List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

giantroo · Oct 4, 2024

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3 K 5.8 2 HB 5.4 4 M 2.7 3 T 3.2 5 MG 179.2 3 D 8.1 2 K 4.9 2 HB 3.3 2 M 2.0 2 T 2.6 4 MG 144.9 3 D 9.0 3 K 3.8 2 HB 5.2 4 M 0.8 1 T 3.8 5 MG 160.2 3 , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3 K 6.9 3 HB 5.4 4 M 2.8 3 T 2.9 4 CL 1.4 4 D 12.7 3 K 9.2 4 HB 3.5 2 M 3.0 3 T 2.7 4 CL 1.8 4 D 9.2 3 K 4.6 2 HB 4.6 4 M 2.0 3 T 2.6 4 CL 0.0 1 , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4 K 9.2 4 HB 7.1 4 M 3.5 4 T 2.0 4 MG 186.1 3 D 14.2 3 K 7.7 3 HB 6.5 4 M 3.2 3 T 1.8 3 MG 149.7 3 D 18.8 5 K 11.0 4 HB 7.8 5 M 4.0 4 T 2.2 4 MG 229.8 4	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5 K 11.8 4 HB 6.4 4 M 4.9 5 T 3.0 5 MG 289.2 4 D 17.6 4 K 11.6 4 HB 6.0 3 M 3.3 3 T 3.4 4 MG 319.9 5 D 16.6 4 K 12.4 5 HB 4.2 4 M 7.0 5 T 2.6 4 MG 279.8 5 , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4 to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius, Richards, Rory Atkins, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

roos_fanatic08 · 2024-10-17T10:57:51+1100

Firebat said:
That’s a depressing 22 & depth chart. I hadn’t committed to the exercise of putting it all on paper but now seeing it… let’s not trade F1

I think that 22 is okay, especially so, if the likes of Wardlaw, Kerch, Durrsma, Goater and Powell really come into their own.

However, if the above players don't really develop the way we expect them to, things still look pretty bleak.

backtothedraft · 2024-10-17T10:59:24+1100

roos_fanatic08 said:
B: Archer, Comben, Corr
HB: Daniel, Logue, Goater
C: McKercher, Parker, Scott
HF: Durrsma, Darling, Sheezel
F: Curtis, Larkey, Zurhaar
Foll: Xerri, Wardlaw, LDU
Int: Simpkin, Tucker, Powell, Fisher
Sub: Stephenson

Defensive Depth: Hardeman, Mcdonald, K.Dawson, W.Dawson, Bergman, George

Midfield Depth: Stephens, Phillips, Lazzaro

Forward Depth: Ford, Maley, Payne, Konstanty, Teakle, Pink, RJH.

Ruck Depth: CCJ & Goad

It's quite unbelievable that despite all the drafting of midfielders over the previous 4/5 drafts that we still have absolutely no depth in that part of the ground.

Brisbane Midfielders: Neale, Dunkley, Berry, McCluggage, Ashcroft, Bailey, Fletcher, Reville, Tunstill, Torrent

North Midfielders: Davies-Uniacke, Wardlaw, Sheezel, Simpkin, Parker, McKercher, Powell, Scott, Phillips, Stephens, Lazzaro

berniemccarthy · 2024-10-17T11:01:31+1100

Spud11 said:
Bartel is cool

Easily the most rational person on

gokangas said:
Herald Sun's take on our trades.

IN: Jack Darling (West Coast), Caleb Daniel (Western Bulldogs), Luke Parker (Sydney), Jacob Konstanty (Sydney)
OUT: Nil
2024 PICKS: 2, 62
2025 PICKS: No change
Brady Rawlings started the trade period wanting four players and he got four players, just not the best one he wanted. Dan Houston is missing from North Melbourne’s plans, with Jacob Konstanty thrown in late. The Roos didn’t want to dip too far into their draft hand – they put a full hand in like a kid reaching into a showbag. Now they surely have to split pick two and gain a better footprint. How does Jack Darling help? Luke Parker has been brought in for experience, Caleb Daniel couldn’t make it work this year at the Dogs and Konstanty was about to be cut. It may be harsh but these moves on their own don’t make the Roos much better and now they don’t have much draft capital left.
RATING: 3.5/10

Siri. Show me someone who doesn’t watch North play making comments on their list.

koshari · 2024-10-17T11:01:53+1100

Shinboner1 said:
Get plodders like CCJ off the books and we're looking better.

