List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2023

[MooreDaicos]

Finn Callaghan. But every side in Vic would be hoping to have a crack when he's OOC next year.

Doesn't he want to come to us?

 

[Fat Jesus]

Quit calling him Allen FFS.
Edward or it is Allan.
Annoying AF.
Like saying Daices.
Idjuts lift your game.

 

[Oddzonfavourite]

Quit calling him Allen FFS.
Edward or it is Allan.
Annoying AF.
Like saying Daices.
Idjuts lift your game.

You can't talk, look what you could have been.

 

[JuniorB]

As usual for SEN, they have players on the list who have already said they're staying - Barrass & Allen.

 

[Scodog10]

If he plays like he did during Gawns absence it will be well above marginal improvement.

In order to provide a greater than marginal improvement we need a marking presence that improves our clearance game. Not a 5th midfielder that’s horrible in transition. The ruckman that would improve us the most and are remotely possible to extract are Pittonet, Reeves or Darcy.

 

[Albert Parker]

Clarke is a Geelong local, so it’s more someone who wants to escape sleepy hollow than someone who wants to come home. Either way, unless he explodes next year they’ll have no right to ask for any more than Ollie, because he hasn’t set the world on fire yet.

Yes, Queenscliff boy. Father coached around Geelong.
He was a Pies fan though, but not the first guy I'd be linking to us given he did grow up in the Bellarine.
You wonder if the talk about him is some sort of Oli Henry revenge trade suggestion.

 

[Roverjg]

I'd also suggest if true it could be a case of buyer beware. A first year draftee playing VFL requesting a trade from a top club would be a bit of a red flag.

He was found to have a navicular stress fracture following his 2nd game and has been out injured for the past 3 months

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[legendstatus]

Reckon Hawks knew that Newcombe was an outright star when they grabbed him first in mid season draft?

He is doing what JDG isn’t at the moment!

 

[gerryg400]

Reckon Hawks knew that Newcombe was an outright star when they grabbed him first in mid season draft?

He is doing what JDG isn’t at the moment!

You mean planning for end of season trip in September, while Jordy has a massive finals series?

 

[ipswichpies]

Thank you.

I did not know how his 2nd name was spelled but for a boy who played under 18,s this season he is a big lad and can play a bit too.

 

[ipswichpies]

Reckon Hawks knew that Newcombe was an outright star when they grabbed him first in mid season draft?

He is doing what JDG isn’t at the moment!

That is who Stevens reminds me of Jai Newcombe and yes I think Mitchell and Clarkson were well aware of Newcombe,s potential.

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Quit calling him Allen FFS.
Edward or it is Allan.
Annoying AF.
Like saying Daices.
Idjuts lift your game.

ok Jebus

I'm terrible at remembering names so I'ma call him "the bad early 90's hairdo dude"

 

[Fat Jesus]

You can't talk, look what you could have been.

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[Kappa]

As usual for SEN, they have players on the list who have already said they're staying - Barrass & Allen.

Plenty of players have publicly said they're staying then ended up leaving..

 

[KinderSmock]

Callaghan signed an extension this year to stay at the GIANTS until 2025. Unlikely he moves this year. He's a good bloke and one I'd want on our list.

 

[KinderSmock]

I’d prefer to get someone in with a body to compete especially as our midfield is ageing rather than someone who’s going to take three to four pre seasons to become AFL ready.

Rolling Rankings: Top 40 AFL Draft Prospects

This was an interesting read. Moir not featuring in the top 40 rankings. Some of it is guesswork but I think it's fair to say clubs don't see him as a first round talent anymore.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Callaghan signed an extension this year to stay at the GIANTS until 2025. Unlikely he moves this year. He's a good bloke and one I'd want on our list.

Do contracts really mean much these days?
Reports that Grundy will want a move from Melbourne at season’s end, after just one year of a 5 year deal, shows that despite a contract and at the players request, they can move.

 

[Eric Shin]

Has Paddy Dow

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Paddy Dow

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

’s last few weeks changed anyone’s mind on him?

He’s doing much better than Holmes, who I had huge wraps on.


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[gouki88]

Has Paddy Dow’s last few weeks changed anyone’s mind on him?

He’s doing much better than Holmes, who I had huge wraps on.


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For me, not really. He's nearly 24, and is still fairly bog average. I'd rather someone with speed and goal-kicking like Holmes on the outside. I like Macrae more than Dow.

However, the idea of nabbing Dow and him miraculously becoming a gun is juicy.

 

[Chameleon75]

Has Paddy Dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

’s last few weeks changed anyone’s mind on him?

He’s doing much better than Holmes, who I had huge wraps on.


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if he was cheap it be worth considering, I wouldn’t be surprised if he wanted to move, once Walsh and cerra return he’ll be back in the vfl, unless he wants to spend his career as depth a move would be in his interest

 

[KinderSmock]

Has Paddy Dow’s last few weeks changed anyone’s mind on him?

He’s doing much better than Holmes, who I had huge wraps on.


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I've been a fan of recruiting Dow for a while. High end talent, not much value. We take him, we foster him, we reap the rewards. If it doesn't work, then it hasn't cost what Holmes will.

 

[live fast pieyoung]

I've been a fan of recruiting Dow for a while. High end talent, not much value. We take him, we foster him, we reap the rewards. If it doesn't work, then it hasn't cost what Holmes will.

Holmes is a gun. Has proven his capability. And would suit our game plan to a tee.
Much prefer to pay for exactly what we need.

Although I am also confident we could find an underrated inside mid on the cheap if we want

 

[Couch Coach]

I've been a fan of recruiting Dow for a while. High end talent, not much value. We take him, we foster him, we reap the rewards. If it doesn't work, then it hasn't cost what Holmes will.

I'd rather play Finlay Macrae or Josh Carmichael or bring Brayden Sier out of retirement than bring in Dow.

Dow was drafted in 2017 and played 71 games for:

Pretty much below average in every stat

He's only one month younger than Carmichael. Macrae is three years younger.


Stats from: - 2023

Yes Dow has better 2023 VFL stats than Macrae and Carmichael but:

• Average 5.1 more disposals than Macrae but Macrae is 3 years younger.
• Average 8.6 more disposals than Carmichael but Carmichael is playing as a wing at times.
• Carmichael kicks more goals.

The biggest issue is his disposals


64% dispoal efficiency.
52.8% kicking efficiency.

 

[Scodog10]

I'd rather play Finlay Macrae or Josh Carmichael or bring Brayden Sier out of retirement than bring in Dow.

Dow was drafted in 2017 and played 71 games for:
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Pretty much below average in every stat

He's only one month younger than Carmichael. Macrae is three years younger.

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Stats from: - 2023

Yes Dow has better 2023 VFL stats than Macrae and Carmichael but:

• Average 5.1 more disposals than Macrae but Macrae is 3 years younger.
• Average 8.6 more disposals than Carmichael but Carmichael is playing as a wing at times.
• Carmichael kicks more goals.

The biggest issue is his disposals
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64% dispoal efficiency.
52.8% kicking efficiency.

Hmmm bit of a flimsy argument. If you’re an AFL quality mid long term you put up AFL quality numbers. Only one of the three was putting up AFL numbers and coincidentally has been the one to play senior footy this year. On the balance of things none of the three are improving us in 2024.

 

[Oddzonfavourite]

Going forward Fin has to become Adams/Mitchell, be interesting to see if the club is confident of that or lets him go and trades for a diesel.