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Arie being put on blast for all the world to know is the most disappointing aspect.

How does that help anyone?
 

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Arie being put on blast for all the world to know is the most disappointing aspect.

How does that help anyone?
Sometimes tough love is the only approach with some folk. Carrots are fine, but when you run out, there's only the stick that remains.
Broadcasting his fitness issues may bring initial heat, but long term also helps to lower expectations, which gives him the necessary time to work on things.
The kid has clearly got work to do...another poster/track watcher said that he's a long way back fitness wise.
If he gets to work, he'll be fine.
 
Was Arie recovering from anything? Or is he possibly so unfit he cant train with the main group?
Doubt its just he's unfit. I think probably an attitude readjustment. There was a poster saying he missed a session after a big night.

If it was just lack of legs they'd be whipping him during the main sessions. Only so much you can run before you get hurt.

Sending him to the VFL would be more a wake up call.
 
Doubt its just he's unfit. I think probably an attitude readjustment. There was a poster saying he missed a session after a big night.

If it was just lack of legs they'd be whipping him during the main sessions. Only so much you can run before you get hurt.

Sending him to the VFL would be more a wake up call.
Midfielder Zac Jones continues to be carefully managed and again trained away from the main group on Wednesday, while draftee Arie Schoenmaker ran laps for most of the session as he completes an individual conditioning block.
 
Doubt its just he's unfit. I think probably an attitude readjustment. There was a poster saying he missed a session after a big night.

If it was just lack of legs they'd be whipping him during the main sessions. Only so much you can run before you get hurt.

Sending him to the VFL would be more a wake up call.

I thought that was a piss take.

Honestly no idea what's real anymore on this site.

What times training again I'm gonna have to get down myself to make sure this isn't all a dream.
 
Doubt its just he's unfit. I think probably an attitude readjustment. There was a poster saying he missed a session after a big night.

If it was just lack of legs they'd be whipping him during the main sessions. Only so much you can run before you get hurt.

Sending him to the VFL would be more a wake up call.
The 'bridging professional standards line' feels like a quote Cleary was fed to read between the lines on.

It's not like 2024 is make or break for Ari anyway. Once the season kicks off, hopefully not getting picked in the ones lights a fire and gets him on the right track professionally to attack the next preseason.
 
Nothing I have seen at training from Shoenmaker would suggest he is not giving his all or has not got the right attitude.
Cordy was unfit when he got to the Saints, Stocker was unfit when he got to the Saints. Both were put on modified training programs.
It is not unusual. The interesting part will be how he responds and how quickly he can build up his fitness base to a sufficient level.

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Nothing I have seen at training from Shoenmaker would suggest he is not giving his all or has not got the right attitude.
Sometimes professionalism is about what happens off the field as much as on it.

I'm sure we had players who trained and played their hardest but switched off their 'elite sportsman' switch once they left the gates.

Not saying that's what is happening here, but sometimes on field behaviour can be deceiving.
 
Well another embarrassing season has already started to unfold at Moorabbin. Our coach has bullied every good person out of the place, we’re stealing money from a charity, we sack our CEO and now our star draftee has been delisted…..and it’s only January!
Hey that's another way to look.at things!!!!
 
Sometimes professionalism is about what happens off the field as much as on it.

I'm sure we had players who trained and played their hardest but switched off their 'elite sportsman' switch once they left the gates.

Not saying that's what is happening here, but sometimes on field behaviour can be deceiving.
The only thing we can go on is what is in front of us.
He is running laps by himself, when with the group he is working but obviously not hard enough.
Off field issues, and I stress, if any, would be dealt with in other ways.
The proof will be how quickly his fitness is up to standard.
If it's not he will be back in the bush leagues before he knows it.

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The 'bridging professional standards line' feels like a quote Cleary was fed to read between the lines on.

It's not like 2024 is make or break for Ari anyway. Once the season kicks off, hopefully not getting picked in the ones lights a fire and gets him on the right track professionally to attack the next preseason.
Exactly. We have a pretty settled backline as it is, with - I would imagine - a few more senior bodies ahead of him in the pecking order if injuries occur. He's barely had orientation. It's a year of learning for this kid...the dream is now a reality for him, it takes work, so wakey wakey bucko.
VFL will be good for him.
Batch, and this Carrol fella, will put him straight.
 
Exactly. We have a pretty settled backline as it is, with - I would imagine - a few more senior bodies ahead of him in the pecking order if injuries occur. He's barely had orientation. It's a year of learning for this kid...the dream is now a reality for him, it takes work, so wakey wakey bucko.
VFL will be good for him.
Batch, and this Carrol fella, will put him straight.
It hardly matters. We got him with pick 82, the alternative was keeping Dmac whilst we're flush with wingers and maybe Tassie will offer us something for him in a couple of years. Or, he works out and we have a player with some real campaigner and a cannon leg on him.
 

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