List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 5

[Barunga Bullet]

treloar shiel greene adams cerra along with some lesser players like narkle and tyson were all 'locked in done deal' at some point. pretty sure we were also certain to get dunkley at one point. and i know im missing a few, but cant think of them off the top of my head. the only 2 big recruits we've got done (prestia and lynch) have been pretty public knowledge a year out.

i dont with T71 any ill, but i dont get why they can get on here and complain about criticism on where given the track record of trade 'locks' on here and the absolute meme that the doozy has become.

would love to see where these guys were considered a lock apart from Treloar, and as he know the club was told it was done only for the pies to up their offer at the last minute. Just because a name gets mentioned doesn't mean they are a lock.

 

[richo's dodgy hammy]

Yeah the only ones I distinctly remember missing out on and being very close to done deals are Treloar and someone from Port I can’t remember who it was off the top of my head but I remember they had completed a medical and everything

Not 100% sure, but think it may have been Hamish Hartlett.
If so bullet dodged I say.

 

[fargothegreat]

How many targets have we legitimately chaced since Lynch

A bunch of mids mainly. Off the top of my head I can think of Zak Jones, Cerra, Hopper, Tom Green, Perryman. Missed on all because they either stayed with their club or we got outbid because we've had a very tight cap.

 

[fargothegreat]

Not 100% sure, but think it may have been Hamish Hartlett.
If so bullet dodged I say.

Hartlett was the same year as Prestia from memory.

 

[tunksy]

Hartlett was the same year as Prestia from memory.

he decided to stay, port wanted to dump his salary.

they also wanted to off load lobb as he was on big big bucks

 

[tunksy]

A bunch of mids mainly. Off the top of my head I can think of Zak Jones, Cerra, Hopper, Tom Green, Perryman. Missed on all because they either stayed with their club or we got outbid because we've had a very tight cap.

zak jones, brad crouch were the two main ones we were after, we were only offering mid-range salary so were outbid early. definitely for the best i reckon.

don't think anything concrete (media etc.) has been said that we were actively after tom green. seems to all be romance on here with him.

 

[beema limapep]

would love to see where these guys were considered a lock apart from Treloar, and as he know the club was told it was done only for the pies to up their offer at the last minute. Just because a name gets mentioned doesn't mean they are a lock.

Exactly. Apart from Trelol who did us dirty, he never said they were locks to my recollection. At best they were 50/50 or highly likely at the time it's reported.. Things also change in between weekly updates dramatically.

People just assume players are locks which is entirely different to 50/50 or probables. And that's a failure on them to grasp a basic understanding of language.

 

[beema limapep]

treloar shiel greene adams cerra along with some lesser players like narkle and tyson were all 'locked in done deal' at some point. pretty sure we were also certain to get dunkley at one point. and i know im missing a few, but cant think of them off the top of my head. the only 2 big recruits we've got done (prestia and lynch) have been pretty public knowledge a year out.

i dont with T71 any ill, but i dont get why they can get on here and complain about criticism on where given the track record of trade 'locks' on here and the absolute meme that the doozy has become.

They weren't 'locks' They were possibles or probables at that time of being reported. Big difference.

Things also change very rapidly in that space with counter offers priority changes and the like.

Learn how to language.

 

[All Aust]

With Ludes and Ellis being the only senior players who wanted out, mutual agreements, then our trade balance sheet and thus club culture is pretty decent if not the best.

 

[Roksman]

Crows sniffing around Sam Weideman

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Sam Weideman

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27

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197cm

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99kg

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9.6

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4.9

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3.7

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1.0

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7.0

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4.3

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2.8

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3.8

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0.5

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1.8

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9.2

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3.6

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5.6

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3.2

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, which could possibly suggest Fogarty is out the door?

Where is this being reported? Haven't seen anything myself.

EDIT: Found it

"Another name to watch is Demons swingman Sam Weideman, he's been in and out of Melbourne's team all season," Doropoulos added.

"He's contracted until the end of next year, then he will become a restricted free agent.

"The Crows have the capacity to use the versatile 25-year-old at either end of the ground. But he is lower on the list of priorities at this stage."

