List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[Cousin of Daicos]

 

[sr36]

So now we know why 13 is so important to Port!

It’s this line that remains intriguing to me “The Pies are being urged to consider their net win across the free agency and trade period by handing over 13 and 23.” because whoever that is within the industry needs to mind their own backyard and if it’s journalistic creativity **** off Ralph.

The article did make it make more sense how we could be considering pick 13 and Richards as in the ball park for Houston.. If it's as deep a draft as people say and Sydney are willing to pay 19 and 22 for 13, it's the equivalent of 2 normal first round picks and Richards for Houston.

 

[HFF]

Consider the net win?
Laughable
Perryman has nothing to do with this proposal.
Ralph is a moron.

We now know why pick 13 is crucial especially with Swans willing to hand over 19 and 22 for it.

We should hold firm and tell the Power you can have 19 and 22 if you don’t want 13 and Richards on its own.

 

[JLC]

If we go from forward back ups of Johnson and Kreuger to

Jack Hayes and Ollie Lord

That's a decent upgrade and would provide very good competition for spots.

 

[Bramax]

Then we’re not as set in keeping any other picks we’re negotiating with and just pass everything over to Port is my guess

Geez.
Imagine walking away from this trade period with Perryman, Houston and Lord.

 

[Tadpole]

The Pies are being "urged" by who?

There’s medication for those kind of urges.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

 

[HoraceStrasbork]

I think Lord has something

I think Lord has something

 

[RobJD]

That makes sense, but it’s overs for Lord. Gut feel is we want the pick for the draft to select our own. If push comes to shove I’d do that deal and forgo the draft for the known quantity.

Maybe get Port's 39 and see if we can package 36 and 52 for GCS 29.

 

[Vankri]

That is where Fly needs to coach Nick better and make him a more rounded player.

It goes against all his instincts but I think Nick needs to learn that sometimes as an inside mid you go quick and long to a contest. He’s got the best vision in the comp so he always looks for the perfect creative option but sometimes there aren’t any and his DE suffers as a result.

Checkers and McStay better get their arses fit and be prepared for some sore chests after every game then with that much leather thumping into it

If we get Houston it solves such a big challenge for us when we struggle to get the ball out of our D50 when our handball/corridor game is cleverly stifled by the opposition. Watch him launch the ball 60m quickly to McStay and Cameron in particular and watch our number of contested marks skyrocket

 

[Ugene41]

Mac Andrew? You may want to check up on his contract extension...

Great, salary dump for a second rounder

 

[sr36]

The Pies are being "urged" by who?

Kane - hard to crap on about us destroying our future if we walk away with a decent pick.

 

[sam_e]

I think Lord has something

yep, he's from the covid affected 2020 draft that we strategically went balls-deep in on, whilst Dekka had his random lottery number generator out by either 1 or 2 ..

