Preview 2023 Elimination Final - Carlton vs Sydney Friday 8th Sept 7.50PM @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …


IN: Patrick Cripps

9

Patrick Cripps

Age

29

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

, Sam Docherty

15

Sam Docherty

Age

31

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.3

5star

K

15.1

5star

HB

7.2

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.1

3star

D

22.6

5star

K

16.0

5star

HB

6.6

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

0.6

1star

CL

0.4

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.4

4star

CL

0.6

3star

, Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

OUT: Paddy Dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

, Corey Durdin, Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

, Ollie Hollands

After starting the last game as sub, Caleb Marchbank has been elevated into the starting 22.

AFL team news: Who's in for the elimination final?

Some big Blues are back for the clash with Sydney.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Brodie Kemp	Jacob Weitering	Nic Newman
Half-backs:	Alex Cincotta	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Sam Docherty
Half-forwards:	Jack Martin	Harry McKay	David Cuningham
Forwards:	Lachie Fogarty	Charlie Curnow	Matthew Owies
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	Adam Cerra	Sam Walsh
Interchange:	Matthew Cottrell	Tom De Koning	George Hewett
	Caleb Marchbank
Emergencies:	Paddy Dow	Zac Fisher	Ollie Hollands
	Jesse Motlop

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

My tip.

It'll be "less wet" than last night.

With the wind, no dew, dry ground....

Yep the wind will blow the rain away, before the first bounce. Agree, dry game.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Yep the wind will blow the rain away, before the first bounce. Agree, dry game.

I can't believe the match committee - way too tall, the swans will cut us up at ground level in the wet!!!!

Oh, hang on...

Bleaters are defeaters!

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Wonder what the plan for Blakey is? His straight-line speed can’t really be countered but I wonder if a high-IQ footballer like Martin can expose him?

We’re clearly going in with a plan to win the footy at the contest and considering how scrappy lasts night’s game was (aside from the odd score from turnover), it’s hard to argue against the strategy.

Motlop is the one I’m disappointed didn’t get a run - this time next year I think he’ll be a permanent fixture of the forward line.

Hollands is unlucky, but Doc was phenomenal on the wing whilst he was injured and it coincided with our hot run of mid-season form.

The only argument is that it is likely to be low scoring, so wont be many centre bounces for Pitto to compete in..

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Would give Cottrell the job on Blakey.

Prefer Cotters on Gulden.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Down in Melb for the big one tonight - can't wait.

A full colosseum , primed with 80k Blues fans - can't wait to feel that heat. God knows we need some!

The last game I went to was v Suns in GC.

Thinking this one might feel a little different.

Crack in Baggers!

I'm sure that's the plan - they wont die wondering.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

After last nights game, surely we make a late change. Motlop in, a big man out.

Bobby Hill dominated when it mattered.

Bring him in!

Not sure what last nights game has to do with 7:20 tonight.

 

[lily of laguna]

Saw bobby hill running around dominating last night and my mind immediately went to Motts.

Criminal if he misses. And he’s not a good sub choice so has to be in the 22 imo.

Those 2 players are not really similar at the moment. I hope mots gets to that level but he’s not there yet. I would say cottrell plays more like hill, but cotters is more combative.

Selection is difficult and good players have missed out today.

The saying ‘don’t get beaten by what you know’ is ringing in my ears.

We know the strength of swans is the transition from back to front and with the marking players of Heeney, Hayward and the 3 taller forwards we needed aerial coverage.

I look at it like it’s Marchy for Fish and Pitto for Mots.

We have Martin, owies, cunners and fog for tackling/defensive forward half pressure so I can see why we dropped Mots.

Voss wants ‘finals’ on ball brutality, with TDK to be fresher for longer so Pitt has come in.

I don’t know if it’s the right strategy but I do know Voss has all the finals experience you could want and in the end it’s a simple game - win the ball, get it forward and kick some goals.


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[RPCB]

off the dees board (8pm)

"Game over at 1/4 time and we are looking at Brayshaw and JVR out next week. Going to be back to back straight sets but hey we extended the coach again great stuff".

Melbourne looked like the next big dynasty after 2021. What has happened to them?

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Those 2 players are not really similar at the moment. I hope mots gets to that level but he’s not there yet. I would say cottrell plays more like hill, but cotters is more combative.

Selection is difficult and good players have missed out today.

The saying ‘don’t get beaten by what you know’ is ringing in my ears.

We know the strength of swans is the transition from back to front and with the marking players of Heeney, Hayward and the 3 taller forwards we needed aerial coverage.

I look at it like it’s Marchy for Fish and Pitto for Mots.

We have Martin, owies, cunners and fog for tackling/defensive forward half pressure so I can see why we dropped Mots.

Voss wants ‘finals’ on ball brutality, with TDK to be fresher for longer so Pitt has come in.

I don’t know if it’s the right strategy but I do know Voss has all the finals experience you could want and in the end it’s a simple game - win the ball, get it forward and kick some goals.


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Good post although I think our selection is the arrogance, in a good way, of the combative Voss knowing we are the better side and backing us in to beat them with our weapons and less concerned with what Sydney are doing.

 

[jooce8891]

if i feel this nervous for an elim final, i cant imagine what it's like going into a grand final

 

[Beyond Blue]

Kemp and Cincotta also played during the whole streak.