Adelaide chasing Fremantle defender Brennan Cox, Demon Sam Weideman also linked: AFL trade news

An in-form Docker is reportedly set to have his "loyalty tested" again this year.

www.zerohanger.com

 

[theyellowsash]

I know for a fact Riewoldt and Cotchin renegotiated their contracts and took under's to keep the team together.

thats public knowledge. but collingwood were handing out big contracts left right and centre, and offered grundy the 1 million. its not greedy for him to accept that. its just collingwoods bad financial management.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Jury is still out, alot of close wins year 1 could go backwards next year or could be a good team too early to call.. I actually don't mind the pies and respect them as a club

I respect em more than Geelong.

 

[Bojangles17]

A bunch of mids mainly. Off the top of my head I can think of Zak Jones, Cerra, Hopper, Tom Green, Perryman. Missed on all because they either stayed with their club or we got outbid because we've had a very tight cap.

Tom green , says who , BF , in fact the only public chases were jones and cerra . I haven’t lost much sleep on either

 

[fargothegreat]

Tom green , says who , BF , in fact the only public chases were jones and cerra . I haven’t lost much sleep on either

It's been widely reported that we've been constantly trying to get Tom Green. The only one that wasn't reported in the media was Perryman.

I forgot Crouch also.

 

[fargothegreat]

With quite a few clubs looking at Dunkley, why aren't we?

 

[tiger_tough]

Why Rioli to Richmond “makes a lot of sense” to Hasleby

He is yet to sign on with the Eagles.

www.sen.com.au

 

[Groupie_]

west coke board think they are getting pick 19 off us for willie rioli

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Willie Rioli

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29

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175cm

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78kg

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12.0

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4.1

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3.3

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2.8

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1.2

4star

No current season stats available

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11.0

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7.4

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3.6

3star

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3.0

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1.8

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0.6

3star

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

west coke board think they are getting pick 19 off us for willie rioli

I'd do it.
For pick 2.

 

[Ctl]

west coke board think they are getting pick 19 off us for willie rioli

same board that thought baker would only be worth a second rounder

 

[beema limapep]

west coke board think they are getting pick 19 off us for willie rioli

Pick 19 for Wioli and their 2nd rounder (pick 20)

 

[Mr Magic]

I think some need to digest this list situation.

Baker 24

Balta 22

Banks 19

Bauer 20

Bolton 23

Brown 19

Clarke 18

Cumberland 21

Dow 20

Gibcus 19

Graham 24

Miller 21

MRJ 19

Nyuon 21

Ralphsmith 20

RCD 21

Ross 21

Ryan 21

Stack 22

That is 19 guys that have shown something at different times age 24 and under.

The future and long term is looking very bright I think, and I see a pretty wide window ahead

If we are winning premierships now and the short term that is just a bonus

 

[Karp3_dm]

I think some need to digest this list situation.

Baker 24

Balta 22

Banks 19

Bauer 20

Bolton 23

Brown 19

Clarke 18

Cumberland 21

Dow 20

Gibcus 19

Graham 24

Miller 21

MRJ 19

Nyuon 21

Ralphsmith 20

RCD 21

Ross 21

Ryan 21

Stack 22

That is 19 guys that have shown something at different times age 24 and under.

The future and long term is looking very bright I think, and I see a pretty wide window ahead

If we are winning premierships now and the short term that is just a bonus

 

[theyellowsash]

They weren't 'locks' They were possibles or probables at that time of being reported. Big difference.

Things also change very rapidly in that space with counter offers priority changes and the like.

Learn how to language.

lol, im not going to go back through 5-10 years of threads, but all of those players were frequently touted as being lock and already signed on to come to the club by people on this forum. dont rw-write history just to make this board look less pathetically unreliable than it is.

funnily enough, you want to know who has been correct with all the 'inside mail' about players coming to and leaving the club? the media. im not going to believe taranto is coming to the club until the media reports it as a certainty.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

It's been widely reported that we've been constantly trying to get Tom Green. The only one that wasn't reported in the media was Perryman.

I forgot Crouch also.

Haha, classic media-ese for "I'm taking a wild guess here based on what I've scrolled through in the comments section on Facebook".

Right up there with:
"It is my understanding that ..."
"I'm led to believe that ..."
"My sources tell me that ...."
"Speculation surrounds ..."
etc.

 

[Coach_Required]

So Willie Rioli

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Willie Rioli

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

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12.0

3star

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8.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

11.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.6

3star

is out of contract? So what happens there? Forcing us to trade by matching our offer if we even make one?

3rd round pick it is.