1​	Jamarra Ugle-Hagan	Western Bulldogs
2​	Riley Thilthorpe	Adelaide
3​	Will Phillips	North Melbourne
4​	Logan McDonald	Sydney
5​	Braeden Campbell	Sydney
6​	Denver Grainger-Barras	Hawthorn
7​	Elijah Hollands	Gold Coast
8​	Nik Cox	Essendon
9​	Archie Perkins	Essendon
10​	Zach Reid	Essendon
11​	Luke Pedlar	Adelaide
12​	Tanner Bruhn	Greater Western Sydney
13​	Tom Powell	North Melbourne
14​	Heath Chapman	Freemantle
15​	Conor Stone	Greater Western Sydney
16​	Lachie Jones	Port Adelaide
17​	Oliver Henry	Collingwood	GUN but FAIL ('mommy')
18​	Ryan Angwin	Greater Western Sydney
19​	Finlay Macrae	Collingwood	FAIL
20​	Max Holmes	Geelong	GUN - Dekka pick out by 1
21​	Jake Bowey+	Melbourne
22​	Bailey Laurie	Melbourne
23​	Reef McInnes	Collingwood	FAIL
24​	Blake Coleman	Brisbane Lions
25​	Brayden Cook	Adelaide
26​	Matthew McLeod-Allison	St Kilda
27​	Nathan O'Driscoll
28​	Sam Berry	Adelaide
29​	Seamus Mitchell	Hawthorn
30​	Caleb Poulter	Collingwood	FAIL
31​	Liam McMahon	Collingwood	FAIL
32​	Errol Gulden	Sydney	GUN - academy
33​	Shannon Neale	Geelong	GUN - Dekka pick out by 2
34​	Fraser Rosman	Melbourne
35​	Connor Downie	Hawthorn
36​	Charlie Lazzaro	North Melbourne
37​	Corey Durdin	Carlton
38​	James Rowe	Adelaide
39​	Josh Eyre	Essendon	SSP pick start '24
40​	Samson Ryan	Richmond
41​	Jack Carroll	Carlton
42​	Phoenix Spicer	North Melbourne
43​	Harry Sharp
44​	Beau McCreery	Collingwood	GUN - Dekka pick out by 0
45​	Tom Highmore	St Kilda
46​	Tyler Brockman	Hawthorn
47​	Nick Stevens	Geelong
48​	Henry Smith	Brisbane Lions
49​	Ollie Lord	Port Adelaide	Part of Houston trade??
50​	Brandon Walker	Fremantle
51​	Maurice Rioli Jr.	Richmond
52​	Luke Edwards
53​	Cody Brand	Essendon
54​	Joel Western	Fremantle
55​	Dominic Bedendo	Western Bulldogs
56​	Eddie Ford	North Melbourne	what are the chances?
57​	Isiah Winder	West Coast
58​	Cameron Fleeton	Greater Western Sydney
59​	Jacob Wehr	Greater Western Sydney

 

[Piesinfront]

That makes sense, but it’s overs for Lord. Gut feel is we want the pick for the draft to select our own. If push comes to shove I’d do that deal and forgo the draft for the known quantity.

but 23 would be part for Lord and part for Houston (as Port don't see 13 and Richards as adequate).....

 

[danielnajdek]

So one report says the talks are going good yet another says it's at a stalemate. So basically no one knows what's going on.

 

[Apex36]

I think Lord has something

Like, a disease? Is he infectious?

 

[Antz]

So one report says the talks are going good yet another says it's at a stalemate. So basically no one knows what's going on.

Yep, pretty much sums it up. Everyone is guessing, including the journos.

 

[Visions]

So now we know why 13 is so important to Port!

It’s this line that remains intriguing to me “The Pies are being urged to consider their net win across the free agency and trade period by handing over 13 and 23.” because whoever that is within the industry needs to mind their own backyard and if it’s journalistic creativity **** off Ralph.

Whats this about pick 23 for Houston?

From all reports GC don’t even want to give it to us in the first place!

More fantasy journalism.

 

[nahnah]

yep, he's from the covid affected 2020 draft that we strategically went balls-deep in on, whilst Dekka had his random lottery number generator out by either 1 or 2 ..

