Preview 2023 Round 8 Carlton vs Brisbane Friday 5th May 7.50PM @ Marvel Stadium

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IN:
Jesse Motlop
OUT: Zac Fisher, Matthew Kennedy








Backs:Sam DochertyLewis YoungNic Newman
Half-backs:Mitch McGovernJacob WeiteringAdam Saad
Centreline:Blake AcresPatrick CrippsEd Curnow
Half-forwards:Sam WalshHarry McKayJack Silvagni
Forwards:Corey DurdinCharlie CurnowJesse Motlop
Followers:Marc PittonetGeorge HewettAdam Cerra
Interchange:Alex CincottaOllie HollandsJosh Honey
Brodie Kemp
Emergencies:Lachie CowanZac FisherLachie Fogarty
Matthew Kennedy
 
Bam Bam was very good when coming on ( midfield)....... Easily best 22 IMO and should come back in.
He was good when he came on, looked like he was playing very much with a point to prove - game was well and truly over and he was in 6th gear, in a good way. That's what you want to see, that hunger and desire to prove your worth.

Only negative I had was the bomb for goal. The rest of the team had quite obviously been looking and trying to get Charlie to 10 and he takes a running shot from outside 50. Even without Charlies 10 it was still a little bit selfish, if he wasn't the sub I think he looks to pass. I get it though, he wanted to prove he should be in the team so wanted the goal, it just maybe wasn't the right play.
 

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OUT: Honey & E.Curnow
IN: Motlop & Owies (suppose to be available round 8?)

Motlop > Honey - Best 22 player, small forward who given the opportunity can kick goals
Owies > E.Curnow - We are a much better team with Owies in it, before injury was averaging 2 goals a game

Young - to play KPD/2nd Ruck role again, been doing this to good effect
Fisher - to play 3rd winger relief role
Docherty - to continue to play defender/ midfielder role

FB: Newman - Weitering - Kemp
HB: Cinnotta - McGovern - Saad

C: Acres - Cripps - Hollands
R: Pittonet - Walsh - Cerra

HF: Motlop - McKay - Durdin
FF: Silvagni - Curnow - Owies

Bench: Young - Hewett - Docherty - Fisher
Sub: Kennedy

Cottrell, Boyd, Honey, TDK & Binns - Bide their time in the reserves, until someone needs a rest or drops in form
 
He was good when he came on, looked like he was playing very much with a point to prove - game was well and truly over and he was in 6th gear, in a good way. That's what you want to see, that hunger and desire to prove your worth.

Only negative I had was the bomb for goal. The rest of the team had quite obviously been looking and trying to get Charlie to 10 and he takes a running shot from outside 50. Even without Charlies 10 it was still a little bit selfish, if he wasn't the sub I think he looks to pass. I get it though, he wanted to prove he should be in the team so wanted the goal, it just maybe wasn't the right play.
I think Kennedy did the right thing.

We need a spread of goal kickers And Kennedy is one of our most reliable shots on goal. We need more running goals from around f50 arc.

charlie kicking 9 was fantastic but kicking 1 more goal to make a neat number like 10 means nothing to team success.
 
I think Kennedy did the right thing.

We need a spread of goal kickers And Kennedy is one of our most reliable shots on goal. We need more running goals from around f50 arc.

charlie kicking 9 was fantastic but kicking 1 more goal to make a neat number like 10 means nothing to team success.
When he was subbed in, his first handball came in HOT to Crippa. Even Crippa fumbled :laughv1:

Kennedy had a point to prove.
 
I may be biased as I really love the Curnow's but I think Ed has utility as a defensive forward as well as a cooler. He also gives us a little point of difference in the middle, he's pretty quick off the mark.

However, I do reckon Binns is worth a look.
 
I think Kennedy did the right thing.

We need a spread of goal kickers And Kennedy is one of our most reliable shots on goal. We need more running goals from around f50 arc.

charlie kicking 9 was fantastic but kicking 1 more goal to make a neat number like 10 means nothing to team success.
When you're up by 100 points I don't think having a spread of goal kickers is an issue they were hoping Kennedy would resolve tbh.

I'm not saying it was inherently bad as broadly I'd agree with what you say, and in most other circumstances I'd agree, it was just noticeable to me as the team was very conscious of getting Charlie the ball and Kennedy was more focussed on getting himself a goal. It's not as though I'm having a go at him it was just a 1% thing I noticed.

I'm not sure it does mean nothing to team success, given how invested they seemed to be in getting the ball to him it felt like it would've been a team achievement. Even when Durdin was lining up for goal SOS was trying to block his man and telling him to lead and Charlie told him no (and after seeing his reaction, I think Durds needed that goal so it was nice to see). Ultimately getting it or not may not have mattered but the mindset of the team was on helping one of their own reach a milestone, which is great as it shows how selfless they all were imo and would've been a nice team building moment through individual success.
 
He was good when he came on, looked like he was playing very much with a point to prove - game was well and truly over and he was in 6th gear, in a good way. That's what you want to see, that hunger and desire to prove your worth.

