List Mgmt. 2022 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals: Kinnear & Dalrymple - we march to no drum but our own!

[Ticky009]

 

[Tedeski]

We fly off the handle a bit round here, but if we traded out Bowes and 7 or Grundy and his salary for late 20s I'd be going bananas!!!

AFL trade news: Sydney’s Dan Hannebery traded to St Kilda

Premiership Swan returns home to Victoria in trade with Saints

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Things that are incompetent/corrupt:

1. 2016 GF umpiring
2. Swans trade ban
3. Gold Coast / Geelong dealings
4. Essendon

 

[caesar88]

Just from what I have seen, clear top two(ish) then next six, then next 14/15 or so. After that really is hard. Will be some bargains in 50s with hindsight.

IMO, draft class as it stands:

1. Ashcroft
2. Wardlaw (equal to Ashcroft then injured)

3. Sheezel
4. Cadman
5. Tsatas
6. Clark
7. Mackenzie
8. Humphrey

9. Phillipou
10. Hewett
11. Busslinger
12. Hollands
13. Szybkowski
14. Ginbey
15. Jefferson
16. Hotton
17. George
18. Hayes
19. Cowan
20. Keeler
21. Weddle
22. Davey Jnr
23. Barnett

Was difficult from about picks 20 on to place players.

Largely based on champs games replays, state league performances and some reports. Definitely not as nuanced as the guys on the trade and draft thread

Have not been able to watch any matches live. Get a hell of a lot more from those with a biggie being game sense of the players

I hope we go with Hewett as a comfort pick for me.

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

I hope we go with Hewett as a comfort pick for me.

Would it comfort you if we played him the wrong way then traded him out for a compensation pick?

 

[caesar88]

Would it comfort you if we played him the wrong way then traded him out for a compensation pick?

Yes. I miss the rage.

 

[SGBeach]

My reading of the rules is that a player can now be on the rookie list for 4 years if they didn’t change their list status in that time.

So McLean would likely need to be promoted to the senior list in this case.

However this might not be the case however if his first season as a SSP signing is not counted towards the 4 years and thus he gets an extra year on the rookie list next year.

Currently we have 30 players signed for next year on the Senior List and on the 5 Rookie List.

We have 4 players from the senior list without contracts for next year (Reid, Ronke, Bell and Naismith) and 1 Rookie without a contract (McAndrew)

We have currently 2 senior list spots and 2 rookie list spots (1 Cat A and 1 Cat B).

Those open senior list spots get taken if we trade for Francis and promote McLean this would mean we need to delist 3 of Reid, Ronke, Bell and Naismith to get to the 3 minimum draft picks.

McAndrew is contracted next year. Charlie Gardiner said this a couple of weeks ago.
Also..
A club needs to draft 3 players, but can upgrade rookies to senior list which counts in those three players. Think this rule was changed when list sizes were reduced a couple of years ago. eg.. We can upgrade 2 rookies and draft one player

But thanks for your insights.. Im way too confused????

 

[robbieando]

McAndrew is contracted next year. Charlie Gardiner said this a couple of weeks ago.
Also..

No official announcement from the club has been made so for my purposes he is considered unconfirmed at this stage.

A club needs to draft 3 players, but can upgrade rookies to senior list which counts in those three players. Think this rule was changed when list sizes were reduced a couple of years ago. eg.. We can upgrade 2 rookies and draft one player

This has been the rule for quite a few years now and can be done via the list lodgement period or during the draft.

It’s generally only done via the draft if a club only has late draft picks they don’t want to use for example Carlton last year used their 3 draft picks to draft Motlop early then promote two rookies as they held picks at the back end of the draft.

When we promoted Bell to the senior list (the last rookie we promoted to the senior list) we didn’t do it via the draft.

 

[mtooler]

AFL trade news: Sydney’s Dan Hannebery traded to St Kilda

Premiership Swan returns home to Victoria in trade with Saints

www.foxsports.com.au

We did get a packet of Samboys though.

 

[mtooler]

 

[Ticky009]

Surely kinnear can turn 14 and 17 or some incarnation of it into a pick that puts us in the range for him. Dalrymple seemed smitten with him

To be frank, we have nothing they want. There is zero incentive to trade out of the top 10 for our picks that I can see at the moment.

 

[Ticky009]

Ticky009 when the trade period is over any chance of pinning the link for the replays* of the U18 Championship matches if people want to form their own opinions on potential draftees (other than by reading what others think or watching highlights packages)?

*U18 Champs - AFL U18 Championships - Fixtures, replays and general info

Do you mean get rid of the Draft Excel Spreadsheet at the top and add another?

 

[hairy biker]

Do you mean get rid of the Draft Excel Spreadsheet at the top and add another?

No that's a really useful resource.

More along the lines of keeping that and then just the link for the replays thread, so people can access it easily if they wish.
It's a bit hidden away in the Phantom draft hub.

 

[Ticky009]

No that's a really useful resource.

More along the lines of keeping that and then just the link for the replays thread, so people can access it easily if they wish.
It's a bit hidden away in the Phantom draft hub.

I can't embed any link separately with the spreadsheet unfortunately.

 

[sataris]

I can't embed any link separately with the spreadsheet unfortunately.

Have you tried yelling at Chief ?

 

[Ticky009]

Have you tried yelling at Chief ?

Not if I want to keep my shiny emoji button which I use on the draft board

 

[momentbymoment]

No.

 

[BloodySwan]

Dodo will be lucky to get anything for Francis. If Francis goes to the PSD no one except Sydney will pick him up

 

[Cadsky]

Not if I want to keep my shiny emoji button which I use on the draft board

I'm still waiting for Wosh to give me the react

 

[Millky95]

Dodo will be lucky to get anything for Francis. If Francis goes to the PSD no one except Sydney will pick him up

I suspect a future 4th will get done in the last hour

 

[ashep]

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

This is the least active the club has been in a trade period I can remember.

Not neccessary a bad thing tho.

 

[DST]

This is the least active the club has been in a trade period I can remember.

Not neccessary a bad thing tho.

Pretty much exactly as we said it would be and where our strategy is at present.


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[KingV23]

Is it draft time yet? Zzz

 

[dosser]

The AFL site is saying that if deals get done today, they wont be announced until after 3.30 this afternoon anyway. See you back here then.

 

[RampeRobe]

Anyone else have the irrational feeling that we will randomly announce we’ve traded for Dunkley this arvo?
**** I would be happy