1​	Jamarra Ugle-Hagan	Western Bulldogs
2​	Riley Thilthorpe	Adelaide
3​	Will Phillips	North Melbourne
4​	Logan McDonald	Sydney
5​	Braeden Campbell	Sydney
6​	Denver Grainger-Barras	Hawthorn
7​	Elijah Hollands	Gold Coast
8​	Nik Cox	Essendon
9​	Archie Perkins	Essendon
10​	Zach Reid	Essendon
11​	Luke Pedlar	Adelaide
12​	Tanner Bruhn	Greater Western Sydney
13​	Tom Powell	North Melbourne
14​	Heath Chapman	Freemantle
15​	Conor Stone	Greater Western Sydney
16​	Lachie Jones	Port Adelaide
17​	Oliver Henry	Collingwood	GUN but FAIL ('mommy')
18​	Ryan Angwin	Greater Western Sydney
19​	Finlay Macrae	Collingwood	FAIL
20​	Max Holmes	Geelong	GUN - Dekka pick out by 1
21​	Jake Bowey+	Melbourne
22​	Bailey Laurie	Melbourne
23​	Reef McInnes	Collingwood	FAIL
24​	Blake Coleman	Brisbane Lions	GUN - academy pick
25​	Brayden Cook	Adelaide
26​	Matthew McLeod-Allison	St Kilda
27​	Nathan O'Driscoll
28​	Sam Berry	Adelaide
29​	Seamus Mitchell	Hawthorn
30​	Caleb Poulter	Collingwood	FAIL
31​	Liam McMahon	Collingwood	FAIL
32​	Errol Gulden	Sydney	GUN - Dekka pick out by 2
33​	Shannon Neale	Geelong	GUN - Dekka pick out by 2
34​	Fraser Rosman	Melbourne
35​	Connor Downie	Hawthorn
36​	Charlie Lazzaro	North Melbourne
37​	Corey Durdin	Carlton
38​	James Rowe	Adelaide
39​	Josh Eyre	Essendon	SSP pick start '24
40​	Samson Ryan	Richmond
41​	Jack Carroll	Carlton
42​	Phoenix Spicer	North Melbourne
43​	Harry Sharp
44​	Beau McCreery	Collingwood	GUN - Dekka pick out by 0
45​	Tom Highmore	St Kilda
46​	Tyler Brockman	Hawthorn
47​	Nick Stevens	Geelong
48​	Henry Smith	Brisbane Lions
49​	Ollie Lord	Port Adelaide	Part of Houston trade??
50​	Brandon Walker	Fremantle
51​	Maurice Rioli Jr.	Richmond
52​	Luke Edwards
53​	Cody Brand	Essendon
54​	Joel Western	Fremantle
55​	Dominic Bedendo	Western Bulldogs
56​	Eddie Ford	North Melbourne	what are the chances?
57​	Isiah Winder	West Coast
58​	Cameron Fleeton	Greater Western Sydney
59​	Jacob Wehr	Greater Western Sydney

Wrong Coleman, that one’s been delisted
Thought Gulden was academy

 

[JOELY]

Yep, pretty much sums it up. Everyone is guessing, including the journos.

I dunno, I just read the Twomey article and there's a lot of very specific info.

This whole current standoff with all the moving pieces is quite fascinating.

 

[sr36]

So one report says the talks are going good yet another says it's at a stalemate. So basically no one knows what's going on.

It's one and the same isn't it. Made their requests and close enough for it to be going well, but they're not accepting these early requests so it's a stalemate.

 

[3rdMan]

The Pies are being urged to consider their net win across the free agency and trade period by handing over 13 and 23

This comment is ridiculous, so you are viewed to win on a trade or free agency pick so you should pay over what a player is worth! We got Perryman for free, but we had to pay him well above market.

Dumbest argument I've heard. "But you got a free agent so you can give us more in a trade"

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

So one report says the talks are going good yet another says it's at a stalemate. So basically no one knows what's going on.

The only ones saying negative things are the ones hoping Collingwood can't get the deal done

Odds are the deal is already done and they're saving it for final day.

Dan will probably be at AIA on Monday to record all the content so hopefully Jen2310 can get there to catch them in the act

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I don’t think we are that far away from the suns. And it’s Collingwood that needs to find a sweetener. Not them. To put it frankly Noble is not worth pick 23 which is the net of the trade being offered. We need to ask for a lower pick or offer a pick back in exchange.

Reckon once we find a better trade price for Noble, the Houston domino will easily fall.

The lukocious trade doesn’t need to involve Collingwood.

 

[JLC]

In respect of the salary cap - Jimmy Bartel was talking about the flexibility of long term contracts and shifting , money around. You then have bonuses for brownlow, bfs, mid season draft etc

Does a club lodge some sort of am annual salary cap report in a self assessment type system? Does the afl sample clubs to examine?

I am very skeptical as to how stringently the salary cap is administered and the accuracy of club reports.

What are people's thoughts?