Only negative I had was the bomb for goal. The rest of the team had quite obviously been looking and trying to get Charlie to 10 and he takes a running shot from outside 50. Even without Charlies 10 it was still a little bit selfish, if he wasn't the sub I think he looks to pass. I get it though, he wanted to prove he should be in the team so wanted the goal, it just maybe wasn't the right play.

He did the right thing...running through to 50 with no opponent putting immediate pressure on. Well within his rights to take a shot.

Charlie and the other forward were closely marked and not in clear space for a pass.

As much as Charlie's 10 would have been nice, it was also nice that in the last quarter a bunch of players got their first goal to get their confidence up - Kennedy, Cerra, Kemp, Cripps and Durdin...they all enjoyed their goals and think ultimately this was more beneficial to the team than just looking for Charlie to kick his 10th.
 

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Quick one for you; Is Paddy Dow any closer to getting a game and is he any good? What’s holding him back?
Beware the bias of those that have and will reply to you about this. Essentially he had issues in development with effort defensively and kicking. He's clearly a good enough kick now, his defensive and general running capacity are at the level now. He's had virtually no opportunity the last two years and it's kinda at the point where it's not his fault anymore.

He's just not playing in front of cerra Walsh Hewett Cripps and the big and main knock on his game - he gets lost when playing the secondary positions of a resting mid still. So he's innefective in the f50. So fitting him into rotations is tough.

His vfl form as 'the guy' is fantastic. He gets 30-40 touches and kicks goals most weeks. Lightning hands etc. Just is what it is atm it seems with midfield rotation and mix in the firsts.
 
Kennedy wasn't dropped due to being bad. He was dropped due to team balance and it paid off. Despite being against westcoast we looked much better playing the 8 defenders allowing Doc to rotate as the 5th mid and Young as backup ruck.

Based on that it would be odd if we recalled him regardless of how he played as sub.
 
I think Kennedy did the right thing.

We need a spread of goal kickers And Kennedy is one of our most reliable shots on goal. We need more running goals from around f50 arc.

charlie kicking 9 was fantastic but kicking 1 more goal to make a neat number like 10 means nothing to team success.
Was far more important for the team overall that Cripps ended up with a goal, and that SOS hit the scoreboard than if Charlie got to 10.. Would have liked Harry to get 5, but he had his chances.
 
When you're up by 100 points I don't think having a spread of goal kickers is an issue they were hoping Kennedy would resolve tbh.

I'm not saying it was inherently bad as broadly I'd agree with what you say, and in most other circumstances I'd agree, it was just noticeable to me as the team was very conscious of getting Charlie the ball and Kennedy was more focussed on getting himself a goal. It's not as though I'm having a go at him it was just a 1% thing I noticed.

I'm not sure it does mean nothing to team success, given how invested they seemed to be in getting the ball to him it felt like it would've been a team achievement. Even when Durdin was lining up for goal SOS was trying to block his man and telling him to lead and Charlie told him no (and after seeing his reaction, I think Durds needed that goal so it was nice to see). Ultimately getting it or not may not have mattered but the mindset of the team was on helping one of their own reach a milestone, which is great as it shows how selfless they all were imo and would've been a nice team building moment through individual success.

Might have been a little selfish, but I still think it was the right play.

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Charlie wanted to lead hard into the pocket, WC had a spare man in defence, positioned to block the direct leading lane. Kennedy had an open field in front of him, as Witherden had peeled off to cover Ed on the outside. Right after the above still, Kennedy has a quick look back over his shoulder and sees that there's nobody chasing him either. By the time he turns back forward Charlie is abandoning the lead and starts doubling back to the square, where the contest is going to be Charlie and Durdin vs Barrass and Ginbey.

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Kennedy's got fresh legs, is a long and accurate kick, is under no pressure, and Charlie's initial lead is to a low percentage position with Barrass only a step behind him.

Contextually, maybe he should have taken the low percentage kick to Charlie in hope. But independent of that context, I think Kennedy did what the coaches, and what the supporters, would prefer him to do. Take the open territory and slot the easy goal. If the kick had fallen short, Charlie would have had his chance.
 
Beware the bias of those that have and will reply to you about this. Essentially he had issues in development with effort defensively and kicking. He's clearly a good enough kick now, his defensive and general running capacity are at the level now. He's had virtually no opportunity the last two years and it's kinda at the point where it's not his fault anymore.

He's just not playing in front of cerra Walsh Hewett Cripps and the big and main knock on his game - he gets lost when playing the secondary positions of a resting mid still. So he's innefective in the f50. So fitting him into rotations is tough.

His vfl form as 'the guy' is fantastic. He gets 30-40 touches and kicks goals most weeks. Lightning hands etc. Just is what it is atm it seems with midfield rotation and mix in the firsts.
So he is looking like being on the move at year end for more midfield time.

North?
Hawks?
WB?

No idea.
 
So he is looking like being on the move at year end for more midfield time.

North?
Hawks?
WB?

No idea.
Dogs definetly don't need more mids. North have quite a deep midfield mix as well. Probably wouldn't play for the Hawks either - like their mix. Maybe with SOS at Saints now they could be an option
 
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