Player Watch #21: Noah Balta - Signed Until 2032

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I'm a huge Noah Balta fan and you've found a gem with the ability to play defense, ruck and forward with great proficiency, I posted how much of a god he is on this thread when as a defender when he shut down Hawkins and Dixon turning them into babies.

I do not believe he's 194 cms as he's listed at now (when he got drafted sure). I reckon he's grown to 197 cms as he looks taller than Astbury who's 195 cm and almost as tall as Hawkins who's 198 cms.

As a defender he's big enough to defend the big gorilla forwards and athletic enough to play on the athletic type key forwards could also be capable of playing on a small. Decent ability to read the ball in flight but felt his rebounding ability wasn't utilized to the fullest when he can run and has a penetrating kick on both feet. He'll run off a resting ruck if the ball goes to ground. If he attacks the ball hard like a forward not worrying about his man consistently taking intercept grabs and the club utilizes his rebounding ability to the fullest with taking riskier options with his penetrating disposals then you may potentially have an upgraded version of Alex Rance and that's saying alot.

As a ruck he's a little bit undersized to be a full time ruck but has a decent leap to compete at the center bounces and is strong enough to compete against first and second rucks at stoppages but once it goes to ground level against those lumbersome rucks he's virtually an extra midfielder where he can use his burst to accelerate from the stoppage like Nic Nat does. When he does ruck full time he'll get beaten by a stronger taller tap ruck in the hitouts at least and that can be detrimental if it leads to oppo clearances hence why he's best suited as a pinch hitter where he can use his burst to compete and become an extra mid.

As a forward is where I think he'll be best at. Instead of having to worry about a man he can play with freedom. He's too tall for those shorter athletic KPDs too quick for those gorilla type KPDs and is strong enough in a one on one to overpower a weaker defender or bring the ball to ground against stronger defenders where he can use his athleticism to beat them at ground level. Can kick the ball far so he has a longer range than most forwards and is pretty accurate at goal.

For me if Jack AND Lynch is fit then you should only go with one ruck probably Nank since he's captain and Noah can be the pinch hitting ruck otherwise you'd be too top heavy as shown in the Carlton game where they're able to rebound it out at will but if Jack retires or gets injured then you can go with a two rucks with Nank and Soldo without being too top heavy.
 
He’s also one of the most loyal people. He isn’t going anywhere with the Croatian culture building within the club
Everyone wants to be loyal but not everyone will say no to an extra $200k - $300k a year if a godfather offer comes from a club with cap room needing a KPF or KPD. I could see either Macrae or Rutten wanting their grubby little hands on him and offering mega deals with some sort of connection they have with him.

We just need to try and lock him up sooner rather than later.
 

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I'm a huge Noah Balta fan and you've found a gem with the ability to play defense, ruck and forward with great proficiency, I posted how much of a god he is on this thread when as a defender when he shut down Hawkins and Dixon turning them into babies.

I do not believe he's 194 cms as he's listed at now (when he got drafted sure). I reckon he's grown to 197 cms as he looks taller than Astbury who's 195 cm and almost as tall as Hawkins who's 198 cms.

As a defender he's big enough to defend the big gorilla forwards and athletic enough to play on the athletic type key forwards could also be capable of playing on a small. Decent ability to read the ball in flight but felt his rebounding ability wasn't utilized to the fullest when he can run and has a penetrating kick on both feet. He'll run off a resting ruck if the ball goes to ground. If he attacks the ball hard like a forward not worrying about his man consistently taking intercept grabs and the club utilizes his rebounding ability to the fullest with taking riskier options with his penetrating disposals then you may potentially have an upgraded version of Alex Rance and that's saying alot.

As a ruck he's a little bit undersized to be a full time ruck but has a decent leap to compete at the center bounces and is strong enough to compete against first and second rucks at stoppages but once it goes to ground level against those lumbersome rucks he's virtually an extra midfielder where he can use his burst to accelerate from the stoppage like Nic Nat does. When he does ruck full time he'll get beaten by a stronger taller tap ruck in the hitouts at least and that can be detrimental if it leads to oppo clearances hence why he's best suited as a pinch hitter where he can use his burst to compete and become an extra mid.

