List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion - 2022 Off Season Edition

[Keys]

Contract status of all players now fully updated

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[KERRPOW]

The AFL has made a major shift in player trading this year, officially allowing clubs to “salary dump”, or trade out players on big contracts for minimal draft return.

Such deals would previously have been blocked by the AFL. The change will allow clubs to more easily get a player’s contract off their books to ease the strain on their salary caps.

The AFL is in the process of informing all clubs of the change in policy which will see clubs able to trade out players on large contracts for minimal draft pick return as long as the other clubs takes over the player’s contract.

Clubs also have the option to do things like bundling an attractive early draft pick with a highly paid player in a trade for just a lowly pick as a way of getting the player’s salary off the books.

Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

A major policy change, allowing clubs to more easily dump the salaries of big-money players, could ignite next month’s AFL trade period.

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Gaff + amon compensation pick to anyone.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

If you could have either Jeremy Sharp for pick 38 or Dev Robertson for pick 26 which one would you prefer?

 

[Shueygod]

Gaff + amon compensation pick to anyone.

Why would be in that big a rush that we’d pay to get the contract off books?

 

[Shueygod]

If you could have either Jeremy Sharp for pick 38 or Dev Robertson for pick 26 which one would you prefer?

Sharp easily, Robertson is not worth 26.

 

[THE A5]

If you could have either Jeremy Sharp for pick 38 or Dev Robertson for pick 26 which one would you prefer?

Sharp. It cause it means we will have to address more inside type mids at the draft

 

[dajesmac]

I think Culley is far from vanilla, Robertson could be a good inside mid and with Kelly, Chesser and Hough (plus this year's pick), there's plenty to work with there.

Meant more the overall mix of attributes. Not a lot of leg speed in that mix and probably only one in Culley who is an above average ball user by foot.

I was separating Chesser and Hough but if one or both became actual on ballers that would help a lot.

 

[Forward Press]

Why haven’t there been any delistings announced yet? The post season bloodlust must be satiated.

Here's an exclusive list of players that are candidates for being delisted.

West Coast Eagles Football Club Player List

West Coast Eagles full AFL playing list and stats.

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[Keys]

Tucker joining Logue in asking for a trade to North

The two compensation picks North received yesterday for both would go close you’d think

 

[Dark Sharks]

If you could have either Jeremy Sharp for pick 38 or Dev Robertson for pick 26 which one would you prefer?

Sharp.

But the answer is actually both.



I'd pony up 26 for Devon, given it'll likely be pushed back a few picks and be closer to 30. Big boy Rohans track record with second rounders isn't anything to brag about. Devon at worst projects as a role player who can do a job, his form in the VFL suggests he's going to be too good for the seconds.

He's not exactly going to get worse. Right now he's on the fringes of AFL level, with plenty to improve in his game.


We paid 28 for XON and he hardly dominates WAFL and likely has 1 more year on the list before he's punted.
31 for Foley, who's played 25 odd games and is in a similar boat. He was so bad at times this year.
32 for Ainsworth.....



I'm all for taking picks and finding some good players from the second round onwards, but Robertson fits the age profile we're horribly lacking, and still has so much improvement in him. I'd take the semi known quantity.

 

[Shueygod]

Sharp.

But the answer is actually both.



I'd pony up 26 for Devon, given it'll likely be pushed back a few picks and be closer to 30. Big boy Rohans track record with second rounders isn't anything to brag about. Devon at worst projects as a role player who can do a job, his form in the VFL suggests he's going to be too good for the seconds.

He's not exactly going to get worse. Right now he's on the fringes of AFL level, with plenty to improve in his game.


We paid 28 for XON and he hardly dominates WAFL and likely has 1 more year on the list before he's punted.
31 for Foley, who's played 25 odd games and is in a similar boat. He was so bad at times this year.
32 for Ainsworth.....



I'm all for taking picks and finding some good players from the second round onwards, but Robertson fits the age profile we're horribly lacking, and still has so much improvement in him. I'd take the semi known quantity.

O’Neil has shown far more at AFL level than Dev. There’s one year between them.

Ones worth 26 and the other is close to off a list?

Make it make sense.

 

[Dark Sharks]

O’Neil has shown far more at AFL level than Dev. There’s one year between them.

Ones worth 26 and the other is close to off a list?

Make it make sense.

I'd pony up 26 for Devon, given it'll likely be pushed back a few picks and be closer to 30. Big boy Rohans track record with second rounders isn't anything to brag about. Devon at worst projects as a role player who can do a job, his form in the VFL suggests he's going to be too good for the seconds.

He's not exactly going to get worse. Right now he's on the fringes of AFL level, with plenty to improve in his game.


We paid 28 for XON and he hardly dominates WAFL and likely has 1 more year on the list before he's punted.
31 for Foley, who's played 25 odd games and is in a similar boat. He was so bad at times this year.
32 for Ainsworth.....

Devon averages 24 disposals almost 7 tackles and over a goal a game.

XON 23, 2.6 tackles, and 0.2 goals a game for the Beagles.

He's also had an entire year in the AFL system longer than Dev. If Dev tracked the same way again in 2023 and he was on the table, i wouldn't be offering a second rounder that's for sure. Would be expecting a fair increase in his output in his first year on our list (4th of AFL).

