List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2023

[Gone Critical]

This ^.

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' August ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his second Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2023 National Draft

www.afl.com.au

1. H Reid 1
2. J Walter (GCSA) 2
3. Z Duursma (Say North compo)
4. C McKercher 3
5. N Watson 4
6. D Curtin 5
7. R Sanders (North trying to get as free NGA)
8. N Caddy 6
9. E Reid (GCSA)
10. C O'Sullivan 7
11. J Croft (WBD F&S)
12. J Rogers (GCSA)
13. O Murphy 8
14. D Wilson 9
15. W McCabe (Haw F&S)
16. A Roberts 10
17. J Leake 11
18. R Hardeman 12
19. C Windsor 13
20. M Edwards (Fre NGA) 14
21. A Reid 15
22. H DeMattia 16
23. K Tholstrup 17
24. W Green 18
25. A Moir 19

When we win the flag this year we will have pick 18 but taking out the F&S, academy and North compo (assumed Pick 3 and Sanders) we would only have access to the 24th best player.

Hard to get a gun mid that far back.

Love that problem

 

[gouki88]

This ^.

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' August ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his second Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2023 National Draft

www.afl.com.au

1. H Reid 1
2. J Walter (GCSA) 2
3. Z Duursma (Say North compo)
4. C McKercher 3
5. N Watson 4
6. D Curtin 5
7. R Sanders (North trying to get as free NGA)
8. N Caddy 6
9. E Reid (GCSA)
10. C O'Sullivan 7
11. J Croft (WBD F&S)
12. J Rogers (GCSA)
13. O Murphy 8
14. D Wilson 9
15. W McCabe (Haw F&S)
16. A Roberts 10
17. J Leake 11
18. R Hardeman 12
19. C Windsor 13
20. M Edwards (Fre NGA) 14
21. A Reid 15
22. H DeMattia 16
23. K Tholstrup 17
24. W Green 18
25. A Moir 19

When we win the flag this year we will have pick 18 but taking out the F&S, academy and North compo (assumed Pick 3 and Sanders) we would only have access to the 24th best player.

Hard to get a gun mid that far back.

Happy to keep topping up with veterans cast out by poor clubs, like Mitchell. Especially in the middle of a flag tilt

 

[Bussie]

Any love for Lewis Melican

43

Lewis Melican

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

5.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.0

3star

MG

48.0

1star

D

5.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.0

2star

MG

48.0

1star

D

5.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.0

3star

MG

48.0

1star

from the Swans? 26,195cm, 96kg.

 

[gouki88]

Any love for Lewis Melican from the Swans? 26,195cm, 96kg.

He is very very average. Pass

 

[KinderSmock]

This ^.

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' August ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his second Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2023 National Draft

www.afl.com.au

1. H Reid 1
2. J Walter (GCSA) 2
3. Z Duursma (Say North compo)
4. C McKercher 3
5. N Watson 4
6. D Curtin 5
7. R Sanders (North trying to get as free NGA)
8. N Caddy 6
9. E Reid (GCSA)
10. C O'Sullivan 7
11. J Croft (WBD F&S)
12. J Rogers (GCSA)
13. O Murphy 8
14. D Wilson 9
15. W McCabe (Haw F&S)
16. A Roberts 10
17. J Leake 11
18. R Hardeman 12
19. C Windsor 13
20. M Edwards (Fre NGA) 14
21. A Reid 15
22. H DeMattia 16
23. K Tholstrup 17
24. W Green 18
25. A Moir 19

When we win the flag this year we will have pick 18 but taking out the F&S, academy and North compo (assumed Pick 3 and Sanders) we would only have access to the 24th best player.

Hard to get a gun mid that far back.

And this is why our first rounder has little value.

 

[Jen2310]

Reporting on Gettable, clubs will look to target Trent Bianco, Fin Macrae, Reef McInnes and Josh Carmichael.

GETTABLE: Swans eye in-demand duo, trade Dogs 'must do', can Pies package picks?

Riley Beveridge and Cal Twomey discuss the latest Phantom Form Guide and are joined by Sydney list manager Kinnear Beatson

www.afl.com.au

 

[JOELY]

And this is why our first rounder has little value.

Very keen to see us linked to some names over the next couple of months. I love the draft and the hope around new kids, but our drafting has been middle of the road for a long time. On the other hand our trading for players has been excellent and thats where I'd like our first rounder to be used to maximise value.

 

[Bianconeri]

Reporting on Gettable, clubs will look to target Trent Bianco, Fin Macrae, Reef McInnes and Josh Carmichael.

GETTABLE: Swans eye in-demand duo, trade Dogs 'must do', can Pies package picks?

Riley Beveridge and Cal Twomey discuss the latest Phantom Form Guide and are joined by Sydney list manager Kinnear Beatson

www.afl.com.au

Hopefully we can get some decent currency back

 

[SchuPie]

Reporting on Gettable, clubs will look to target Trent Bianco, Fin Macrae, Reef McInnes and Josh Carmichael.

