List Mgmt. 2023 List Management

[jooce8891]

please austin

 

[TheBlueCampaigner]

Do you mean Cripps back to WA for pick 1 and another inside top 8 kind of deep??

Harley Reid and pick 8 Might be a few support that if the lad looks good in the guernsey when he rolls out for us in the VFL soon.

 

[jj1978]

please austin

How long till Carltoned?

 

[Markyd]

We have the need the need for speed!!

Across all three lines, especially up forward and in defence to support the mids. Would love a Brad Pearce type quick dangerous forward capable of kicking 40 goals.

 

[Magical_EddieBetts]

please austin

Yes please

 

[DangerousD]

Thought it would be interesting to look at our list and break it down into the different categories of kicking skills and compare it to the best teams in the league and see how they add up. Clear to me we have a dearth of ball users ahead of the ball.

Blue - Elite/Very good
Green - Average/good
Red - Below average

Mcgovern Young Williams
Saad Weitering Docherty
Acres Cripps Hollands
Fisher Curnow Motlop
Owies Mckay Durdin.
Pittonet Cerra Walsh

TDK Hewett Newman Kennedy

Geelong -

Kolo Dekoning Guthrie
Stewart Ratugolea Duncan
Smith Danger Holmes
Close Cameron Miers
Stengle Hawkins Rohan
Stanley Guthrie Atkins

Touhy Bowes Henry Blicavs

Collingwood -

Howe Moore Maynard
Daicos Murphy Quaynor
Daicos Pendlebury Sidebottom
Mcreery Mihocek Lipinski
Elliot Mcstay Hill
Cameron Mitchell Adams

Cox Degoey Noble Crisp

Melbourne -

Lever May Salem
Bowey Petty Brayshaw
Hunter Oliver Langdon
Spargo Mcdonald Neal-Bullen
Pickett Brown Fritsch
Gawn Petracca Viney

Grundy Rivers Sparrow Chandler

Sydney -

Rampe McCartin Lloyd
Blakey McCartin Florent
Stephens Mills McCinerney
Gulden Reid Heeney
Papley Franklin Hayward
Hickey Warner Parker

Campbell Mcdonald Rowbottom Cunningham

Brisbane -

Starcevich Andrews Mckenna
Coleman Payne Rich
Mccluggage Neale Zorko
McCarthey Hipwood Bailey
Cameron Daniher Rayner
McCinerney Ashcroft Dunkley

Gunston Berry Joyce Wilmot

Obviously, you can argue for and against some players being in the elite category vs average etc but I think for the most part that's close to an accurate list. Some half forwards aren't elite kicks in general but are very very good at delivering the ball inside 50 so I put them in the elite category.

I like the effort you’ve gone here and obviously a lot of this is subjective, I’m a bit confused about Mihocek of the Pies being rated as poor, Mihocek goal kicking accuracy is over 60%, very similar to Curnow.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I like the effort you’ve gone here and obviously a lot of this is subjective, I’m a bit confused about Mihocek of the Pies being rated as poor, Mihocek goal kicking accuracy is over 60%, very similar to Curnow.

More his field kicking than anything, obviously it's all subjective as you said, but I still think the large majority are accurate and exemplify our lack of footskills in the team.

 

[DangerousD]

So with Marchy and Cunners now back into skills training, should we offer Ed an early retirement package to free up a list spot prior to the mid season draft next month?

Ed has something they don’t, he can get on the park, one of Marchy or Cunners will be injured again.

 

[agro]

Ed has something they don’t, he can get on the park, one of Marchy or Cunners will be injured again.

Once Marchbank and Cuningham get back on the park I’m extremely confident that they’ll repay the faith that the club has in them - trust in Andrew Russell.

 

[DangerousD]

Once Marchbank and Cuningham (and Martin too) get back on the park I’m extremely confident that they’ll repay the faith that the club has in them - trust in Andrew Russell.

I cant Tell if you’re taking the piss

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Ed has something they don’t, he can get on the park, one of Marchy or Cunners will be injured again.

Ok, so if we want a pick in the MSD, how do we go about it given both are back in training?