As a forward is where I think he'll be best at. Instead of having to worry about a man he can play with freedom. He's too tall for those shorter athletic KPDs too quick for those gorilla type KPDs and is strong enough in a one on one to overpower a weaker defender or bring the ball to ground against stronger defenders where he can use his athleticism to beat them at ground level. Can kick the ball far so he has a longer range than most forwards and is pretty accurate at goal.

For me if Jack AND Lynch is fit then you should only go with one ruck probably Nank since he's captain and Noah can be the pinch hitting ruck otherwise you'd be too top heavy as shown in the Carlton game where they're able to rebound it out at will but if Jack retires or gets injured then you can go with a two rucks with Nank and Soldo without being too top heavy.
From memory I think most of us BF Tigers were more keen on Brander than Balta for that draft ?
There was also a lot of noise about us taking Sam Hayes the Victorian ruckman - then we took Callum Coleman-Jones.
 
Get him up the ****ing ground.

He has the attributes to be massive weapon playing higher up and being able to utilise his long kick to get over the back of zones and speed to beat his opponent back in transition, so why he the deepest forward is beyond me. Had 54 metres gained today. Every time he kicks the balls he should be kicking it further than that.
 
I know it was a tough game to be a forward for us, but I am starting to wonder if trying to turn him into a forward is worth it?

He's gone from being the most promising young key defender in the comp to a typical young key forward who struggles to get involved in the game.

I know we have no KPF depth and plenty of KPD depth, but if we persevere with this experiment too long we may ruin him.

I think he's quite similar to Darcy Moore. He's a gun key defender who can have an impact when thrown forward on occasion, but is a much more natural defender.
 
I know it was a tough game to be a forward for us, but I am starting to wonder if trying to turn him into a forward is worth it?

He's gone from being the most promising young key defender in the comp to a typical young key forward who struggles to get involved in the game.

I know we have no KPF depth and plenty of KPD depth, but if we persevere with this experiment too long we may ruin him.

I think he's quite similar to Darcy Moore. He's a gun key defender who can have an impact when thrown forward on occasion, but is a much more natural defender.
The terrible list management means we have zero genuine KPF depth. And when the option was there to draft one this past off season, we took a mid sized HBF.

For that reason, we are in between a rock and a hard place. Balta is probably an AA CHB, but until we recruit or draft a true KPF, we need him as a forward, otherwise when Riewoldt retires or Lynch/Riewoldt gets injured, we literally have no one.

Ryan is a mile off. Don't even mention him.
 
I know it was a tough game to be a forward for us, but I am starting to wonder if trying to turn him into a forward is worth it?

He's gone from being the most promising young key defender in the comp to a typical young key forward who struggles to get involved in the game.

I know we have no KPF depth and plenty of KPD depth, but if we persevere with this experiment too long we may ruin him.

I think he's quite similar to Darcy Moore. He's a gun key defender who can have an impact when thrown forward on occasion, but is a much more natural defender.

Much stronger physically than Darcy Moore.

It won’t ruin Balta playing him different positions, will only help his development. We have no chance of beating strong teams when it matters this season without finding something extra, so it makes sense to try to work out what Balta can do. We know he can play back, we have that in the bank. We’ll be waiting a couple of years at least for some of the kids to come through before we can start making a move towards contending again so nothing we try that fails in that time should cost us anything of note.
 
I know it was a tough game to be a forward for us, but I am starting to wonder if trying to turn him into a forward is worth it?

He's gone from being the most promising young key defender in the comp to a typical young key forward who struggles to get involved in the game.

Ben Miller's draft combine results:

Goalkicking30/301st overall
Agility Run8.10 seconds1st overall
20m Sprint2.91 seconds4th overall

I wonder if we've got this backwards...
Could we turn Miller into a lead up forward?
 

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Ben Miller's draft combine results:

Goalkicking30/301st overall
Agility Run8.10 seconds1st overall
20m Sprint2.91 seconds4th overall

I wonder if we've got this backwards...
Could we turn Miller into a lead up forward?
Was actually about to suggest just that!

