Player Watch Jordan De Goey

[TW Sherrin]

Not relevant unless it includes Remy telling JDG that she want him to grope her breast and try to expose it when they get to the nightclub. Look forward to you providing the link to that.

I'm not the assuming to know what was going between them. You are.

 

[TW Sherrin]

Craig McRae seems to be a wonderful man but hearing him say (on SEN) he had to check on all the female staff at Collingwood to see how they were handling the Bali beat up had me numb with disbelief.

Once again, I have to ask, Craig. Did you check up on the male staff to see how they were after the three Collingwood AFLW girls rated men?

What have we become?

People being emotionally scarred by some cheeky flirtation between two consenting adults.

Our society is losing the plot. Tonight male players are raising millions of dollars for a female specific cancer and have done for years

The AFL has set up and supplemented the women's competition to the tune of tens of millions of dollars. Not a word of thanks from women to men. Generic thanks to the AFL but no acknowledgement of the endless generosity of men in all of these actions

Our men's teams have fully supported and embraced their female counterparts and some have actively coached and assisted the women's team.

All of this is ignored

One young bloke flirts with a consenting girl and all week it's a barrage of negative, demonizing headlines about male attitudes to women and the out of control misogyny in our football community.

That's how it works.

Hate and negativity sells papers and gets clicks and our club feeds into it.

I don't see things changing sadly.

Every female in my family can't believe the beat up. And they are dogs and tigers supporters

 

[sideswipe]

Good luck to you sideswipe, you come across as somebody who definitely looks internally for improvements first, rather than externally for blame.

Hard to look internally. When I scratch the surface all I find is more surface.

I’m not the one making guesses and future projections on a bloke’s wealth. Based on nothing.


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[TW Sherrin]

If I was De Goey I would go to GWS

Great fit for him……..no stalkers there.

If Brisbane lose Neal they'll be cashed up and an off the radar location.

 

[FAIRANDBALANCED]

Hard to look internally. When I scratch the surface all I find is more surface.

I’m not the one making guesses and future projections on a bloke’s wealth. Based on nothing.


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I didn't think it was too far a stretch to predict DeGoey would not be able to find an 800k a year job at 35. But you're right, maybe he will. Good luck to him if he does.

 

[sr36]

I've heard that DeGoey does not surround himself with good influences. Enablers and sycophants. It seems they would be telling him what a lot of people here are saying, the club didn't stand by you, you did nothing wrong, they didn't suspend you because they just want you to play but don't care about you. There are a dozen other negative thoughts that could be going through his mind that are not being helped by these kinds of people.

Jordy speaks as if he has a growth mind set, but really the guy comes across as if underneath it all he is blaming others for his own bad decisions. This is not helped by the people around him.

The funny thing is, the people around him are the ones that did the video and posted it. They are the ones that are having a negative influence on his growth, just as so often happens. It'll be likely he will realise this when his fame dissipates and his money dwindles and he is a pretty regular 35 year old guy, wondering who his true friends really are.

I'd be ok if he didn't play again for us and left at the end of the year as this would show the kind of character he is. Blame the club for his own mistakes, likely influenced by the voices around him.

Even though the video wasn't "suspension worthy" and was a media driven controversy, he still decided to put himself in a situation where a controversy could happen. A person with common sense would come to that conclusion.

If he takes responsibility, comes back to the club and signs back on, we might finally have evidence of him growing.

To those still annoyed that he has been wronged, you can only control your actions. You need to analyse them to see if you could have made better choices. Hopefully that's what Jordy is doing at the moment.

I just hope he's surrounded himself with people who share the same pragmatic values as the football club and tell him to just lie to the world and claim he was despicable and thank the media for pointing out his sins. I hope no-one around him is encouraging him to be ethical, as I want to see him playing footy ASAP.

 

[sideswipe]

I didn't think it was too far a stretch to predict DeGoey would not be able to find an 800k a year job at 35. But you're right, maybe he will. Good luck to him if he does.

No - you wrote that his money would dissipate.


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[KinderSmock]

Elite by Damian Barrett this morning. Starting to wonder whether he went to Bali over the bye weeks.

