List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Into The Black]

Westcoast can facilitate some pretty handy picks if they pay both barass and darlings remaining contracts

Barass is prob worth a 1st and 2nd, pay his contract out and get 12 and and a f1

Darling is worth a 4th rounder if anything, pay his contract and maybe pick 40

12 + f1 on kozzie
40 on best fullback available

Pykes made it clear we will be aggressive this off-season, these are the sort of deals that need to be done

Two first round picks on a 171cm 70 kg midget ?

 

[JackOutback]

I’m just not sure I see the value in trading Darling for a late junk pick. I guess you could say it frees up a spot that could allow us to retain someone on the edge of being delisted, could be used as points for Champion, but it also punts a club legend at the very end and gets rid of some valuable depth. The only reason I’d do it is if he is adamant he wants to play two more years as we wouldn’t be offering that.

 

[MerryHell]

As much as I would take a trade for JD, I don't see old man wanting to up the family to Melbourne this late in his career.

Hopefully I am wrong, I would like to see more of Archer Reid next year, after Jack Williams.

 

[Tugga27]

As much as I would take a trade for JD, I don't see old man wanting to up the family to Melbourne this late in his career.

Hopefully I am wrong, I would like to see more of Archer Reid next year, after Jack Williams.

I'm guessing he's do it for around $750 000 a year.

 

[mat11]

Unless you count Leigh Matthews there is no small forward in the history of football that I’d do this trade for.

Should mention I'm referring to the f1 tied to Hawks not wce

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Unless you count Leigh Matthews there is no small forward in the history of football that I’d do this trade for.

Kevin Bartlett says hi

 

[CountryLad]

As it stands I think this is the most likely outcome.

I would have thought the most likely scenario is that Nth will split with the Tigers.

Tigers take 2 of Jagga, FOS and Reid.

Nth get 2 of Trainor, Shanahan or Armstrong.

Reid continues to go under the radar, he will be ranked higher than many realise by the Melbourne based clubs.

He sits in that top bracket with Jagga, FOS and Ashcroft.

 

[mattyc75]

Pay half of Jack's salary for a year...and ask to swap 1st rounders...

Why would north do that? They've probably got more spare cash for salaries than we do?

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[WCE_phil]

One interesting rumour is that the Tigers are keen to land FOS and Jagga.

How do they do that?

Tigers with Rioli and Bolton trades may end up with 1st round picks 1, 6, 9, 10 and 17,.

Would they offer 6 plus 9 for 3? A few shuffles of later picks.

We get Hawks first at 12ish.

6, 9 and 12 are our fist rounders.

Lalor
Travaglia
Lindsay

All will end up playing midfield minutes but can also play on the flanks.

We need quanity and quality.

I can tell you right now WCE would accept 9,10 and 17 not just for pick 3 but for 3 and 23.

 

[Astro7]

Gotta love trade rumours? If North were silly enough to try, I don't see Darling leaving W.A. As much as he frustrates us at times, he is solid, quality depth and provides leadership. Frees up the salary cap, makes room for someone else, but what sort of pick would you get?

 

[WCE_phil]

CountryLad

Some clubs have Murphy Reid and Harvey Langford top 3.

The only player that seems to be consistently within the top 3 of every club is Smith yet along with FOS is one of 2 top 5 prospects I wouldn't go near. Harley Reid I shit people not could pick up Jagga smith by the jumper in one hand, run, carry, bounce and then kick the ball from the other. Imagine what happens to him in an inside midfield role against gun, established players.....

Draper looks like he could go as high as 2 or as low as 10.

 

[DocT]

Hey cousins, genuine question, interested in your response, I just posted this on the Freo board:

The complicating factor in any trade deals would be a bidding war with West Coast. It would be in both Freo and WCE's interests to be having a quiet chat in the back room of a bar about divvying up the pickings to mutual benefit. I hate to say it but it's true. It's frenemy time.

We could really hurt each other bidding up the price on Pickett/Bolton/Baker/Warner/Whoever.
Is there a unique opportunity for clever cooperation?

 

[eaglevision]

I would have thought the most likely scenario is that Nth will split with the Tigers.

Tigers take 2 of Jagga, FOS and Reid.

Nth get 2 of Trainor, Shanahan or Armstrong.

