Coach Who should be our next coach?

[Lore]

Spoiler: Timeline and reported candidates

15/8 Board toppled (reportedly will pursue Clarkson)
19/8 Alastair Clarkson to join North
21/8 Ben Rutten

Ben Rutten

Age

41

Ht

190cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.4

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.0

3star

sacked
22/8 Coach selection sub-committee to be established to find a replacement
26/8 Committee members announced: Josh Mahoney

Josh Mahoney

Age

47

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

(GM-Footy, chair), Dorothy Hisgrove (Board member), Andrew Thorburn, Simone McKinnis, Robert Walls, Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

38

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

7/9 James Hird, Dean Solomon

Dean Solomon

Age

44

Ht

189cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.5

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

17.6

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

2.8

5star

, Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

, Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

47

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

interviewed at EY
13/9 Daniel Giansiracusa

Daniel Giansiracusa

Age

42

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.6

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.0

4star

reportedly interviewed
17/9 Don Pyke “not pursuing that at this stage”
21/9 Brad Scott contacted by the club but won’t make a decision on whether to pursue the role until after the Grand Final
21/9 Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

47

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

has second interview and tours the training facilities at Tullamarine
22/9 Blake Caracella

Blake Caracella

Age

47

Ht

186cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.6

3star

will put his hat in the ring
27/9 Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

appointed as assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs, out of the running for Essendon job
28/9 Brad Scott to be interviewed on Thursday
29/9

 

[windyhill]

I want better players. Better Players make shit coaches look good.

 

[Phone]

Yze clearly only wants to coach Essendon to sabotage from within too. Still bitter from the 2000 granny.

you can't trust anyone these days. hell, i heard james hird only wants back in because his kid got axed and he wants revenge

 

[Maxabillions]

Quite bizarre.
To somehow suggest that Brad would walk away from his cushy well paying (I heard 700+k p.a) AFL house job to step back into coaching - to the what sabotage the club with the wrong interest and intentions? He would only get back into it if he is keen to coach.. and keen to win premierships! Which is all we can ask for really. Ridiculous to think there is some other ulterior motive.

Gil to Brad: There’s going to be a Tasmanian team and we want you to be it’s coach. But there will not be more than 18 teams. Here’s the keys to Essendon, you know what to do.

 

[bomberlegend2007]

Quite bizarre.
To somehow suggest that Brad would walk away from his cushy well paying (I heard 700+k p.a) AFL house job to step back into coaching - to the what sabotage the club with the wrong interest and intentions? He would only get back into it if he is keen to coach.. and keen to win premierships! Which is all we can ask for really. Ridiculous to think there is some other ulterior motive.

No, because you see, everyone is out to get Hird. Everyone has it out for Hird.

 

[Lore]

Im so relieved to here I’m not the only one to struggle peeling bananas. It’s harder than it looks.

You’re probably doing it upside down tbh

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

All this sobotage reminds me of Agent Rafa from epl. Those who don’t know Raul Benitez former Liverpool manager taking on Everton job to sabotage them …oh yes can clearly now …Agent Brad

 

[BomberFan355]

The end of this week can’t come quick enough.

 

[bananab3]

As I read things, Scott wants the job if it is given to him.

There is no reason for him to have sat on the fence publicly for this long.

I think he's using Caro to blow up the idea of Hird.

As I listen to Yze it is difficult to imagine him convincing a panel of anything.

A little different talking to a panel about everything football and media. All new coaches struggle with media. Take Rutten as an example

 

[Corleone]

Cool. Clearly haven't articulated myself well in my previous post.

Allow me to clarify; I do not want Brad Scott as our coach.