 

[AT97]

Ben McKay is a great player - but he is just so far from what we need right now. We need to target the draft and acquiring players with elite kicking skills and spread from the contest. Another small/medium forward should also be prioritised. A key defender is so far down the priority list it's not funny. Add to that the fact that he is injury prone, a restricted FA (so will need to do a trade) and will demand decent $$ and it's a big NO.

I‘m assuming this is about Ben mckay but for those of us who don’t have Facebook could you please tell us what’s being said and who’s saying it.

 

[carlton_99]

I‘m assuming this is about Ben mckay but for those of us who don’t have Facebook could you please tell us what’s being said and who’s saying it.

Carlton's Mitch McGovern reportedly "gettable" amid links between Blues and Roos free agent Ben McKay

"A lot to play out but I know rival clubs now regard him as gettable."

www.zerohanger.com

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Lets just say hypothetically we move TDK, Kennedy, Fisher and Gov out at the end of year. What picks do people see us getting in return for each? I think those are really our only 4 that we'd be able to move if we had to that could generate any sort of currency.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Lets just say hypothetically we move TDK, Kennedy, Fisher and Gov out at the end of year. What picks do people see us getting in return for each? I think those are really our only 4 that we'd be able to move if we had to that could generate any sort of currency.

Fisher - 3rd round
Kennedy- Late 2nd
Gov - Early 3rd
TDK - Late first plus change

Alot would depend on fitness and form come the end of the year.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Once Marchbank and Cuningham (and Martin too) get back on the park I’m extremely confident that they’ll repay the faith that the club has in them - trust in Andrew Russell.

This is contrary to previous opinions you have expressed. That doesn't bother me, except why are you bringing up names that are hardly being talked about?

I'd hate to think you were being disingenuous and trying to draw negative comments from others.

 

[HarryFlashman]

Harley Reid and pick 8 Might be a few support that if the lad looks good in the guernsey when he rolls out for us in the VFL soon.

I’d take it, Crippa is going to burn out playing “the system” way to much brutal heavy lifting. Love him to death but for 1 & 8 I’ll take the 2 young guns. It took Walsh what maybe 5 minutes to be comfortable, 5 min later he was a star, I’ll happily take that and another top pick for Crippa, will caveat that by saying i wouldn’t support it if Voss was coach

 

[agro]

This is contrary to previous opinions you have expressed. That doesn't bother me, except why are you bringing up names that are hardly being talked about?

I'd hate to think you were being disingenuous and trying to draw negative comments from others.

Thanks for asking, I was only commenting and adding to DangerousD’s post, however I did add Jack Martin’s name unnecessarily - I will correct that.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Lets just say hypothetically we move TDK, Kennedy, Fisher and Gov out at the end of year. What picks do people see us getting in return for each? I think those are really our only 4 that we'd be able to move if we had to that could generate any sort of currency.

Kennedy a late second early third
Fisher a pick 40-50
Gov I think would only go to a top side so maybe a very late second
TDK pick~15

 

[Gointocarlton]

Once Marchbank and Cuningham get back on the park I’m extremely confident that they’ll repay the faith that the club has in them - trust in Andrew Russell.

Do you know how many games these three have played together? Zero so Ill say the chances of that happening now are buckleys and none.

I did this a while ago, heres the games they have played together:


If you want to add Zac Williams into the mix, here's how many the four of them have played together in varying in confirmation:

 

[katmanblue]

Could be as many as 10 off that list.

Philp, Dow, Plowman, McGovern, Fogarty, Honey, Curnow, Akuei, Marchbank, DC.

If I'm Kemp, I'm asking for a trade.

Why play a midfielder in defence when this guy has been killing it there in the twos?

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[katmanblue]

one thing with english v tdk comparisons - they both struggled to win ruck contests and are mobile

english however has a cox like ability to find the ball. would be surprised if tdk ever averages anywhere close to 20possesions

I'd be surprised if he got 20 ten times over his career.

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[katmanblue]

BMckay for TDK all day.


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So he can sit out injured for half the season, every season?

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[Arr0w]

English is a much better footballer than TDK

 

[katmanblue]

How long till Carltoned?

One off season and three quarters of round one.

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