Reid continues to go under the radar, he will be ranked higher than many realise by the Melbourne based clubs.

He sits in that top bracket with Jagga, FOS and Ashcroft.

From what I’m told Richmond will be prioritising talls with those picks. They’ll be after the same players you mentioned that North would presumably be looking at. So Jagga then a suite of the best talls who happen to be ranked at the picks they are likely to get from trades.

If the mooted trades go through I think Tigers will aim for Jagga then two of Trainor, Shanahan and Armstrong.

 

[Elite Pete]

Hey cousins, genuine question, interested in your response, I just posted this on the Freo board:

The complicating factor in any trade deals would be a bidding war with West Coast. It would be in both Freo and WCE's interests to be having a quiet chat in the back room of a bar about divvying up the pickings to mutual benefit. I hate to say it but it's true. It's frenemy time.

We could really hurt each other bidding up the price on Pickett/Bolton/Baker/Warner/Whoever.
Is there a unique opportunity for clever cooperation?

Makes sense. Out of those 4 names what is your proposal on how to divvy them up? What club gets what 2?

Doubt Pickett and Bolton take a pay cut and would still have to met their current club demands

 

[eaglevision]

Kevin Bartlett says hi

Has been clarified that was Hawks F1 and not ours. KB a chance.

 

[Goroyals22]

Kevin Bartlett says hi

Not even Mitch Brown?


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[mattyc75]

Hey cousins, genuine question, interested in your response, I just posted this on the Freo board:

The complicating factor in any trade deals would be a bidding war with West Coast. It would be in both Freo and WCE's interests to be having a quiet chat in the back room of a bar about divvying up the pickings to mutual benefit. I hate to say it but it's true. It's frenemy time.

We could really hurt each other bidding up the price on Pickett/Bolton/Baker/Warner/Whoever.
Is there a unique opportunity for clever cooperation?

Like when freo stuck their noses in for kelly? Driving his price up

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[Barrybran]

Hey cousins, genuine question, interested in your response, I just posted this on the Freo board:

The complicating factor in any trade deals would be a bidding war with West Coast. It would be in both Freo and WCE's interests to be having a quiet chat in the back room of a bar about divvying up the pickings to mutual benefit. I hate to say it but it's true. It's frenemy time.

We could really hurt each other bidding up the price on Pickett/Bolton/Baker/Warner/Whoever.
Is there a unique opportunity for clever cooperation?

We're not involved with Bolton and we won't be helping Freo with Warner or Baker. Pickett is fairly clear cut to me - two firsts and he's yours with Melbourne paying his salary OR Melbourne won't pay his salary and he lands with us for a lower price. You guys can afford to give Baker more than us so there is a world where I see you guys getting all of Bolton, Pickett and Baker but not Warner.

 

[uncleoatmeal]

CountryLad

Some clubs have Murphy Reid and Harvey Langford top 3.

The only player that seems to be consistently within the top 3 of every club is Smith yet along with FOS is one of 2 top 5 prospects I wouldn't go near. Harley Reid I shit people not could pick up Jagga smith by the jumper in one hand, run, carry, bounce and then kick the ball from the other. Imagine what happens to him in an inside midfield role against gun, established players.....

Draper looks like he could go as high as 2 or as low as 10.

Why wouldn’t you go near FOS? Not enough production this year?

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Hey cousins, genuine question, interested in your response, I just posted this on the Freo board:

The complicating factor in any trade deals would be a bidding war with West Coast. It would be in both Freo and WCE's interests to be having a quiet chat in the back room of a bar about divvying up the pickings to mutual benefit. I hate to say it but it's true. It's frenemy time.

We could really hurt each other bidding up the price on Pickett/Bolton/Baker/Warner/Whoever.
Is there a unique opportunity for clever cooperation?

I still have vivid memories of what you pricks did with Kelly when he requested to be traded to WC, I hold a grudge and I hope we bend you over the trade table and make you squeal!

 

[Peptide Pig]

As much as I would take a trade for JD, I don't see old man wanting to up the family to Melbourne this late in his career.

Hopefully I am wrong, I would like to see more of Archer Reid next year, after Jack Williams.