VFL has a bye next week, but I'd like to see Miller thrown forward, with a bit of time chopping out Ryan in the ruck.
 
I know it was a tough game to be a forward for us, but I am starting to wonder if trying to turn him into a forward is worth it?

He's gone from being the most promising young key defender in the comp to a typical young key forward who struggles to get involved in the game.

I know we have no KPF depth and plenty of KPD depth, but if we persevere with this experiment too long we may ruin him.

I think he's quite similar to Darcy Moore. He's a gun key defender who can have an impact when thrown forward on occasion, but is a much more natural defender.
Despite the fact that he's well established at AFL level through his performances in the back line, we have to think of Noah as a brand new KPF who has just started out in the caper. There's no way we'd be jumping the gun on calling him a failed forward if he hadn't already played 20 odd games as a gun defender.

Just think of him as a dude who's played less than 10 games as a key forward. It will take time. Hell, he kicked four goals and dominated only a few weeks ago.

I wasn't sure about it at first, but now I think we just need to be patient. It will be worth it.
 
Relax people. Can't blame the forwards again tonight. They've been getting putrid slow delivery that's often kicked to their direct opponents advantage or sat on their heads to spoil. Anyone saying try Miller up forward has no idea and clearly didn't see Miller spud it up in the Magoo's again. The cavalries coming soon we're going to have Martin, Lambert and several kids like Sonsie, Judson and Banks playing who can all hit a target. Tony Lockett, Dunstall and Modra would be lucky to kick a goal if they were playing for us the delivery has been that disgraceful.
 
I know it was a tough game to be a forward for us, but I am starting to wonder if trying to turn him into a forward is worth it?

He's gone from being the most promising young key defender in the comp to a typical young key forward who struggles to get involved in the game.

I know we have no KPF depth and plenty of KPD depth, but if we persevere with this experiment too long we may ruin him.

I think he's quite similar to Darcy Moore. He's a gun key defender who can have an impact when thrown forward on occasion, but is a much more natural defender.
Yeah I think going forward Balta and Gibcus should be what we build our defence on.
 
Kid is completely lost right now and I think it’s fair to say the “three headed monster” is a massive fail.

Yep, I can't believe how bad he was last night, return him to CHB please Dimma, he's running around in circles at the moment. He's a great mark, strong as an ox and a long kick, reminds me a bit of Darcy Moore, and see what happened to him when they tried him up forward.
 
Yeah I think going forward Balta and Gibcus should be what we build our defence on.
Yep I agree, with Biggy to join them when Grimes retires.

I'm happy to leave Balta up forward until the bye if they want a bit more time to see if he can grow into the role, but if it's not working by then I think we should move him back.
 
I have never been a supporter of playing Balta forward. To the utter dismay of every other supporter in the league by some miracle we get a Rance clone with a pick in the mid-20's. Worse still the next draft after we win two premierships we get a top ten pick and land Gibcus. Assuming they still fit that is potentially a defence with two AA for the next decade. And since premierships are ultimately won with strong defences that's massive.

Plus in a sense playing Balta up forward we are just delaying the inevitable. Miller is problematical at best and Tarrant turns 33 today and opinions on how he has gone are sharply divided. Whether we like it or not he'll probably be back in defence sooner rather than later. Of course this does nothing to help our dire KPF stocks, but it does however provide a stark reality check to those advocating nothing but midfielders next draft. Our KPF situation going forward is at least as bad as our midfield crisis. And since talls take longer than midfielders to mature and since it is going to take more than one draft to address both desperate needs, don't be surprised if first pick this draft is a tall.

Anyhow getting back to Balta the sooner he goes down back, the happier I will be. Regardless of it's merits in theory it's not going to deliver us a premiership this year or frankly even a finals spot. For what little we are getting trying to buttress the ageing key position duo of Riewoldt and Lynch I Would rather play Miller or Ryan up forward as decoys than sacrifice the next Rance.
 
Was I the only one who thought Noah was setting up to have a shot at goal from 60m out? We know he has the leg for it.

Unfortunately the bloke with the whistle didn't. Instead of giving him the full 30 seconds, the ump called play on and ruined it.

Maybe it was just me...
 

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