Resource 2024 AFL Draft discussion thread (Wed Nov 20 to Fri Nov 22)

[Mutineer]

Whoever was in charge of picking 2 evenly matched sides obviously failed spectacularly.

2024 SANFL U17 Futures Match Wrap - SANFL

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Team Blue defeated Team Yellow by 66 points in the SANFL U17 Futures match at Adelaide Oval.
After a back-and-forth start, West Adelaide’s Mitchell Marsh opened the scoring for Yellow at the seven-minute mark, before Blue responded courtesy of two goals to Redlegs forward Fergus Myall.
A long-range goal from Sturt’s Harley Barker saw Yellow cut the margin to two points at quarter time.
Two early goals to Central District forward Cameron Nairn was the start of a strong second term for Blue, with majors to Lucas White (West Adelaide) and Sam Cumming (North Adelaide) helping to open up a 22-point margin at half-time.
Blue’s dominance continued in the third quarter with goals to North Adelaide’s Jayden Hawkins and another two to Nairn, while North Adelaide ruckman Ethan Herbert kicked the lone major for Yellow.
Glenelg’s Tim Alver slotted a classy major from the pocket and finished it off with another after the full-time siren as Blue ran out comfortable victors.

Blue Team’s Logan Hughes in action. Picture – Peter Argent

Scoreboard​

BLUE 2.2 6.6 9.8 14.9 (93)
YELLOW 2.0 3.2 4.3 4.5 (29)
BEST – Blue: Darcy Speyer, Tim Alver, Harry Franz, Louis Kellaway, Cameron Nairn, Jayden Hawkins
Yellow: Jim Kelly, Lachie Sands, Balyn O’Brien, Harley Barker, Elliot Duffield, Ethan Herbert
GOALS – Blue: Cameron Nairn 4, Tim Alver 2, Fergus Myall 2, Jayden Hawkins 2, Lucas White, Sam Cumming, Logan Hughes, Noah Roberts-Thomson
Yellow: Mitchell Marsh 2, Harley Barker, Ethan Herbert
At Adelaide Oval

Yellow Team​

Guernsey Number	Player
3	Cain Florance (South)
5	Kobe Gibson (Glenelg)
7	Harper Ryan (West)
9	Gus Downs (West)
11	Archie Van Dyk (South)
15	Luke Candy (Glenelg)
17	Jim Kelly (Norwood)
19	Jordan Ruchs (North)
21	Lachlan Sands (Eagles)
23	Jayden Sochacki (West)
25	Jack Gordon (Central)
27	Memphis Webb (North)
29	Kale Matthews-Hampton (Sturt)
31	Harley Barker (Sturt)
33	Will Prescott (Norwood)
35	Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier (North)
37	Bayln O'Brien (Norwood)
39	Elliot Duffield (South)
41	Mitchell Marsh (West)
43	Reed Francis-Nia Nia (Glenelg)
45	Kai Evans (Central)
47	Ethan Herbert (North)

Blue Team​

Guernsey Number	Player
4	Ben Francou (North)
6	Harvey Croker (Glenelg)
8	Lucas White (West)
10	Louis Kellaway (Sturt)
12	Angus White (South)
16	Thomas Simpson (South)
18	Zackariah Young (North)
20	Jack Cook (Eagles)
22	Tim Alver (Glenelg)
24	Kodah Edwards (South)
26	Noah Roberts-Thomson (Sturt)
28	Cameron Nairn (Central)
30	Jett Dahlitz (Sturt)
32	Koby Moir (Glenelg)
34	Darcy Speyer (Norwood)
36	Sam Cumming (North)
38	Harry Franz (Glenelg)
40	Cameron Woods (South)
42	Fergus Myall (Norwood)
44	Taj Murray (North)
46	Noah Daw (Norwood)
48	Jayden Hawkins (North)
50	Logan Hughes (Eagles)

 

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[FR0GGY]

You were absolutely wrong, the reason all the the lads play where they do is all down to SANFL zones.