• I did not rate him when he was coach at North.
• I do not believe the narrative that he over performed with North's list as it was then.
• I do not believe he is qualified enough to bypass any part of our coaching selection process (Lyon shouldn't have been given this option either - nor was he as far as I can tell)
• I don't think he would be a double agent or anything like that ... However I can't see why his work at the AFL would invite anything but scorn tbh, and a recommendation from AFL house to me is meaningless.
• I think people see Scott's former antics in the box and equate that with passion and a "fire and brimstone" style coaching method that will instantly solve a lot of our problems ... I do not think this is what our players need, I think our players need a coach that's going to create a system and culture of accountability and leadership. I do not believe Brad has the ability to do this.

But hey .. what do I know! I'm just a nuffy who can't peel bananas properly and Caro's given him the thumbs up so ... Yeah .. go for it

 

[The Prosecutor]

I've managed to stumble on the application form for the job!

 

[ghostdog]

Cool. Clearly haven't articulated myself well in my previous post.

Allow me to clarify; I do not want Brad Scott as our coach.

• I did not rate him when he was coach at North.
• I do not believe the narrative that he over performed with North's list as it was then.
• I do not believe he is qualified enough to bypass any part of our coaching selection process (Lyon shouldn't have been given this option either - nor was he as far as I can tell)
• I don't think he would be a double agent or anything like that ... However I can't see why his work at the AFL would invite anything but scorn tbh, and a recommendation from AFL house to me is meaningless.
• I think people see Scott's former antics in the box and equate that with passion and a "fire and brimstone" style coaching method that will instantly solve a lot of our problems ... I do not think this is what our players need, I think our players need a coach that's going to create a system and culture of accountability and leadership. I do not believe Brad has the ability to do this.

But hey .. what do I know! I'm just a nuffy who can't peel bananas properly and Caro's given him the thumbs up so ... Yeah .. go for it

I don't think we can know whether or not he can create a system and culture of accountability, but I respect your opinion.

 

[BomberFan355]

But hey .. what do I know! I'm just a nuffy

 

[footyfanatic111]

Cool. Clearly haven't articulated myself well in my previous post.

Allow me to clarify; I do not want Brad Scott as our coach.

• I did not rate him when he was coach at North.
• I do not believe the narrative that he over performed with North's list as it was then.
• I do not believe he is qualified enough to bypass any part of our coaching selection process (Lyon shouldn't have been given this option either - nor was he as far as I can tell)
• I don't think he would be a double agent or anything like that ... However I can't see why his work at the AFL would invite anything but scorn tbh, and a recommendation from AFL house to me is meaningless.
• I think people see Scott's former antics in the box and equate that with passion and a "fire and brimstone" style coaching method that will instantly solve a lot of our problems ... I do not think this is what our players need, I think our players need a coach that's going to create a system and culture of accountability and leadership. I do not believe Brad has the ability to do this.

But hey .. what do I know! I'm just a nuffy who can't peel bananas properly and Caro's given him the thumbs up so ... Yeah .. go for it

Just curious, who would you like to coach Essendon then? Like number 1 option

 

[Corleone]

Just curious, who would you like to coach Essendon then? Like number 1 option

Whoever goes through the full process and is recommended to the board.

I know that's a lame answer, but the truth is as an outsider all we can really judge an assistant coach on is their CV at their previous clubs ... Their previous clubs have success? Oh well that must translate to us then ...

We got Rutten, Cara and other people from Richmond and people believed that because Richmond was successful and these guys were there when that happened that this success would transfer to us ... If we are honest it never even looked like it was going to happen did it?

We got Woosha and he was successful at WCE .. but then ...

Bomber was successful at Geelong but then ...

We need a coach who is going to develop leaders. Our list is so young and so bereft of anything resembling onfield leadership it's painful to watch them out there. Now, I don't know who that coach is, but I don't think it's Brad Scott.

 

[Blind Turn]

Luke Hodge is a waste of coaching potential sitting in a comfy media chair I reckon. Should’ve done a little apprenticeship and he’d now be first on my list. Seems astute, pretty much coached on the field, had heaps of team success, and has the recent champion status that would demand respect.