 

[FAIRANDBALANCED]

I just hope he's surrounded himself with people who share the same pragmatic values as the football club and tell him to just lie to the world and claim he was despicable and thank the media for pointing out his sins. I hope no-one around him is encouraging him to be ethical, as I want to see him playing footy ASAP.

Honestly, the way some of you carry on his defence. What if he was the 35th man on the list? Would your defence be as staunch? Is your protection of him because of the way he plays footy or the person he is? Or is it because he wears Collingwood colours?

Hypocrit, I believe is the word.

 

[FAIRANDBALANCED]

No - you wrote that his money would dissipate.


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Dwindle, is that better?

 

[Seedsfan]

Elite by Damian Barrett this morning. Starting to wonder whether he went to Bali over the bye weeks. View attachment 1431053

**** because that’s a win for the club lose DeGoey and get McStay

 

[sideswipe]

Dwindle, is that better?

Either way it is your imagination about a bloke’s wealth. Based on what? You have over-extended your agenda.


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[Gone Critical]

That's the kind of thinking thats suggests DeGoey has no control. He does. He chose the trip, the friends to surround himself on that trip and also chose to drink and then to get himself caught on video doing things that any sane person would deduce that some would take offence to. Should they take offence? No. Is DeGoey and his friends and managers silly for realising they would? Yes.

Nah Jordy had complete control and i have seen nothing that tells me he did anything wrong. The only person who really knows has come out strongly saying she has no issue with the night. I am astounded by all the people who insist thats not the case and she is wrong based on a short video and a couple of snaps.

World gone mad and a real case of a womans opinion being disregarded despite being the most qualified to speak. Yeah we have come a long way.

Can you explain why you dont believe Remys version?

 

[Markfs]

I just hope he's surrounded himself with people who share the same pragmatic values as the football club and tell him to just lie to the world and claim he was despicable and thank the media for pointing out his sins. I hope no-one around him is encouraging him to be ethical, as I want to see him playing footy ASAP.

i just hope he surrounds himself with people who dont post on BF.

 

[sr36]

Honestly, the way some of you carry on his defence. What if he was the 35th man on the list? Would your defence be as staunch? Is your protection of him because of the way he plays footy or the person he is? Or is it because he wears Collingwood colours?

Hypocrit, I believe is the word.

Assume all you like. I'd suggest the hypocrisy on this one is the club talking about being values driven in this regard as they go into disnigenuous appeasement mode and the media talking about JDG objectifying and being disrespectful to Remy, as they broadcast close ups of her breasts hoping to titillate us all and incite a scandal.

I wasn't defending JDG in the post I quoted - like everyone other than Jordy and Remy, I have no idea if he did anything wrong. I was criticising the media and Collingwood. I view this as much bigger than just Jordy or Collingwood, but it does sure as hell piss me off that this warped corporate pandering to the squeaky wheel that sets up their own kangaroo courtts is resulting in us not seeing JDG play footy this week.

 

[FAIRANDBALANCED]

Nah Jordy had complete control and i have seen nothing that tells me he did anything wrong. The only person who really knows has come out strongly saying she has no issue with the night. I am astounded by all the people who insist thats not the case and she is wrong based on a short video and a couple of snaps.

World gone mad and a real case of a womans opinion being disregarded despite being the most qualified to speak. Yeah we have come a long way.

Can you explain why you dont believe Remys version?

I do believe Remy's point of view and I agree with most of what you have said. What I dont agree with is Jordy not being able to figure out a video with him grabbing at a girls top would not spark controversy given his history and then, a day after what Kane Cornes said in the media.

I mean sure, we could blame his amateur-hour-step-brother-agent for not making sure his partying was kept to he and his friends, but Jordy surely had some small nagging thought that it wouldn't be a good look. I'm not saying it is a terrible offence, I'm saying he has to take responsibility for not realising the media are vultures and would jump on it. It's not like he hasn't experienced it before.