So how do you know where Tyson lives?
Or more to the point how should we know where he lives?
Is there some rule he’s not allowed to move that we don’t know about?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I've had a look at all the potential Draftee's at our #4 pick

The question in my mind, is which player suits the way the game is heading .....and our current Midfield mix

Do we need the power & Dusty like qualities of Lalor .....or that in close & breakaway speed of Draper

Lalor has the positional flexibility, which Draper doesn't .....has he the speed & aerobic capacity to two-way run at AFL level, against midfield's that are getting quicker each year ?

Mutineer, Jeffcrowe might be able to throw some light on the above

I'd be happy with either Lalor, or Draper

It’s a fair enough question

I’d say the aerobic capacity and the general body resilience and conditioning is the thing Lalor needs to work on

Not worried re his speed and I think his speed / power thing is a strength

If you are looking at traits to suit modern game I think Draper has all the athletic traits ie speed / endurance mix with a fair bit of agility also , but he breaks down when it comes to kicking IMO

So … each player has their own shortcomings in that top 7-10

Looking at modern trends and the current best team sydney …they have elite kickers and just dismantled port by not giving up the football when in possession so Draper does have huge question marks in that regard

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Off to the Brisbane Lions...

CTL Grand Final Medal to Brisbane Academy's Sam Marshall...don't think he's spent too much time developing in Brisbane's Academy nut!!! Moreso at the Sandringham Devils in the CTL and Melbourne Grammar in the APS Private Schools AFL system.

He’s an absolute star and should be higher on peoples draft boards

He’d actually really suit us with his running , kicking and balanced inside outside game

Shame

 

[Mutineer]

So how do you know where Tyson lives?
Or more to the point how should we know where he lives?
Is there some rule he’s not allowed to move that we don’t know about?

Just give it up FFS his kids were tied to Glenelg because they resided in Glenelg's SANFL metropolitan zone.

Same reason Fogarty and Pedlar played for Glenelg via their SANFL club's country zone

Same reason Newchurch played for North Adelaide, it's their SANFL country zone.

For the record Tyson is a real estate agent at Ray White Glenelg and has been for some time.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1w1rrxYpcz4aM6FuROchiuj4PyXqjjrg&ll=-32.221064673364204%2C135.218575890625&z=5

 

[Danger in Texas]

He’s an absolute star and should be higher on peoples draft boards

He’d actually really suit us with his running , kicking and balanced inside outside game

Shame

Yeah seems like a real natural footballer, clearly a big game player, too. Think I might have underrated him a bit

 

[FR0GGY]

Just give it up FFS his kids were tied to Glenelg because they resided in Glenelg's SANFL metropolitan zone.

Same reason Fogarty and Pedlar played for Glenelg via their SANFL club's country zone

Same reason Newchurch played for North Adelaide, it's their SANFL country zone.

For the record Tyson is a real estate agent at Ray White Glenelg and has been for some time.

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Yes the point being and has been the whole way along, is the only way the answer was “obvious” as you said, would be to know where Tyson and his lad live, which 99% of people on here wouldn’t.
We all know there are zones.
Stating where he works has zero relevance.

 

[Mutineer]

Yes the point being and has been the whole way along, is the only way the answer was “obvious” as you said, would be to know where Tyson and his lad live, which 99% of people on here wouldn’t.
We all know there are zones.
Stating where he works has zero relevance.

You can continue with out me...I'm out.

 

[LoBu]

Ed Pascoes' latest power rankings as per his twitter

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[Trigger13]

Ed Pascoes' latest power rankings as per his twitterView attachment 2118780

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Geez, taking Smilie at our pick would be very uninspiring.

 

[Mostyn]

Ed Pascoes' latest power rankings as per his twitterView attachment 2118780

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Interesting, though I think some of those talls might go a bit earlier.

 

[Gary123]

You can continue with out me...I'm out.

 

[budget]

Seeing what Raynor did tonight makes me think we should pick Lalor

We need all the marking presents we can get,just look how dangerous jhf is resting forward. I think he would be a huge asset to us.


