List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

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SaintSlayer said:
I wonder whether retired Jason Castagna (27) is worth recruiting. He was a role player at the Tigers.
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gringo2011 said:
Yeah, absolute cultural leader. Even the women's side love him. He's the type of player that the club will want to keep on staff after he finishes up. He's like a dietician, psychologist, social club director, indigenous cultural officer, trainer and vice captain in one body. Great in interviews too, really happy to discuss his career turnaround and take full ownership of why he struggled to make it at North. I thought he'd be another McKernan who'd take a spot for a year and disappear into obscurity.
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Everyone loves The Girth.
 
TheNewEnsign said:
Re-signed Wilkie, Sincs and Hig mid year. Would have rightly paid good coin to Wilks & Sincs, probably paid Hig at the top of his personal market too.
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Clubs budget for their best players extensions before offering big money to an opposition player.

Sinclair and Wilkie were already signed beyond this year. Extending them a few more years would have allowed us to move money around as well to open up more cap space for the next few years,.
 
Looks like Parish stays at the Injectors.
If Gresh goes to Hawthorn sounds like end of frdp.
The longer Flanders takes to sign the more he is on a plane south and as we have an identified role for him other suitors do not makes logic that he comes here.
Logic and draft are a contradiction in terms.
But I think what is in effect a player swap Gresh for Flanders is about the right currency even a bit light our way.

Maybe could see Hewitt to WCE for 19 to GCS and we get a pick upgrade/swap if Doogs goes to Swans for their 22. Maybe Ben King gets involved in all this....who the he'll knows.

Lots of sliding doors to come but main prize is Flanders.

You would think that Freo and Hawks can swap Brockman and Liam Henry and a pick swap.

However I reckon Gresh now fills Wingard spot.

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FootyMaster11 said:
I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Billings is likely gone
Gresh Gone
Howard gone for the right price
Membrey potentially gone for the right price
Zones on a significantly reduced contract
Clark and Coffield a 50/50 to stay
McKenzie likely delisted due to injury

that would be a significant amount coming off the books, and would also be most of the hyperinflated contracts that we have
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Isn't Billings contracted for next two years?

Would need a genuine Buyer and likely a team in the premiership window given his profile.

It would be a bitter pill to swallow to let him go for a 3rd rounder given he was Pick 3 and should be in his prime now. Unfortunately 3rd rounder is fair for a fringe player. He lacks that competitive edge too often.
 
TheNewEnsign said:
Re-signed Wilkie, Sincs and Hig mid year. Would have rightly paid good coin to Wilks & Sincs, probably paid Hig at the top of his personal market too.
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I'm led to believe we have signed all our best players all around 700k to 600k which is a feat in it self.
Steele , King , Marshall , Sinclair , Wilkie , Crouch
Only having Hill on overs with most of the others on the base salary and having around 12 first and second players on the bare minimum I would fully expect them to have a war chest for a player if needed.

Teams like Carlton would be splitting at the sides with some of the contracts and with a few of the players failing to live up to expectations like Williams , Miller , McGovern - it's the reason the DeKoing contract draged out because now they have to cull a couple players to fit them in and by the sounds Fisher and Silvagni will be edged out.
However a lot of clubs are in the same boat - Dogs , Suns , GWS.

Gallagher being a ex-international Banker has left us in a very good position to pay our up coming stars and have enough of a war chest to get a player that we really need if one becomes available.
 
Sniffy Jenkins said:
Isn't Billings contracted for next two years?

Would need a genuine Buyer and likely a team in the premiership window given his profile.

It would be a bitter pill to swallow to let him go for a 3rd rounder given he was Pick 3 and should be in his prime now. Unfortunately 3rd rounder is fair for a fringe player. He lacks that competitive edge too often.
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He can't even get into our best 22 so he is gone if someone wants him and there are a few with injury concerns that are on around the same money that will most probably be put out for trade like Jones , McKenzie and the talk of Gresham , Clark and Howard leaving is going to give us a war chest if only a few are moved on.
 
Sniffy Jenkins said:
Isn't Billings contracted for next two years?

Would need a genuine Buyer and likely a team in the premiership window given his profile.

It would be a bitter pill to swallow to let him go for a 3rd rounder given he was Pick 3 and should be in his prime now. Unfortunately 3rd rounder is fair for a fringe player. He lacks that competitive edge too often.
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Except he's a fringe player worth a 3rd rounder who's on $500k ****ing bucks a year. We'll probably have to pay the kents to take him if anyone ever does.
 
Premium said:
I'm led to believe we have signed all our best players all around 700k to 600k which is a feat in it self.
Steele , King , Marshall , Sinclair , Wilkie , Crouch
Only having Hill on overs with most of the others on the base salary and having around 12 first and second players on the bare minimum I would fully expect them to have a war chest for a player if needed.

Teams like Carlton would be splitting at the sides with some of the contracts and with a few of the players failing to live up to expectations like Williams , Miller , McGovern - it's the reason the DeKoing contract draged out because now they have to cull a couple players to fit them in and by the sounds Fisher and Silvagni will be edged out.
However a lot of clubs are in the same boat - Dogs , Suns , GWS.

