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Thats why we got rid of Stanley and Hickey and kept Longer.
Ryder is one of the key reasons why we have even been close to success in the last 3 years.
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Thats why we got rid of Stanley and Hickey and kept Longer.
Ryder is one of the key reasons why we have even been close to success in the last 3 years.
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The Bowes option is worth the gamble imo. The only thing I’m a bit worried about is his temperament. I’ve heard from a reliable source he’s quite highly strung.
Fuark I hope the Grundy talk is just Bigfooty fluff.
Surely we can’t **** up that badly.
Surely we can’t **** up that badly.
I hear he has arrow like passes though.
Edmond was pretty certain Grundy was off to Melbourne this morning
talking about it TR right now. Saying Pies will have to stump up 300k + for him while still paying for Treloar, wow.
TR saying GCS is 2 million plus already over the SC for 2023
Wow, and they aren't even paying Bing 100%!
Imagine if the entire league was projected to be over the cap for next year, and all these massive contracts have nowhere else to go. What does the league do in that case?
Believe it or not a great discussion on TR. SoS saying that contracts are all structured differently, some have clauses that say they get an increase comparable to any TPP increase or a % of it.
So if the TPP increases by 10% a player may go from 800k to 880k without changing contracts.
So for example Bowes has 850k for the next two years backended. If he has a clause that his salary rises commensurate with the TPP (as the sweetener to backend the contract),and the TPP rises by 10% his 850k goes to 935k.
This would need to be taken into account by other clubs in that above case, plus any current contracts with those type of clauses.
Throw in the North, Brisbane and Essendon coach issues and this trade period is gunna be wild.
So if the TPP increases by 10% a player may go from 800k to 880k without changing contracts.
So for example Bowes has 850k for the next two years backended. If he has a clause that his salary rises commensurate with the TPP (as the sweetener to backend the contract),and the TPP rises by 10% his 850k goes to 935k.
This would need to be taken into account by other clubs in that above case, plus any current contracts with those type of clauses.
Throw in the North, Brisbane and Essendon coach issues and this trade period is gunna be wild.
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If Collingwood pay a big portion of his salary, then I don't see the issue with discussing it.
Would be a great backup, we have limited options if Marshall goes down.
Melbourne want him, so it doesn't look as silly an idea as you think.
I think Bowes can play, throw in the fact he comes with a first rounder and his money is only due over two years and I’m all for any play at him.
We’re not going to be contending for a premiership before 2025. Let’s bring some picks through the door ASAP
We’re not going to be contending for a premiership before 2025. Let’s bring some picks through the door ASAP
We just signed Marshall to a pretty significant deal.
Tying up a huge portion of your cap to two players who play the least flexible role on the ground screams stupidity.
Melbourne want him because he’s an upgrade on Jackson and structurally they think it works.
Time will tell, but I think they’re stupid for not addressing the holes in their list forward of centre.
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Rhys Stanley, Tom Hickey, Darcy Cameron and Oscar McInerney were the ruckman for the prelims lol
Calm down
Calm down
We wouldn't be bringing him in as a backup.
Even if Collingwood pay 300k your still looking at a 700k contract.
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Im not totally across the Bowes thing... is there actually a chance we get him and pick 7 for ben long and a second? or is that just typical trade thread dreamin... I feel gullible for even asking.
What's the realistic take on this?
What's the realistic take on this?
If it sounds to good to be true it probably is.
GCS are over the cap by 2 million for 2023 before even bringing in Long
We need to deal with GC over Long
We have the SC and we want another pick in the top ten.
So the talk has been we should be all over it with GC with trades thrown about with best case scenario being
Long for
Bowes and pick 7 if we take the full salary.
has been talk he only wants to go to Geelong but they are pretty stretched with cap and have others wanting to get there.
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I am confused by it as well particularly as the discussion seems to be that the reason Long wants to go to the Suns is principally big bucks.
Surely if their Salary cap is bursting at the seams they would not contemplate bringing someone in on any more than a basic wage.
You don't give up a top 10 pick to save a couple of hundred K on your salary cap.
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Melbourne are bringing him in as a backup, Gawn isn't retiring.
When I look at our list next year after all the retirements, I can't even fathom how we are even close to the salary cap.
I thought Gags was meant to come in and fix our overpaid and underdelivering list. Looks like he has created exactly what he took over.
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Sounds like Geelong are getting him.
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If the Bowes thing is as desribed it sounds like a great opportunity and I'd be OK with the investment if it means getting a pick on top.
Would much rather throw the money at that trade than at Grundy, that idea doesn't excite me at all.
Would much rather throw the money at that trade than at Grundy, that idea doesn't excite me at all.
No they aren't
They are bringing him in to play along Gawn, just like they did with Gawn/Jackson
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