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[WaynesWorld19]

Ed Pascoes' latest power rankings as per his twitterView attachment 2118780

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I believe Ed said himself, his viewing of draftees this year is not as thorough as previous years ....take his rankings without a great deal of certainty

 

[noobermensch]

A quite remarkable performance from Ollie Hannaford who must have run Sam Marshall close for the grand final BOG medal even in a losing side. He seemed to have a hand in everything good for the Rebels, attacking contests hard, winning the footy and making excellent descisions with quality disposal. With his team facing such a deficit he would have been forgiven for dropping off his energy and workrate, or at least showing signs of frustration, but he never wavered in his energetic attempts to drive his team forward and create positive outcomes. This kind of performance on the biggest junior stage in the face of adversity franks his outstanding form through the back half of the Talent League season and should see his draft prospects significantly boosted.

 

[Mutineer]

A quite remarkable performance from Ollie Hannaford who must have run Sam Marshall close for the grand final BOG medal even in a losing side. He seemed to have a hand in everything good for the Rebels, attacking contests hard, winning the footy and making excellent descisions with quality disposal. With his team facing such a deficit he would have been forgiven for dropping off his energy and workrate, or at least showing signs of frustration, but he never wavered in his energetic attempts to drive his team forward and create positive outcomes. This kind of performance on the biggest junior stage in the face of adversity franks his outstanding form through the back half of the Talent League season and should see his draft prospects significantly boosted.

That's my boy!!!

Absolute ripper lad too...plenty of SA rellies too

No small forward in this draft has close to Ollie's ferocity at the contest and as we can see he ain't no shrinking violet in the midfield as a bonus.

 

[TBM]

No idea if he's on AFL club's radars but can't help but admire Dom Brew's leadership and passion.

Runaway JJ Liston Trophy winner, then backed up with 31 touches including 27 contested possessions in the Grand Final yesterday. I'm sure he has AFL limitations, but a pure heart-and-soul player - massive will for the contest and never-give-up attitude.

Seems like a ripping bloke, would love to see him get a crack somewhere.

Werribee hangs on to win VFL flag against surging Southport

The Sharks were circling but couldn't quite catch Tigers in a state league thriller

www.afl.com.au

 

[Mutineer]

By the way hat bone crunching tackle Ollie layed on Murphy Reid saw Reid limp off and take no further part. Don't know exactly what the injury was but might put Murphy Reid in doubt for the Combine. Doubt it would effect Reid's draft position because let's face it he's no athletic beast, pretty pedestrian speed wise and athletically but high end footy smarts, composure and elite skills.

 

[Mostyn]

This feels like a draft where some really good players will be drafted late teens to mid 20s.

 

[Draft Bored]

By the way hat bone crunching tackle Ollie layed on Murphy Reid saw Reid limp off and take no further part. Don't know exactly what the injury was but might put Murphy Reid in doubt for the Combine. Doubt it would effect Reid's draft position because let's face it he's no athletic beast, pretty pedestrian speed wise and athletically but high end footy smarts, composure and elite skills.

The highlights from that game are pretty impressive. Where is Hannaford projected to go?

Liking the future first for Luko + 20 trade suggestion even more when you consider the draft could roll this way:

4: Lalor
20: Dodson
25: Hannaford

Somehow upgrade 42 to a pick in the 30s for ANB.

 

[TBM]

This feels like a draft where some really good players will be drafted late teens to mid 20s.

Been a while since this much depth is available in the 30s too.

 

[Mostyn]

Somehow upgrade 42 to a pick in the 30s for ANB.

I think this is the right strategy for ANB.

Not sure how we do that?

MAYBE it's F1 and 42 for Luko, 20 and 37?

 

[Mostyn]

We also need to contrive our list to get four picks in the draft. Currently, we don't have that.

 

[screech]

His son will be playing at Sturt because it's the SANFL zone he lives in.

The same as Tyson's kids, they live in the Glenelg zone.

Why do Scott Camporeale's 2 lads play for Glenelg and not WWT then?

In the SANFL there is a father/son rule (1 or more games at League, Reserves, U/19/18/17). The option is there for the kid to register with their father's club or their zoned club. Having been involved at community football level, I generally find the kids go with the zoned club as they usually head out with friends from their local club or school, and geographically it makes sense too, particularly for the metro kids. Since the AFL is now the focus of all the media, most of the kids coming through have very little connection/passion for the SANFL, other than as a stepping-stone for the talent pathway.