Gallagher being a ex-international Banker has left us in a very good position to pay our up coming stars and have enough of a war chest to get a player that we really need if one becomes available.
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Whatever he might be criticized for, Gags was not reckless with the dollars. Though he didn't have much elite talent to throw it at anyway.
 
ScrappyDo said:
Except he's a fringe player worth a 3rd rounder who's on $500k ****ing bucks a year. We'll probably have to pay the kents to take him if anyone ever does.
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Yeah I suspect he is on good coin. I don't think he will get traded. Should see out his Contract especially if Gresh departs. After his two years probably to the AFL scrap heap unless something miraculous happens and he finds fitness and form.
 

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Gallagher being a ex-international Banker
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err no. He worked at a bank, but was not a banker. He was basically a Sales/Business Development Manager at an Australian State Level. He was not in the actual banking part of the business. Not in the international banking sector.

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stfan said:
err no. He worked at a bank, but was not a banker. He was basically a Sales/Business Development Manager at an Australian State Level. He was not in the actual banking part of the business. Not in the international banking sector.

Skills: Growth Strategies · Sales Management · Business Relationship Management · Business Strategy · Financial Analysis
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Seriously. My mum always ran a good household budget when I was growing up. Salary caps aren’t nothing more. International banker got to be kidding. Rhyming slang perhaps. Would be so easy to develop a spreadsheet formula based on player rankings to keep it humming. Ridiculous
 
falkstar said:
Seriously. My mum always ran a good household budget when I was growing up. Salary caps aren’t nothing more. International banker got to be kidding. Rhyming slang perhaps. Would be so easy to develop a spreadsheet formula based on player rankings to keep it humming. Ridiculous
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You would think so, except that every large Australian company is incapable of doing so and are continually being exposed for underpaying their staff.
 
sunny3193 said:
You would think so, except that every large Australian company is incapable of doing so and are continually being exposed for underpaying their staff.
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Not just limited to Australia. You don't become a large company by being fair, good, or decent.
You give the workers enough to not leave, but not enough to live well.
 

TWIST IN GRESHAM FUTURE​

The pendulum might have swung back in favour of Jade Gresham remaining at St Kilda given his excellent recent form.

The Saints had postponed talks on contracts for many of their mid-tier players, which is why Hunter Clark is still a person of interest for rival clubs despite a solid year.

But while Hawthorn and Carlton have both been linked to mid-forward Gresham, St Kilda is now very keen to re-sign the restricted free agent.

His recent form playing some more midfield time has allowed him to finish the year strongly with contests including his 22-possession, three-goal outing against Richmond.

He is averaging nearly two direct score assists in the past six weeks and his score involvements are up.

St Kilda seems happy to go back to the draft with their early picks and could secure another selection for Dougal Howard, with Moneyball revealing last month he could be on the move.

But given Gresham would be unlikely to trigger first-round compensation if he left, the smart play is to re-sign him rather than see him leave for an early-30s draft selection.

SUN’S TALKS PROGRESS​

Victorian clubs chasing Gold Coast midfielder Sam Flanders might be rebuffed as talks continue over a four-year deal.

The 22-year-old from Fish Creek in Gippsland finished the year with a superb fortnight, racking up possession tallies of 36 (five clearances) and 29 (two goals).

The deal is not done yet but the Suns believe they are in a good position on that deal given he is getting serious midfield time in a team about to welcome Damien Hardwick.

Elijah Holland could move back to Melbourne despite being contracted, while clubs will surely ask about Chris Burgess (contracted to 2024) given his 51-goal VFL season from only 17 games.

 
BrutThough said:

TWIST IN GRESHAM FUTURE​

The pendulum might have swung back in favour of Jade Gresham remaining at St Kilda given his excellent recent form.

The Saints had postponed talks on contracts for many of their mid-tier players, which is why Hunter Clark is still a person of interest for rival clubs despite a solid year.

But while Hawthorn and Carlton have both been linked to mid-forward Gresham, St Kilda is now very keen to re-sign the restricted free agent.

His recent form playing some more midfield time has allowed him to finish the year strongly with contests including his 22-possession, three-goal outing against Richmond.

He is averaging nearly two direct score assists in the past six weeks and his score involvements are up.

St Kilda seems happy to go back to the draft with their early picks and could secure another selection for Dougal Howard, with Moneyball revealing last month he could be on the move.

But given Gresham would be unlikely to trigger first-round compensation if he left, the smart play is to re-sign him rather than see him leave for an early-30s draft selection.

SUN’S TALKS PROGRESS​

Victorian clubs chasing Gold Coast midfielder Sam Flanders might be rebuffed as talks continue over a four-year deal.

The 22-year-old from Fish Creek in Gippsland finished the year with a superb fortnight, racking up possession tallies of 36 (five clearances) and 29 (two goals).

The deal is not done yet but the Suns believe they are in a good position on that deal given he is getting serious midfield time in a team about to welcome Damien Hardwick.

Elijah Holland could move back to Melbourne despite being contracted, while clubs will surely ask about Chris Burgess (contracted to 2024) given his 51-goal VFL season from only 17 games.

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Happy to keep Gresh on modest money.
 
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