Sorry in “constants” I meant those who consistently played well during the winning streak.

 

[jungojungojungo]

I really don't see us dropping either. Maybe a Darcy Cameron style sub at 3qt?
If it's greasy footy with a lot of stoppages, neither of our rucks have the tank to go a full hard 4qts against Hickey - in fact it's a big advantage for us to go 2 vs 1 with a late sub for a quick mid.

As many have said, control the stoppage, control the game.

Go you ****ing baggers!

Wouldn't mind to see either Pitto or TDK left out for Motts.

I agree, we don't need to see 2 big guys lumbering around in the wet.

 

[HarryFlashman]

clangers not a great measure, isn't purely disposal related: "Clanger: An error made by a player resulting in a negative result for his side. Disposal clangers are any kick or handball that directly turns the ball over to the opposition. Frees and 50-metre penalties against, No Pressure Errors, Dropped Marks and Debits are all included in clangers."

If you look at disposals per turnover, it's Cripps 8.6 (our best mid) vs Dow 4.7 (behind Cripps, Hewett, Cerra, Walsh, Kennedy & Docherty).

So Dow's getting our best metres per disposal of our mids with 21.8 vs Crippa's 10.5, but he's turning it over almost twice as often, which is probably why Dow's scoring chain involvement is about 35-40% lower than Cripps, and lower than all of our other mids bar Hewett (0.5% lower than Dow).

Walsh, Cerra & Cripps are the standout 'podium' for our score involvement % mids.

Disposal per clanger is a flawed stat - Cripps & Hew should be very high given they handball more than they kick, all the stats have to be viewed in context & with an eye towards what skews them.
We would be in deep shit if Crippa wasnt the highest- it would mean he misses a heap of HB.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

By golly, we are ludicrously short on the tote, should I feel the urge to partake of a gambling thingy…..which I shall pass on.

Shoulder roast is thawing, beers already in the fridge, only need to give the Billy a rinse & I am well ahead of schedule.

Very, very, very excited, humans.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Anyone else feel sick?

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Anyone else feel sick?

No way, soak it in & enjoy it.

This is what it’s all about.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

No way. soak it in & enjoy it.

This is what it’s all about.

I cannot

 

[Ald Gardiner]

They beat us by 26 pts in Sydney and these are our outs v ins since that game:

Kennedy - Cincotta
Durdin - Fogarty
Hollands - Cuningham
Boyd- Marchbank
Motlop - Martin

Arguably a shade stronger this time around, especially with Martin, Fog and Cuners up forward. Kennedy played off hbf too! Much rather Cinc for that role.

We were ran over in last qtr when Hewett, Durdin, Cripps, Hollands and Newman were injured in-game leaving us with few rotations, not helpful coming off a 5 day break.

Playing at the G and with the team in far better form, especially Walsh and Crippa, I predict a 2-3 goal win. No gimme. This crew made the GF and have great finals experience, we underestimate them at our peril.

 

[Healer]

By golly, we are ludicrously short on the tote, should I feel the urge to partake of a gambling thingy…..which I shall pass on.

Shoulder roast is thawing, beers already in the fridge, only need to give the Billy a rinse & I am well ahead of schedule.

Very, very, very excited, humans.

Magnificent, go baggers

 

[charred_fate]

The only difference to my best team for this week was that I had Mots in and Pitto out (although I knew Pitto would be selected and I was torn on that one myself (I don’t rate him but we do seem to play better as a team)). Thought Fog would/should be replaced by Mots though. Worry we’re going a bit slow now.

Like I’ve said previously, any line-up is a gamble bc we don’t know what our best 22 is. Annoying but nothing we can do about it.

Desperately want to see a good performance from H. He has the potential to make or break the line-up we’re choosing to run with.

 

[Healer]

if i feel this nervous for an elim final, i cant imagine what it's like going into a grand final

The nervousness is insignificant compared to the week long post match swagger, go baggers

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

if i feel this nervous for an elim final, i cant imagine what it's like going into a grand final

It's amazing.. you just wait

 

[Blue Reaper]

In case y’all aren’t tracking the event tonight. Here’s a reminder…

 

[Stamos]

The concern is that we look slightly top heavy for a night game, definitely would have preferred one of Hollands & Dow or Motlop over Marchbank.

They play completely different positions.
Marchbank is in for Fisher, not for a wing, mid or small forward.

 

[Beer n Skittles]

Those 2 players are not really similar at the moment. I hope mots gets to that level but he’s not there yet. I would say cottrell plays more like hill, but cotters is more combative.

Selection is difficult and good players have missed out today.

The saying ‘don’t get beaten by what you know’ is ringing in my ears.

We know the strength of swans is the transition from back to front and with the marking players of Heeney, Hayward and the 3 taller forwards we needed aerial coverage.

I look at it like it’s Marchy for Fish and Pitto for Mots.

We have Martin, owies, cunners and fog for tackling/defensive forward half pressure so I can see why we dropped Mots.

Voss wants ‘finals’ on ball brutality, with TDK to be fresher for longer so Pitt has come in.

I don’t know if it’s the right strategy but I do know Voss has all the finals experience you could want and in the end it’s a simple game - win the ball, get it forward and kick some goals.


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Not sure we'll see too much of Heeney up forward - followed Cripps around last time and did a good job of it, should happen again.