Any of FOS, Smith, Draper or Lalor and even Langford has entered the mix so why give away our F1. That guy is nuts.
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Ok fair enough.
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Giving up a future 1st to pick a player around the same mark imo is trading madness.
We are far, far, far better off to sit tight & take Draper or whoever we think is the 4th best player (excluding Ashcroft), rather than sacrificing a future 1st to climb 2 spots.
It's no wonder North wouldn't blink accepting this offer.
Something will happen around that top 5 for sure. Maybe F1 is more involved more now with Jaidyn Stephenson retiring.
There mightn’t be a huge difference between your F1 and our F2 either.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Richmond trade for your pick 2, but there is absolutely no reason for the Crows to when there is not much between the top 4 players.
Giving up our future 1st to go up 2 places for a player valued around the same is complete madness.
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1. Rich - Lalor
2. NM - Tauru
3. Carl - O'Sullivan
4. Bris - Ashcroft
5. Adel - Draper
2. NM - Tauru
3. Carl - O'Sullivan
4. Bris - Ashcroft
5. Adel - Draper
No offence, and just my opinion, but Carlton wishful thinking that North would take Tauru at 2 mate. I don’t even think he’s our preferred KP player. You’ll be taking Draper at 3 if it’s North at 2 I reckon. Think FOS is going at 2 regardless. Could be wrong. But us using 2 to take Tauru feels like the ultimate gamble on our club’s future. But we will see
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Not giving up a future first! Sliding our first down to Kanga's second!
This kind of thinking blows my mind. There's a top 5 because Cal Twomey says there is. Oh look another player has entered the mix because Cal Twomey says they have.
Each club has their preferred players sorted in a ranked list, or at the very least tiers. So unless you know Hamish and know he has ranked the top 5 players evenly then it's just crazy saying we're happy with the guy we get at 4 because they're all so even. No. That is nuts.
We would have a clear ranking with this top 4. So what you're saying is you're happy settling for the guy we have potentially 4th on our list. I'm saying, I'd rather slide our first back to norths second next year and get the guy we want 1st or 2nd most in this draft.
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There is no consensus about the order of the 1st 5 picks as they are quite even... so it's insane to offer our future 1st rounder for a future 2nd rounder to slide up 2 places to take a simila ralue [if not the same!l pkayer.
You only consider a trade like this if there was a gun top 2 players compared to the rest.
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In dealing with Brisbane for their pick 20, I have a feeling we gave them a guarantee that we wouldn't bid on Ashcroft with pick one. Just a hunch.
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I'd give up a future 2nd rounder to move from 4 to 2 with North but no more for the reasons you say but if they would do it, moving to 2 means we are sure of the player we want and if they don't care which of the top 4 they get (and they get tilo stay inside the defined top 4), they gain an f2 for nothing.
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We don't have any future 2nd!
We are well placed at pick 4 to get a gun midfielder & trading up is just throwing away trade capital unnecessarily.
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I know but we have 3 x f3' to look to trade for one with a side needing points next year for academy or father sons
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So you want to leave us with hardly any picks next year to get a similar if not the same player.
Madness given how even the top 4 or 5 are imo.
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Not fussed about some 3rd rounders next year..worry about that then. Get the player we really want now and still have our f1 i am fine with
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I don't think North will get fair value for trading out 2, so wont happen. My thoughts (excluding bids) and will be a rebel and go top 10 instead of 5.
Tiges - Lalor
Roos - FOS
Blues - Draper
Crows - Smith
Dees - Langford
Tigers - Smillie
Saints - Tauru
Saints - Reid
Dees - Armstrong or Trainor
Tiges - Armstrong or Trainor
Tiges - Lalor
Roos - FOS
Blues - Draper
Crows - Smith
Dees - Langford
Tigers - Smillie
Saints - Tauru
Saints - Reid
Dees - Armstrong or Trainor
Tiges - Armstrong or Trainor
This order, which i largely agree with, is why StKilda has jumped in the race for Pick 2. Because with this hand of 7 & 8, they can't afford to be left with just getting the 7th best mid.
Their midfield needs a lot of help and they either need one of the Top mids at 2 or two mids at 7&8. They can't let the above play out.
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1. Rich: Lalor
2. Kang: Huckleberry
3. Carl: Smith
4. Adel: Draper
5. Melb: Langford
If Kang trade 2 for 6 + 18 Rich take Smith at 2, Carl take Huckleberry at 3.
If Kang trade 2 + future 1st for 5 + 9 Melb take Huckleberry at 2.
# Carl bid on Ashcroft.
2. Kang: Huckleberry
3. Carl: Smith
4. Adel: Draper
5. Melb: Langford
If Kang trade 2 for 6 + 18 Rich take Smith at 2, Carl take Huckleberry at 3.
If Kang trade 2 + future 1st for 5 + 9 Melb take Huckleberry at 2.
# Carl bid on Ashcroft.
1.Richmond - Lalor
2.Brisbane - Ashcroft
3.St.Kilda - Smith
4.Carlton - O’Sullivan
5.Adelaide - Draper
6.Melbourne - Langford
7.Richmond - Smillie
8.North - Tauru
9.St.Kilda - Reid
10.Melbourne - Armstrong
*North now hold St.Kilda’s 2025 1st pick
2.Brisbane - Ashcroft
3.St.Kilda - Smith
4.Carlton - O’Sullivan
5.Adelaide - Draper
6.Melbourne - Langford
7.Richmond - Smillie
8.North - Tauru
9.St.Kilda - Reid
10.Melbourne - Armstrong
*North now hold St.Kilda’s 2025 1st pick
Think St Kilda would want a big bodied mid from there picks.
They do have Steele Phillipou and Windhager.
Importantly for the Saints in doing this trade is access to the absolute elite midfielders.
Smith appears to be money in the bank and could easily be the best of the best midfielders in this draft along with the very accomplished Reid.
Overnight, the Saints midfield becomes the real deal going forward …
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1 Richmond Lalor
2 Brisbane Ashcroft
3 North O'Sullivan
4 Carlton Draper
5 Adelaide Langford
6 Melbourne Smith
7 Richmond Reid
8 St Kilda Tauru
9 Essendon Kako
10 St Kilda Smillie
1 Richmond Lalor
2 Brisbane Ashcroft
3 North Tauru
4 Carlton O'Sullivan
5 Adelaide Draper
6 Melbourne Langford
7 Richmond Smith
8 St Kilda Reid
9 Essendon Kako
10 St Kilda Smillie
I think the draft comes down to North Melbourne and who they select with Pick 2 if they can't facilitate a trade.
2 Brisbane Ashcroft
3 North O'Sullivan
4 Carlton Draper
5 Adelaide Langford
6 Melbourne Smith
7 Richmond Reid
8 St Kilda Tauru
9 Essendon Kako
10 St Kilda Smillie
1 Richmond Lalor
2 Brisbane Ashcroft
3 North Tauru
4 Carlton O'Sullivan
5 Adelaide Draper
6 Melbourne Langford
7 Richmond Smith
8 St Kilda Reid
9 Essendon Kako
10 St Kilda Smillie
I think the draft comes down to North Melbourne and who they select with Pick 2 if they can't facilitate a trade.
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Agree with top 4 but reckon Melbourne will likely take Langford
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