No one has JD in our best 22 next year and he won’t get an extension at WCE so he may go wherever the $$ and games are for the sake of 2-3 years. Then can put his feet up wherever he likes as a 300+ gamer with some extra cash.

Agree that moving from the WA footy fishbowl to the VIC footy fishbowl doesn’t sound ideal. QLD or NSW would be a good fit but do those clubs have a need for a veteran third tall?

Lions: alongside Daniher and Hipwood?
Swans: McDonald, Amartey and McLean
Giants: alongside Cadman and Hogan?
GC: could use his experience and perhaps a replacement for Lukosious but their talls are set with King, Walter and Mac Daddy (unless he goes to the back line again?)

Surely a contender like Collingwood would show interest, but they have also been linked to other veteran talls such as Tex Walker and Tom Lynch.

 

[shooshka]

No one has JD in our best 22 next year and he won’t get an extension at WCE so he may go wherever the $$ and games are for the sake of 2-3 years. Then can put his feet up wherever he likes as a 300+ gamer with some extra cash.

Agree that moving from the WA footy fishbowl to the VIC footy fishbowl doesn’t sound ideal. QLD or NSW would be a good fit but do those clubs have a need for a veteran third tall?

Lions: alongside Daniher and Hipwood?
Swans: McDonald, Amartey and McLean
Giants: alongside Cadman and Hogan?
GC: could use his experience and perhaps a replacement for Lukosious but their talls are set with King, Walter and Mac Daddy (unless he goes to the back line again?)

Surely a contender like Collingwood would show interest, but they have also been linked to other veteran talls such as Tex Walker and Tom Lynch.

You would think as an AFL player in 2026 and maybe 2027 he is getting absolutely minimum of $300k p.a.

He’s probably not getting that outside of footy, at least not initially.

It makes sense for all involved and if JD is keen we should facilitate and wish him well.

Hoping JD and TB (assuming both leave) aren’t booed. They will be, but should be applauded in some ways for helping the club by leaving


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[WCE_phil]

Why wouldn’t you go near FOS? Not enough production this year?

Not enough production, has seemed timid inside and whenever he starts to get going again he gets injured.

He may end up being a Hugh McLuggage and make a fool of me but I see him as a HB.

 

[WCE_phil]

You would think as an AFL player in 2026 and maybe 2027 he is getting absolutely minimum of $300k p.a.

He’s probably not getting that outside of footy, at least not initially.

It makes sense for all involved and if JD is keen we should facilitate and wish him well.

Hoping JD and TB (assuming both leave) aren’t booed. They will be, but should be applauded in some ways for helping the club by leaving


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IMO knowing the goings on I would boo Barrass.

JD on the other hand does not deserve that. I still don't think he moves but if he does for a 2 year contract and the club pays some of it then so be it.

 

[Hangover Noir]

Has been said but by far his best remaining strength is halving contests. Sounds like a bad thing (shouldn’t forwards be winning them?) but so much of our ball movement plan over recent years has been dump it long to the wing to a 2v1, and Darling will somehow manufacture a stoppage from it more often than not. Very clever at tap ons, timely spoils, stuff you don’t want as your ace from your KPFs but it’s how he’s remained viable.

Work rate can’t be questioned. Regular impact can however. He’ll be in the right spots and you can see his old man body chasing and working, but some games he just doesn’t get anywhere near it with any regularity. As shown this year though, he still has these bizarre quarters and games where you think he’s 10 years younger and he drags you into periods of momentum.

As a work horse to guide a young forward line, and to halve some contests when you’re panic exiting D50, he’ll be an asset. As a match winner or scoreboard impact, he’ll make you tear your hair out with the quarter by quarter rollercoaster experience, and more often than not with where we’re both at you’d simply rather someone younger get the minutes. But if Clarko’s MO is get some experience in to set standards - can’t fault it at all.

For the Eagles, if we got a meaningful pick back (eg 40s not pick 75 or some nonsense) it would be a no brainer and a bit of a win for all parties. If that’s too rich for North, I’d prefer he just ring up game 300 here or test the market elsewhere to see if someone will give up a third rounder for him. But he’s about to be fourth/fifth in line for the only position our list has in absolute spades, so it all makes too much sense if the deal is there to be done.

Halved contest in last minute of Hobart game to give Cripps a chance to goal is evidence enough.