Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Optimistic Dog]

The list of possible departures either club or player initiated = 14


Wallis
Dunkley
Hunter
Martin
Crozier
Cordy
Schache
West
Butler
Parker
Hannan
R Smith
Sweet
JJ
I think Keath and O'Brien have contracts so I have not included them.

Martin the only certain retirement I believe Mitch will get another contract.
Butler and Parker would be a pretty certain delist.
Schache will be a delist or trade for a late 3rd rounder at best.

That would leave Dunkley and JJ who will probably go and some the others to go.

 

[dergert]

Stevo going with Dunks leaving

 

[Doggy]

Stevo going with Dunks leaving

He may be right but he's also got alot wrong.

Dunkley would be an idiot to go to Port for a number of reasons. If he does we know how smart he really is

 

[Sentinel]

He may be right but he's also got alot wrong.

Dunkley would be an idiot to go to Port for a number of reasons. If he does we know how smart he really is

Why?

 

[Doggy]

Why?

The money is comparable apparently... that's what seems to be motivating him and Beveridge hinted at that as well

His partner is also unlikely to be in SA beyond July or August next year

So what's the point?

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Can’t believe I’m saying this but, if we can get some sort of synchronisation out of Darcy, Marra and Lobb inside fwd 50 going in to next season, I’d be open to sending Naughton down back.

Have been pretty vocal against it previously but it would solve a lot of our issues. Particularly if we can’t get an A Grade defender in the off season.

Def:
Naughts
Jones
Gardiner/Keath

Fwd:
Lobb
Marra
Darcy

Our fwd half pressure game would need to be better than it has been, with so many tall players that aren’t very good at ground level (Naughts would be missed for this), and our setup/entries would need improvement also.

Just spitballing, but we need to do something to strengthen our backline and to also navigate our way through having so many key fwd options.

 

[Doggy]

Apparently Jon Ralph running with West leaving too.

If this is true we are ******* on all lines

 

[dergert]

Apparently Jon Ralph running with West leaving too.

We just knew this would happen.

If it comes to fruition, shame on the club.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

How much of journalists’ “information” comes from forums like this, or are the managers or clubs blabbing?

 

[Foxman98]

Whilst losing Dunkley would be a big loss especially with his form over the last couple of weeks I can't help but think it may be a blessing for us. On paper we have an exceptional midfield however how many times do we see it dominated by inferior opponents and have them walk out of the middle, For me they just don't gel or cover each others weaknesses or bring out each others strengths. Look at Melbourne Oliver/Petracca rack up the ball inside and out whilst Viney/Brayshaw cover the defensive side and hold their whilst always working hard to get their own ball. We don't have that, Libba is very good in and under but is terrible at holding his position, Bont/Macrae/Dunkley are always following their man in giving them a free run through the contest, Treloar has gone off this year looks a lot slower and not quite there between the ears for me, Baz has gone a mile backwards after a decent start to the year and needs to work on his defensive pressure more than his kicking. Overall I feel like what is supposedly our biggest strength has become our biggest weakness and needs a bit of a shuffle around and a few newer faces to come in and even it up more.

 

[Optimistic Dog]

Can’t believe I’m saying this but, if we can get some sort of synchronisation out of Darcy, Marra and Lobb inside fwd 50 going in to next season, I’d be open to sending Naughton down back.

Have been pretty vocal against it previously but it would solve a lot of our issues. Particularly if we can’t get an A Grade defender in the off season.

Def:
Naughts
Jones
Gardiner/Keath

Fwd:
Lobb
Marra
Darcy

Our fwd half pressure game would need to be better than it has been, with so many tall players that aren’t very good at ground level (Naughts would be missed for this), and our setup/entries would need improvement also.

Just spitballing, but we need to do something to strengthen our backline and to also navigate our way through having so many key fwd options.

You have taken awhile but to come around but like I been have saying Naughts, Jones and Keath/Gardner plus maybe Buku turns a weakness into a strength.