Laz,s days are probably numbered, Elvis is at the same crossroads Curtis taylor was at last year and the balls in his court, sleevo cooked will be delisted when his contract expires and is extremely lucky to still have a chair at the table.

pink, drury , bobby dazler and harvey well are in speculative territory and properly have a year to show something,

so potentially 7 or 8 easy calls including CCJ next year.

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-17T11:07:54+1100

roos_fanatic08 said:
B: Archer, Comben, Corr
HB: Daniel, Logue, Goater
C: McKercher, Parker, Scott
HF: Durrsma, Darling, Sheezel
F: Curtis, Larkey, Zurhaar
Foll: Xerri, Wardlaw, LDU
Int: Simpkin, Tucker, Powell, Fisher
Sub: Stephenson

Defensive Depth: Hardeman, Mcdonald, K.Dawson, W.Dawson, Bergman, George

Midfield Depth: Stephens, Phillips, Lazzaro

Forward Depth: Ford, Maley, Payne, Konstanty, Teakle, Pink, RJH.

Ruck Depth: CCJ & Goad

It's quite unbelievable that despite all the drafting of midfielders over the previous 4/5 drafts that we still have absolutely no depth in that part of the ground.

Guess the flipside is that your best 22 has more players who would rotate through midfield than most.

Parker, Wardlaw, LDU, Simpkin, Powell, Sheezel, and one day soon McKercher - that's 7.

Most teams would have 5 or 6 mids getting 20%+ of overall stoppage time.

eg. After Butters / Rozee/ JHF / Wines / Drew, who has Port got?

Disco Dew · 2024-10-17T11:10:40+1100

Makeshift Park said:
eg. After Butters / Rozee/ JHF / Wines / Drew, who has Port got?

Rory Atkins

AnEmptyChair · 2024-10-17T11:11:36+1100

Makeshift Park said:
Guess the flipside is that your best 22 has more players who would rotate through midfield than most.

Parker, Wardlaw, LDU, Simpkin, Powell, Sheezel, and one day soon McKercher - that's 7.

Most teams would have 5 or 6 mids getting 20%+ of overall stoppage time.

eg. After Butters / Rozee/ JHF / Wines / Drew, who has Port got?

Exactly. It's just finding things to whine about for whinings sake. It's so tiring and makes this place so much shitter than it used to be

shintemaster · 2024-10-17T11:13:10+1100

Supreme_Chancellor said:
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This made me burst out laughing

At least we found Clarko's username.

These talking head ponces do my head in - as if Damien Barrett has ever displayed more knowledge about football than the average kid on the street.

Shinboner1 · 2024-10-17T11:14:04+1100

roos_fanatic08 said:
B: Archer, Comben, Corr
HB: Daniel, Logue, Goater
C: McKercher, Parker, Scott
HF: Durrsma, Darling, Sheezel
F: Curtis, Larkey, Zurhaar
Foll: Xerri, Wardlaw, LDU
Int: Simpkin, Tucker, Powell, Fisher
Sub: Stephenson

Defensive Depth: Hardeman, Mcdonald, K.Dawson, W.Dawson, Bergman, George

Midfield Depth: Stephens, Phillips, Lazzaro

Forward Depth: Ford, Maley, Payne, Konstanty, Teakle, Pink, RJH.

Ruck Depth: CCJ & Goad

It's quite unbelievable that despite all the drafting of midfielders over the previous 4/5 drafts that we still have absolutely no depth in that part of the ground.

I can see players like George and Bergman getting a run through the mids too.
Just need to build fitness, strength and size.
You'd expect Lazz and Phillips getting 30+ every week in the VFL next year to keep a spot.
Mids seem to be the easiest spot to find VFL cover.

The Filth Wizard · 2024-10-17T11:15:42+1100

koshari said:
Laz,s days are probably numbered, Elvis is at the same crossroads Curtis taylor was at last year and the balls in his court, sleevo cooked will be delisted when his contract expires and is extremely lucky to still have a chair at the table.

pink, drury , bobby dazler and harvey well are in speculative territory and properly have a year to show something,

so potentially 7 or 8 easy calls including CCJ next year.

I'm reliably informed Elvis isn't leaving anything to chance in this off season.

shintemaster · 2024-10-17T11:22:40+1100

The Filth Wizard said:
I'm reliably informed Elvis isn't leaving anything to chance in this off season.

