Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[adogsfan5]

Handouts hey.

 

[weltschmerz]

Handouts hey.

Shades of Will Phillips over Logan McDonald.

 

[dergert]

What would we get from Norf for pick 10?

 

[LittleG]

What would we get from Norf for pick 10?

Future picks. Pick 19x2 or similar.

 

[dergert]

Future picks. Pick 19x2 or similar.

Hmmm tempting.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Regardless, we cannot sit on 10 and 17 because both are at risk

Exactly, it’s not great but we need to play the hand we’ve been dealt with a Croft bid and the shite Dunkley trade.

 

[Makeshift Park]

What would we get from Norf for pick 10?

Don't the Dogs need it to bid for GC's first rounder?

I was expecting we'd have to offer GC 19 and future 19 for it at least.

Maybe 15 and future 19 if there's a player involved.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Highly unlikely Sam Power will add a Future First Rounder he has never done it.

He’s never had to. He needs to turn 10 and 17 into something worthwhile. I suspect the club is completely over rating the list and backing themselves to bounce back significantly next year.
I’m not saying I would do it but I guess it’s now or never for the Bont so maybe being brave at the trade table is the way. We haven’t really made any exciting moves like this previously, partly due to JUH and Darcy.

 

[dergert]

Don't the Dogs need it to bid for GC's first rounder?

I was expecting we'd have to offer GC 19 and future 19 for it at least.

Maybe 15 and future 19 if there's a player involved.

Just interested mate.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Pick 17 needs to be traded for a future first.

Pick 10 to North or Dees for future picks.

We settle for Croft (bid likely at pick 8, Bombers).

Then have a big draft next year.


Croft is too good to pass up and the cost of pick 4 is probably too high.

Who is going to give a F1 for 17 that will end up in the 20s?

 

[ummmbont]

No what
We have a good list that needs spark
Get Watson will win best first year player
Pay it we have the best forwards on the planet
Weigtman naughty is enough to win games
Add Bont and libba
Please

 

[Ash1337]

Would take geelongs first and whatever they get for ratugolea for 10 and 17 maybe Simpson as steak knives.

 

[cleveland]

Good list, with a stale head coach and no assistants.

 

[Boyd oh Boyd]

Who is going to give a F1 for 17 that will end up in the 20s?

It's not always a first but you can get good value in futures. In 2019 Geelong got GC's future first priority pick for pick 27, in 2020 Richmond traded pick 20 for Geelong's future first, last year Sydney got 27 and a future second and future third for 18.

The problem is that it mostly happens on draft night when a team wants to get back into the draft and I believe once Croft is bid on we can no longer trade out 17. I would look into packaging 17 and a future second for a future first which could be risky.

 

[doggiesin08]

Who is going to give a F1 for 17 that will end up in the 20s?

You might get offered that as a live trade if someone slides (i.e if a player at #10 on a clubs board is still there at #20) but that doesn’t help us at all. I think you’re right, best you can hope for is one of North’s new picks or a F2 from a low team and then that probably shifts out to 25-30 next year.

Would you do #10 and #17 for North’s F2 + 2 x future PPs?

 

[scooter600x]

Trade 17 for one of north’s 2024 priority picks
take Wilson/Windsor with 10
if Croft gets bid on by Essendon, they’re welcome to him (they won’t)

 

[cleveland]

Saw this on a dogs page

Would make sense due to how quiet it is.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

The hill came up very quickly for Haynes. He's effectively a monster dead salary for the next couple of years.

I thought Haynes was solid this year. His first half of the year was the best he’s played since he made AA in 2020, would’ve been close to leading intercept possessions and intercept marks in the first 8 weeks or so.

Its just that Himmelberg wasn’t contributing forward and is now better at the role that Haynes was playing, as the third tall/interceptor. Don’t think there is a real way to fit them both into the same backline with Taylor, Buckley and Idun already there who have all become brilliant players.

I think he has some good footy left in him still. He is 32yo at the start of next season, and is owed $1.2m apparently of his back ended contract, so it would be a brave team to pick him up.

 

[coxman]

Saw this on a dogs page

Would make sense due to how quiet it is.
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My only issue with that is it would be hard to hide assistant coaches for all of the preseason

 

[Northernsoul74]

My only issue with that is it would be hard to hide assistant coaches for all of the preseason

Surely we want the group getting to work asap. There must plenty of strategy and planning required before the players return.

 

[BulldogMuscle]

My only issue with that is it would be hard to hide assistant coaches for all of the preseason

Yeah, it's impossible, no idea what they're on about if they think we're gonna just do a pre-season launch and just go ''oh yeah BTW here are our new assistant coaches''

 

[doggies ftw]

I mean they could mean we want to do that next week etc, doesn’t say we want to do it after preseason

 

[coxman]

Surely we want the group getting to work asap. There must plenty of strategy and planning required before the players return.

Exactly the assistants will be there in plain sight from day one

 

[_Cerberus_]

Would take geelongs first and whatever they get for ratugolea for 10 and 17 maybe Simpson as steak knives.

Simpson was delisted.

 

[doggy_dog]

For all the people saying that we might be bad next year, we'll be losing JUH and Naughton and Baz if that is the case, as well as wasting Bont and Libba. Our squad is too good to be a bottom 4 team. So why not risk the future 1st and go hard and start plugging these holes immediately.

If it was an established player of need I wouldn’t have an issue with a future 1st. Issue is it’s unlikely whichever 18 year old we move up to draft will meaningfully impact our performance next season. They might never get there drafting is almost a crapshoot