 

[FAIRANDBALANCED]

Assume all you like. I'd suggest the hypocrisy on this one is the club talking about being values driven in this regard as they go into disnigenuous appeasement mode and the media talking about JDG objectifying and being disrespectful to Remy, as they broadcast close ups of her breasts hoping to titillate us all and incite a scandal.

I view this as much bigger than just Jordy or Collingwood, but it does sure as hell piss me off that this warped corporate pandering to the squeaky wheel is resulting in us not seeing JDG play footy this week.

Hmm. I do agree with everything you have said. Where does that put Collingwood if they just stick up for Jordy? They would have another fortnight of putting out media fires. It's not right, but we know it's reality.

 

[Seedsfan]

Hmm. I do agree with everything you have said. Where does that put Collingwood if they just stick up for Jordy? They would have another fortnight of putting out media fires. It's not right, but we know it's reality.

If they came out and defended him on Saturday they would have stopped this from getting so big as it just snowballed as the media waited and waited for the club to speak

 

[sr36]

Hmm. I do agree with everything you have said. Where does that put Collingwood if they just stick up for Jordy? They would have another fortnight of putting out media fires. It's not right, but we know it's reality.

The Club ****ed their chance to change the conversation. The Hun jumped the shark big time with IQ and Ginnivan as a front page lead. Can't believe they didn't get on the front foot then. We're not even a for profit company FFS and any blowback will blow over quickly.

 

[MyManLynch]

Hmm. I do agree with everything you have said. Where does that put Collingwood if they just stick up for Jordy? They would have another fortnight of putting out media fires. It's not right, but we know it's reality.

If the Club was media shy (concerned about negative backlash) & afraid to criticise the over the top media pile on, then I would hope they come out at a later date & address their concerns of young men being bullied by the media…I bet they don’t.

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

Elite by Damian Barrett this morning. Starting to wonder whether he went to Bali over the bye weeks. View attachment 1431053

No issue with JDG departing provided we can also get another mid in from another club. Dunkley?

 

[frizzle]

Nah Jordy had complete control and i have seen nothing that tells me he did anything wrong. The only person who really knows has come out strongly saying she has no issue with the night. I am astounded by all the people who insist thats not the case and she is wrong based on a short video and a couple of snaps.

World gone mad and a real case of a womans opinion being disregarded despite being the most qualified to speak. Yeah we have come a long way.

Can you explain why you dont believe Remys version?

This is the way it should be GC, but it isn't in today's world unfortunately. The media have both De Goey & Ginnivan in their gun sights constantly.
Ginnivan had nothing to apologise for as the rate game had been done by thousands without any outcry until he did it.
De Goey doing silly oral sex imitation things while he knows he is being filmed is really dumb. Especially after his last post season furore.
Sure there is a complete overaction here, but Jordy should have avoided it all in the first place with just a little common sense.

 

[FAIRANDBALANCED]

The Club ducked their chance to change the conversation. The Hun jumped the shark big time with IQ and Ginnivan as a front page lead. Can't believe they didn't get on the front foot then. We're not even a for profit company FFS and any blowback will blow over quickly.

You think the blowback about something Collingwood has done, like stick up for the alleged womaniser DeGoey, would blow over quickly?

We would be hearing about it for 30 years as we have Winmar at Vic Park.

Specifics of the situation would be forgotten and the narrative, peddled by the media, would be we stuck up for the blokey DeGoey over respecting women.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

I'm not the assuming to know what was going between them. You are.

I visualise molly with the video on repeat, freeze framing and noting every De Goey gesture and movement. Seems pretty pointless if you think of the relationship as consensual rather than believing permission needs to be sought for each individual act between them. Perhaps that's how sex will eventually be played out between continually consenting couples, but for now these two seem comfortable in each other's company.

 

[domus]

Honestly, the way some of you carry on his defence. What if he was the 35th man on the list? Would your defence be as staunch? Is your protection of him because of the way he plays footy or the person he is? Or is it because he wears Collingwood colours?

Hypocrit, I believe is the word.

Defense? Of what? If he was the Collingwood bootstudder I'd be just as outraged with his treatment. It has been nothing but a media hyped attack on a perfect "bad boy" target to sell papers and get clicks. Nothing more or less