This, of course, is said with very little knowledge of how his credentials would stack up if churned through the process of appointing a coach, but on the surface… wasted…

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Can’t fathom people who are canning Brad Scott. He is clearly an incredible operator. Took an average side to two Prelim finals and has worked is way up to near the top of the AFL. Has heaps of experience in various forms, including his playing days, and has always presented very well in the media. Plus he shows passion, something we haven’t seen at Essendon for years.

 

[Howard Moon]

Can’t fathom people who are canning Brad Scott. He is clearly an incredible operator. Took an average side to two Prelim finals and has worked is way up to near the top of the AFL. Has heaps of experience in various forms, including his playing days, and has always presented very well in the media. Plus he shows passion, something we haven’t seen at Essendon for years.

You can say he took an average side to the prelims, but he nearly destroyed the club in doing so. Went all in trading for the now which in any even wasnt ever going any further than the prelim.

Perhaps many other coaches/teams/operators might have pulled the other lever with the future in mind.

 

[Corleone]

Can’t fathom people who are canning Brad Scott. He is clearly an incredible operator. Took an average side to two Prelim finals and has worked is way up to near the top of the AFL. Has heaps of experience in various forms, including his playing days, and has always presented very well in the media. Plus he shows passion, something we haven’t seen at Essendon for years.

As far as I'm aware he's had two adminstrative posts since being sacked from North, he was head of AFL Victoria for less than 2 years and put into a newly created role at AFL House overseeing umpiring and the MRO (amongst other things)

I wouldn't call this "working his way to the top" in fact from an outside perspective this looks like he was given two "jobs for mates" and I'm yet to see anything close to an achievement that can be attributed to his work in either of these roles.

 

[ant555]

Can’t fathom people who are canning Brad Scott. He is clearly an incredible operator. Took an average side to two Prelim finals and has worked is way up to near the top of the AFL. Has heaps of experience in various forms, including his playing days, and has always presented very well in the media. Plus he shows passion, something we haven’t seen at Essendon for years.

Ask the North supporters or some that where at North during his time.
Reports I have heard is it was not great and an absolute train wreck at the end when a rebuild was needed.
They made one more preliminary final under Scott than they did with Laidley and the never did a rebuild.
Personally I have zero confidence in his ability to do a rebuild given how North ended up.

 

[TheGrizz]

Ask the North supporters or some that where at North during his time.
Reports I have heard is it was not great and an absolute train wreck at the end when a rebuild was needed.
They made one more preliminary final under Scott than they did with Laidley and the never did a rebuild.
Personally I have zero confidence in his ability to do a rebuild given how North ended up.

This is my worry.
I remember Norf fans and pundits bemoaning the fact he seemed to play favourites and never drop players except the 21st and 22nd player selected regardless of form, leaving younger players well underdeveloped.

We had that with Woosha and that didn't really work out. Our coaching staff needs to be focused on development and a group that can bring a young group through and implement elite standards.

 

[jmoo wan]

i don’t like Brad Scott because he carried on like a peanut in the coaches box constantly.

if that is not a good enough reason to not want him as coach, he also introduced both the stand rule & the umpire dissent rule which are both dumb.

 

[BomberFan355]

Ask the North supporters or some that where at North during his time.
Reports I have heard is it was not great and an absolute train wreck at the end when a rebuild was needed.
They made one more preliminary final under Scott than they did with Laidley and the never did a rebuild.
Personally I have zero confidence in his ability to do a rebuild given how North ended up.

Who do you want as coach?

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Scott was in favour of a rebuild others at North were not

Vindicated by North’s crash: why clubs should look at Brad Scott

The events of 2020 and 2021 have vindicated Brad Scott’s judgement. North are in a much deeper rebuild and recession than would have been necessary two or three years ago.

amp.theage.com.au

 

[Howard Moon]

classic masterwork entitled 'nightdons'



now we just have to figure out what these knuckle heads are up to... and who is that with his back to us

 

[dank420_]

Some weird memories in this place.