Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVI - 'Loopy' Season in full swing

[HereComesJuddy]

Austin didn't state it, when the statement was made by the reporter, he didn't confirm or refute it

That's what I said

He doesn’t need to state or refute it. It’s widely known Owies has not had a contract put in front of him by Carlton. I’m sorry for stating the facts. It won’t happen again

 

[swuzzlebubble]

He doesn’t need to state or refute it. It’s widely known Owies has not had a contract put in front of him by Carlton. I’m sorry for stating the facts. It won’t happen again

All this agreement is tiresome. I come here for disputes and argument thanks.

 

[Soapy V]

He doesn’t need to state or refute it. It’s widely known Owies has not had a contract put in front of him by Carlton. I’m sorry for stating the facts. It won’t happen again

There is a real chance that even if someone doesn’t pick him up we may not either. All depends on other deals

 

[Soapy V]

Cerra has genetically weak hamstrings. Loses his hamstring strength quicker than anyone else on the list. This comes from a Carlton physio contact. I highly doubt he’s issues are resolved from a short Qatar trip.

Need heard that before. I’ll ask

 

[Blue and Blue]

That pies rumour came from someone who registered an account just before posting it, fwiw

That never happens on our board right.......................

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

Need heard that before. I’ll ask

Yup. Whenever he comes back from a break, he has lost the most hamstring strength in the playing group.

 

[Arr0w]

He doesn’t need to state or refute it. It’s widely known Owies has not had a contract put in front of him by Carlton. I’m sorry for stating the facts. It won’t happen again

It sort of came across that you were implying Austin made the statement

As for widely known, everyone gets different information, but I do know, he won't get the contract he wants/driving, at Carlton

 

[Lukeblueboy]

Sounds like Austin has a lot of open ended running wild fires going on atm,
With a whole lot of irons sticking out

 

[Soapy V]

Forgot about Young, which id prefer us to play on those similar sized forwards as himself, instead of mismatching McGovern and Kemp on them…

Thought he stood up well enough when playing in the later part of the season, we know his limitations…

There’s also Jack as well. Probably enough to carry on one list

 

[Arr0w]

Sounds like Austin has a lot of open ended running wild fires going on atm,
With a whole lot of irons sticking out

It's a good thing, having options for the draft and or trading creates better outcomes, well, as long as the selections and cost aligns

 

[HereComesJuddy]

It sort of came across that you were implying Austin made the statement

As for widely known, everyone gets different information, but I do know, he won't get the contract he wants/driving, at Carlton

Never once said Austin stated it. It was said by our media team and then I’m sure the club checked it before posting it as would have Austin.

People have stated on here over the past few weeks he has been offered a contract and that’s just wrong.

 

[macky99]

Cerra has genetically weak hamstrings. Loses his hamstring strength quicker than anyone else on the list. This comes from a Carlton physio contact. I highly doubt he’s issues are resolved from a short Qatar trip.

Hasn't been a issue in his career until late in the 23 season, no reason to believe at his age the problem cannot be resolved going forward.

 

[Arr0w]

Never once said Austin stated it. It was said by our media team and then I’m sure the club checked it before posting it as would have Austin.

People have stated on here over the past few weeks he has been offered a contract and that’s just wrong.

So you can categorically prove that this is fact?

I've heard differently, that he has been offered minimal terms/salary

 

[Soapy V]

Never once said Austin stated it. It was said by our media team and then I’m sure the club checked it before posting it as would have Austin.

People have stated on here over the past few weeks he has been offered a contract and that’s just wrong.

Can confirm. Hasn’t even had chance to discuss. Right or Wrong these are the facts

 

[Wickzki]

As for widely known, everyone gets different information, but I do know, he won't get the contract he wants/driving, at Carlton

This is the info I've been working off of as well.

It's not as though he won't get an offer at all from Carlton.

It's that the offer we have for him wont be close to the best offer he'll get around the league. To the degree of a couple hundred thousand per season. For example, he's looking at 200-300k with us when he's getting 400-500k+ elsewhere.

I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he ended up saying "**** it. I want to stay." But that's potentially life changing type differences of money he's turning down (e.g. half a mil over two seasons)

People have stated on here over the past few weeks he has been offered a contract and that’s just wrong.

I think the difference posters need to understand is the difference between "won't be offered a contwct" and "hasn't been offered a contract."

 

[HereComesJuddy]

So you can categorically prove that this is fact?

I've heard differently, that he has been offered minimal terms/salary

I’ll ask you the same… Can you categorically prove he has been presented a contract as fact?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

This comes from a Carlton physio contact. I highly doubt he’s issues are resolved from a short Qatar trip.

If they're like my physio they'll give him some exercises and say come back in two weeks

 

[SurreyBlue]

Rumours on the Pies board is that the deal for Houston and Ollie Lord is already agreed with the Power.

Surely Port don’t intent losing Lord. That would be suicide.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

This is the info I've been working off of as well.

It's not as though he won't get an offer at all from Carlton.

It's that the offer we have for him wont be close to the best offer he'll get around the league. To the degree of a couple hundred thousand per season. For example, he's looking at 200-300k with us when he's getting 400-500k+ elsewhere.

I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he ended up saying "**** it. I want to stay." But that's potentially life changing type differences of money he's turning down (e.g. half a mil over two seasons)




I think the difference posters need to understand is the difference between "won't be offered a contwct" and "hasn't been offered a contract."

100%
At this point he hasn’t been offered a contract.
If we get to the end of this month and no one has offered him a contract will we, well maybe. But he definitely hasn’t been offered a contract at this point

 

[Arr0w]

I’ll ask you the same… Can you categorically prove he has been presented a contract as fact?

I've never stated it as fact, just what I was told, which I always put over the slide rule

I think you have stated it as fact a number of times, which is fine, nor would I expect you to reveal a source

 

[Soapy V]

100%
At this point he hasn’t been offered a contract.
If we get to the end of this month and no one has offered him a contract will we, well maybe. But he definitely hasn’t been offered a contract at this point

The way it was put it me is if no one else wants him it may well depend on moving on others and bringing in Houston etc

Like others his future is dependent on other deals

Time will tell

 

[RoyalBlues]

So you can categorically prove that this is fact?

I've heard differently, that he has been offered minimal terms/salary

I think this is the ‘celery package’ offered to Owies.

Shrinkflation may be a factor

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Is it a rule players need an offer to be able to be traded? In which case if Owies doesn't have one yet, he'd need one before any trade can happen.

 

[RattAttack]

There is a real chance that even if someone doesn’t pick him up we may not either. All depends on other deals

And this is exactly why the offers for Owies are not coming…yet.

If clubs think there is a small chance that we don’t even offer a contract, they will be waiting for him to become a DFA.

 

[Soapy V]

Is it a rule players need an offer to be able to be traded? In which case if Owies doesn't have one yet, he'd need one before any trade can happen.

He’s contracted to 31 Oct so we can trade unless we delist prior