GETTABLE: Swans eye in-demand duo, trade Dogs 'must do', can Pies package picks?

Riley Beveridge and Cal Twomey discuss the latest Phantom Form Guide and are joined by Sydney list manager Kinnear Beatson

www.afl.com.au

Came across as a bit of a Captain Obvious statement without specifics to back who who might be interested.
They might / they might not.
I would image Reef will see a spot for himself in the next year or 2.
Ditto Macrae - but if he wants to explore his options then that's ok.
JC and Bianco are good depth but if they want to go, that's ok.

 

[Jen2310]

Hopefully we can get some decent currency back

They wont let Reef go, or Fin if they can help it.
I can see Carmichael leaving for more opportunity. Bianco and Ruscoe also.

 

[Couch Coach]

They wont let Reef go, or Fin if they can help it.
I can see Carmichael leaving for more opportunity. Bianco and Ruscoe also.

Yep.

Carmy, Bianco and Ruscoe are all out of contract.
They will probably have to wait an see if there are list spots and $$ available for them.
If they can get a decent offer elsewhere they would have to have a serious think about it.

Fin and Reef are contracted so another club would have to pay up to get them.

I'd like to keep all of them but that appears unlikely.

 

[Jen2310]

Yep.

Carmy, Bianco and Ruscoe are all out of contract.
They will probably have to wait an see if there are list spots and $$ available for them.
If they can get a decent offer elsewhere they would have to have a serious think about it.

Fin and Reef are contracted so another club would have to pay up to get them.

I'd like to keep all of them but that appears unlikely.

Reef definitely stays imo

And we're not gonna lose three midfielders, given that Pendles, Adams and Mitchell are 30 or older, to then start all over again.
And given the draft isn't that deep, there would be no real incentive to do a deal unless it was extra good, which I can't see how it can be.

 

[Jen2310]

Given they are playing Ryan, you get the sense that Ruscoe's papers are stamped.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Given they are playing Ryan, you get the sense that Ruscoe's papers are stamped.

Yeah, he’s off. He was selling his car on Instagram a couple of days ago.

 

[Scodog10]

Yeah, he’s off. He was selling his car on Instagram a couple of days ago.

Mate you’ve got better things to be doing than sleuthing players Insta’s at the moment! That or get back home because we’ve played like busted arses since you left…

 

[Couch Coach]

Yeah, he’s off. He was selling his car on Instagram a couple of days ago.

Good luck to him if true.

Would be a good player for a rebuilding West Coast.

 

[Jen2310]

Yeah, he’s off. He was selling his car on Instagram a couple of days ago.

I did see that and made me wonder.

 

[TradeDraft]

Reporting on Gettable, clubs will look to target Trent Bianco, Fin Macrae, Reef McInnes and Josh Carmichael.

GETTABLE: Swans eye in-demand duo, trade Dogs 'must do', can Pies package picks?

Riley Beveridge and Cal Twomey discuss the latest Phantom Form Guide and are joined by Sydney list manager Kinnear Beatson

www.afl.com.au

Can see Bianco Going.

Doubt Reef will Leave.

Need at least keep 1 of Macrae and Carmichael

 

[TradeDraft]

Yep.

Carmy, Bianco and Ruscoe are all out of contract.
They will probably have to wait an see if there are list spots and $$ available for them.
If they can get a decent offer elsewhere they would have to have a serious think about it.

Fin and Reef are contracted so another club would have to pay up to get them.

I'd like to keep all of them but that appears unlikely.

Same as Poulter last year

 

[gerryg400]

Yeah, he’s off. He was selling his car on Instagram a couple of days ago.

What does he drive?

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Mate you’ve got better things to be doing than sleuthing players Insta’s at the moment! That or get back home because we’ve played like busted arses since you left…

I follow a handful of people and most of them tend to be Collingwood players

I’m hoping the boys scrap through to the GF when I finally can attend a game. Haha

 

[sideswipe]

Yeah, he’s off. He was selling his car on Instagram a couple of days ago.

The time-honoured tradition of selling a car prior to being delisted? It's always a giveaway. FMD.

 

[TheVillageIdiot7]

The time-honoured tradition of selling a car prior to being delisted? It's always a giveaway. FMD.

Always a dead giveaway

Question is...what he's buying? From where?

Upgrade = He's signed a deal with another club for more $$ (if its from an interstate seller....that's where he's going).
Same type = re-signed with pies
Downgrade = delisted and no interest.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

West Coast's list manager was on Gettable a few weeks back. He said that it's unlikely they get involved in the trade period, but if they did it would for players in the early 20s age bracket.

I think Ruscoe would be a decent selection for them on the cheap. He would basically be guaranteed senior game time and gets to head back home.

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[Jelly Bean]

Happy to keep topping up with veterans cast out by poor clubs, like Mitchell. Especially in the middle of a flag tilt

No way, we are old, and need to get younger pretty quickly, given our long run of misses in the early / mid stages of drafts over the last 5+ years. Very few hits.