 

[Foxman98]

If this is true we are ******* on all lines

No he's not. Click bait headline he saying they're all out of contract

 

[doggies ftw]

Dude if we ****ing lose West I am going to be absolutely ropable, that would be genuinely unforgivable

 

[Bald]

If this is true we are ******* on all lines

I’ve read the article now. He makes no mention of west leaving. Him saying he’s “out” is in reference to him simply being out of contract. Apologies. Have deleted my initial post.

 

[Dog 36]

Whilst losing Dunkley would be a big loss especially with his form over the last couple of weeks I can't help but think it may be a blessing for us. On paper we have an exceptional midfield however how many times do we see it dominated by inferior opponents and have them walk out of the middle, For me they just don't gel or cover each others weaknesses or bring out each others strengths. Look at Melbourne Oliver/Petracca rack up the ball inside and out whilst Viney/Brayshaw cover the defensive side and hold their whilst always working hard to get their own ball. We don't have that, Libba is very good in and under but is terrible at holding his position, Bont/Macrae/Dunkley are always following their man in giving them a free run through the contest, Treloar has gone off this year looks a lot slower and not quite there between the ears for me, Baz has gone a mile backwards after a decent start to the year and needs to work on his defensive pressure more than his kicking. Overall I feel like what is supposedly our biggest strength has become our biggest weakness and needs a bit of a shuffle around and a few newer faces to come in and even it up more.

Agree but add we need to support the midfield players with a decent Assistant or two who can show them a way forward in areas you have mentioned plus an addition of another midfielder.

Individually the players are great collectively something is amiss.

 

[Dog 36]

Stevo going with Dunks leaving

Where did you hear or see that?

 

[Doggy]

Where did you hear or see that?

Twitter

 

[Foxman98]

Agree but add we need to support the midfield players with a decent Assistant or two who can show them a way forward in areas you have mentioned plus an addition of another midfielder.

Individually the players are great collectively something is amiss.

100% our assistants are an issue but for me they seem like a "team of champions and not a champion team"

 

[doggies ftw]

I’ve read the article now. He makes no mention of west leaving. Him saying he’s “out” is in reference to him simply being out of contract. Apologies. Have deleted my initial post.

He’s obviously at the very least weighing up his options, pretty rare for a fringe player to be unsigned at this stage if he’s staying.

He’d be stupid to stay if he had other offers to be honest

 

[Dog 36]

100% our assistants are an issue but for me they seem like a "team of champions and not a champion team"

yippee we agree on something.

Promise I wont mention Sweet, I think I mentioned it once but I got away with it.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

You have taken awhile but to come around but like I been have saying Naughts, Jones and Keath/Gardner plus maybe Buku turns a weakness into a strength.

Not completely sold yet. We’d need to be confident we can get a 100+ goal season from the 3 others before we pull the trigger.

The issue with moving him back prior to next season is that it would’ve left a massive void in our fwd line.
2020, with Bruce’s poor year, we’d have been far too weak without Naughton in there. Last year would’ve only been Bruce with a young Marra. This year it would’ve just been Marra.

Now we’ve got genuine options, it’s definitely something the club should consider.

 

[Foxman98]

yippee we agree on something.

Promise I wont mention Sweet, I think I mentioned it once but I got away with it.

Look the ruck is becoming an issue with Tim, If you could combine him and Sweet it would be a much better player but the problem is they both have major flaws in their games. Sweet needs to get his tank up so he can be the bruiser type who gets the pill like a Hickey or Nankervis and if he does that he will go past English. English for me would not want to have another failure in a final again

 

[Optimistic Dog]

I guess if Rhylee West

14

Rhylee West

Age

24

Ht

183cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.5

3star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

5.6

3star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.6

3star

goes we are no chance of getting Levi when is eligible for father/son. However by that time Bevo maybe gone I think there is not much love between Scott and Bevo.

 

[Doggy]

I guess if Rhylee West goes we are no chance of getting Levi when is eligible for father/son. However by that time Bevo maybe gone I think there is not much love between Scott and Bevo.

So much guessing in this. Scott West has been involved plenty with the club this year

 

[Northernsoul74]

A mate told me tonight dunks is close to signing a 6 years deal with us..

Take it as you may

Did he read it here?