 

[TerryFilk]

If you could have either Jeremy Sharp for pick 38 or Dev Robertson for pick 26 which one would you prefer?

Sharp, he’s more versatile and if we draft D Rob our midfield will be filled with even more one dimensional players who have no idea how to actually use the footy

I’m not big on either though, I don’t get why everyone seems so keen to throw away good picks for mediocre players just because they are from WA.

 

[kylealone]

Pick 20 for Dev Robertson and Pick 44 interest anyone? Would mean Robertson was essentially valued at around pick 34.

We would then have selections 2,26,38,44.

Would then on trade 44 for Meek + future 4th

Dev, Meek + future 4th for pick 20.

Who would say no and why?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

32 players contracted
34 if you include Redden and Hurn who’s extensions haven’t been officially announced by the club but are widely expected to be done, if they haven’t already without an announcement

In the absence of any trade requests from contracted players that leaves 8 spots to be filled by trading in someone, the draft and any of the following 8 uncontracted players :

Nelson
Witherden
Winder
Trew
West
Naish
Dixon
Joyce

With 4 picks in the top 40 (plus a 5th potentially from the Rioli trade) and assuming we use a couple of rookie draft/SSP selections only 1 maybe 2 of that list survive.

Pick your poison

Ooof no wonder we re-signed Hurn/Shuey/Redden, there's so much dead wood to shift that we can't delist all the spuds AND the veterans in one hit. I'm struggling to come up with good reasons to keep anyone on this list.

Easiest to delist is Joyce. But then it's pretty much pull names out of a hat.

 

[Schtinker]

This thread is the pits - sums up where the club is at

We should be discussing exciting new potential players that we are connected with

Isn't that what this thread is for.

List Mgmt. - Christmas comes early (Nov 28 - 19 sleeps) - Draftee discussion

Link to draft picks held by each club

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[Obeanie1]

Clark and the club both have come to agreement that trade is best for both going forward. Saints aren’t happy with Clark’s attitude during injury lay off and Clark also now happy to move on after receiving the negative feedback. Not sure that North are the only club Saints and Clarke are looking at a trade with but he wants to stay in Victoria.

Post about Hunter Clark at the Saints.

Looks like the Saints dont stuff around. Not that they have been shown to be great list managers.

 

[FKASC]

Deven Ebert

 

[Shueygod]

Devon averages 24 disposals almost 7 tackles and over a goal a game.

XON 23, 2.6 tackles, and 0.2 goals a game for the Beagles.

He's also had an entire year in the AFL system longer than Dev. If Dev tracked the same way again in 2023 and he was on the table, i wouldn't be offering a second rounder that's for sure. Would be expecting a fair increase in his output in his first year on our list (4th of AFL).

I don’t care how O’Neil went as the only good player in our WAFL team, he has shown far more in the AFL than Robertson.

Better at winning the footy, defensively similar, and a better kick.

Similar size and O’Neil seems a bit quicker.

Pick 20 for Dev Robertson and Pick 44 interest anyone? Would mean Robertson was essentially valued at around pick 34.

We would then have selections 2,26,38,44.

Would then on trade 44 for Meek + future 4th

Dev, Meek + future 4th for pick 20.

Who would say no and why?

If we use 20 on two vanilla selections I’ll be furious.

There will be some serious talent available around that mark.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

I'm glad vanilla is back in vogue, was getting tired of INSIDE BULL.

 

[Shueygod]

Also please please please can we stop pretending like Meek is AFL level, he has a 35% hitout win rate at 24.

Traffic cone.

 

[Obeanie1]

Deven Robertson, Xavier O’Neill, Jai Culley, Luke Edwards, Greg Clark… even with Hough and Chesser on the wings were looking at a pretty vanilla future midfield mix.

I’m not arguing against getting Robertson but I wonder if with this in mind we are likely to favour speed/skill over pure midfield ability this draft as a result (eg Tsatas, Sheezel, Hewett vs Wardlaw, Clark)

Robertson and Culley feeding it out to Sheezel sounds like a plan.

Add Hotton and Darcy Jones on the outside kicking the ball inside 50 sounds pretty good.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Also please please please can we stop pretending like Meek is AFL level, he has a 35% hitout win rate at 24.

Traffic cone.

And YOU can count, on ME , waiting for YOU in the parking lot...

 

[Shueygod]

And YOU can count, on ME , waiting for YOU in the parking lot...


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All that muscle and can’t beat back up ruckman.

Traffic cone

 

[pantskyle]

Pick 20 for Dev Robertson and Pick 44 interest anyone? Would mean Robertson was essentially valued at around pick 34.

We would then have selections 2,26,38,44.

Would then on trade 44 for Meek + future 4th

Dev, Meek + future 4th for pick 20.

Who would say no and why?

Finally a worse Kyle on this board.

 

[JackOutback]

I don’t care how O’Neil went as the only good player in our WAFL team, he has shown far more in the AFL than Robertson.

Better at winning the footy, defensively similar, and a better kick.

Similar size and O’Neil seems a bit quicker.


If we use 20 on two vanilla selections I’ll be furious.

There will be some serious talent available around that mark.

O'Neill couldn't crack a spot in the team when we were hovering around finals, barely gets a look in when we are a rabble. Robertson actually performs in the seconds, just cracked a team that made it to the prelims and is a year younger. I'm pretty confident he's going to have the better career