if every player did it.

 

[kickazz]

let alone air breathers like yousrelf

You breathe something different to the rest of us?

 

[kickazz]

All goes back to players being too fit and our ovals are too small for the modern AFL player. AFL needs to continue down the path of fatigue eg less interchange and hopefully less players around the ball.


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That's basically it. Also wonder what sixteen a side would be like. One thing for sure it's an easy rule to interpret

 

[Spuddigger]

Bulls**t the player with the ball just throws it, our game is rugby union with forward passes now , stop the throws Patrick and others and the game is fixed

Finally! Somebody who sees the gamse like me.

 

[The 747]

Disregarding the ridiculous posts by Richmond supporters in this thread - grow up hey? This to me makes it pretty obvious that the AFL want to do something about congestion but genuinely have NFI how to go about it.

 

[D-N-R]

Wrong. HTB intepretation needs to much much less strict. Players are nearly better off sitting back and waiting to tackle as it is now. A looser interpretation will allow players to be more creative with ball in hand and give them time to get the ball to the outside rather than being worried they are going to get pinged for HTB and doing a rubbish disposal that adds to the congestion.

If they don't have to worry about getting pinged for htb they'll be happy to hold onto it, get tackled and reset for another bounce. And I'm not sure how it could be looser without the end result always being a ball up. As it is they have heaps of time to get rid of it if they have their hands free.

 

[AvantGardener]

If they don't have to worry about getting pinged for htb they'll be happy to hold onto it, get tackled and reset for another bounce. And I'm not sure how it could be looser without the end result always being a ball up. As it is they have heaps of time to get rid of it if they have their hands free.

If they have more time to get rid of it they will take the tackler on more often and do more creative things which will free up space. As it is now players are too scared to be creative because moment someone lays a hand on you it is HTB.

 

[SunshineBoy]

Disregarding the ridiculous posts by Richmond supporters in this thread - grow up hey? This to me makes it pretty obvious that the AFL want to do something about congestion but genuinely have NFI how to go about it.

Hocking made it pretty obvious which club he was targeting , all those finals losses to the tigers by your boys must be getting to them

 

[The 747]

Hocking made it pretty obvious which club he was targeting , all those finals losses to the tigers by your boys must be getting to them

You have NFI if you actually believe that.

 

[Power Raid]

"The AFL is examining the issue of excessive tackling, with football boss Steve Hocking saying the AFL wants to reduce the amount of tackling in the game."

Hocking said that tackling had become ‘‘a feature’’ of the game and that the AFL wanted to see the number of tackles reduced, although he did not specify the desired number.

‘‘I have a very strong view on that. It has become a feature of our game and all the stuff that we’re analysing is how to get a balance back in that so that it’s not a feature of the game."

AFL wants to cut back on tackling

The AFL is examining the issue of excessive tackling, with football boss Steve Hocking saying the AFL wants to reduce the amount of tackling in the game.

www.theage.com.au

What the fu** are these morons in charge thinking?

Tackling is an integral part of the game. Stop messing with it. Gahhhh

Tackling is dangerous and if the game was invented today, simply never allowed.

There is nothing that a tackle can achieve that a simple tag couldn’t.

Same said with hand balling. It could hurt your hand! A simple throw would suffice.

 

[SunshineBoy]

You have NFI if you actually believe that.

What club did he use as his example?

 

[JT_the_Man]

Dear Steve Hocking,

**** off.

Kind regards,

Football fans everywhere.