Smart of him if so. He is a fair way off fitness wise, has tricks but tricks aren't enough at AFL level. I still see his best shot being a HHF that really works up the ground as his field kicking is his biggest weapon at the level. Needs to be fit as f to do that though.

travelli · 2024-10-17T11:24:19+1100

speedy said:
Our list looks ****ing shit….still.

There is just a few cloggers in there who we gave long contracts to.

We added genuine, top 22 proven players in this trade and we will look better as the cloggers sift out.

Lomas · 2024-10-17T11:27:58+1100

travelli said:
There is just a few cloggers in there who we gave long contracts to.

We added genuine, top 22 proven players in this trade and we will look better as the cloggers sift out.

We should just pay a few out and be done with it. We have the Houston money.

BlueandWhiteinmyBlood · 2024-10-17T11:29:05+1100

The Warlord said:
6 and 11 seems most likely.

Given we achieved all our goals in the trade period, albeit at a premium, I'd rather we didn't trade our F1 now.

I don’t mind trading in future first, I’d prefer that over splitting 2 to be honest. If we keep 2 and really do take best available we will very nearly get an automatic jet. With being able to trade futures two years in advance from next year we will have opportunities to trade back into the first round if there is someone we really like. We could take a leaf out of melbournes book re this tactic, something they are actually good at.

koshari · 2024-10-17T11:30:36+1100

The Filth Wizard said:
I'm reliably informed Elvis isn't leaving anything to chance in this off season.

i hope so , i dont really want to see him "leave the building"

Lomas · 2024-10-17T11:31:47+1100

koshari said:
i hope so , i dont really want to see him "leave the building"

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Don't be cruel.

koshari · 2024-10-17T11:32:20+1100

BlueandWhiteinmyBlood said:
I don’t mind trading in future first, I’d prefer that over splitting 2 to be honest. If we keep 2 and really do take best available we will very nearly get an automatic jet. With being able to trade futures two years in advance from next year we will have opportunities to trade back into the first round if there is someone we really like. We could take a leaf out of melbournes book re this tactic, something they are actually good at.

but thats the thing, its a really close draft, 2 likley wont be much better than 8

koshari · 2024-10-17T11:33:46+1100

Lomas said:
Don't be cruel.

you can say anything,

GS WARRIORS · 2024-10-17T11:40:18+1100

shintemaster said:
Smart of him if so. He is a fair way off fitness wise, has tricks but tricks aren't enough at AFL level. I still see his best shot being a HHF that really works up the ground as his field kicking is his biggest weapon at the level. Needs to be fit as f to do that though.

I would have liked to see him tried as a defender last season. Has some toughness, did a nice defensive job on Sicly in 23, good overhead and a nice kick. Would have been better than some we tried or persisted with.

Harveysuth · 2024-10-17T11:45:14+1100

Trade pick 2 for 10,11
Future first to st kilda for pick 8
Take 8,10,11 to the draft

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-17T11:45:54+1100

Harveysuth said:
Trade pick 2 for 10,11
Future first to st kilda for pick 8
Take 8,10,11 to the draft

Nope 2 for 6 and 10/11 or we hold

travelli · 2024-10-17T11:46:03+1100

Lomas said:
We should just pay a few out and be done with it. We have the Houston money.

I know what you mean, but guys like CCJ and Stephenson were probably front loaded and are still only 25.

Last season of the contract. They have some talent, it will be interesting to see how they react with footy abyss looming.

I can cop it one more year.

Guys like laz, cooper and drury we should run a line through right now.

TruRoo · 2024-10-17T11:50:46+1100

The Nostradamus said:
instead of 25 we say take our future second or we walk

I'm glad you aren't in any form negotiating real things. You'd be pushed to the corner real quick until you could sit with the big boys.

We wanted Daniel and we paid for him.

My Left Foote · 2024-10-17T11:54:49+1100

Very happy with our trade period. My only gripe is we've still got our F3, I thought that could have been used in the Luke Parker trade.

Samsquanch · 2024-10-17T11:55:17+1100

The Nostradamus said:
Nope 2 for 6 and 10/11 or we hold

Yes. Don't take less than that.

And if a 6 to 8 player clear out is potentially on the cards next year then keeping future picks might be a smart move. If we trade next year's first round selection for unders then we'll be kanga-rooted

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