List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

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Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 16th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3star K 5.8 2star HB 5.4 4star M 2.7 3star T 3.2 5star MG 179.2 3star D 8.1 2star K 4.9 2star HB 3.3 2star M 2.0 2star T 2.6 4star MG 144.9 3star D 9.0 3star K 3.8 2star HB 5.2 4star M 0.8 1star T 3.8 5star MG 160.2 3star , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3star K 6.9 3star HB 5.4 4star M 2.8 3star T 2.9 4star CL 1.4 4star D 12.7 3star K 9.2 4star HB 3.5 2star M 3.0 3star T 2.7 4star CL 1.8 4star D 9.2 3star K 4.6 2star HB 4.6 4star M 2.0 3star T 2.6 4star CL 0.0 1star , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4star K 9.2 4star HB 7.1 4star M 3.5 4star T 2.0 4star MG 186.1 3star D 14.2 3star K 7.7 3star HB 6.5 4star M 3.2 3star T 1.8 3star MG 149.7 3star D 18.8 5star K 11.0 4star HB 7.8 5star M 4.0 4star T 2.2 4star MG 229.8 4star	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5star K 11.8 4star HB 6.4 4star M 4.9 5star T 3.0 5star MG 289.2 4star D 17.6 4star K 11.6 4star HB 6.0 3star M 3.3 3star T 3.4 4star MG 319.9 5star D 16.6 4star K 12.4 5star HB 4.2 4star M 7.0 5star T 2.6 4star MG 279.8 5star , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble

9

John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius

13

Jack Lukosius

Age

24

Ht

195cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

369.3

5star

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

369.3

5star

D

13.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

358.0

5star

, Richards, Rory Atkins

2

Rory Atkins

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[Disco Dew]

Think you'd want an ironclad agreement that they won't take who we want at 11 at 10

Maybe, but I would think we’d have our eyes on a few players around that mark

 

[the big lebowski]

So we’re getting 6,10 and 11?

 

[roos 10]

So we’re getting 6,10 and 11?

I would do that for 2 / 2025 1st rounder

 

[the big lebowski]

I would do that for 2 / 2025 1st rounder

So we’re getting 6,10,11 and their F1?

 

[Supa_Nova]

I see the benefit in this for both clubs.

If I'm Richmond I want to do this having seen the excitement and synergy of sheezel/wardlaw, anderson/Rowell, rozzee/butters (different picks I know)

Pick 1 and 2 just elevates this. I'd be wrapt if we had their hand and did this trade even with our current list tbh.

Conversely, it suits us for positional needs.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

I see the benefit in this for both clubs.

If I'm Richmond I want to do this having seen the excitement and synergy of sheezel/wardlaw, anderson/Rowell, rozzee/butters (different picks I know)

Pick 1 and 2 just elevates this. I'd be wrapt if we had their hand and did this trade even with our current list tbh.

Conversely, it suits us for positional needs.

I would reluctantly accept this offer of 6 and 10 for 2 along the hand that I bit off when the offer was made.

 

[Pravda Roo]

We can't get rid of both Teakle and CCJ until if/when Goad is ready. Unless we trade in someone else to ruck when X gets injured. So I could see Teakle staying on the books for a couple years yet. Every team needs low-cost depth options.

Good points and I agreed that we have struck gold with these talls

 

[Pravda Roo]

Think you'd want an ironclad agreement that they won't take who we want at 11 at 10

Mite as well just give us 10 then ?

 

[Pravda Roo]

I would do that for 2 / 2025 1st rounder

Yeah our first pick rounder could be 12 or 14 so let's hope Richmond takes our call or mms

 

[DocSholl]

Surely we'd be biting hands off for either?

It's okay to expect a premium price for a premium asset.

The attitude regarding pick value is interesting. When we first went down the bottom, I think anyone on here would have said 6/10 is a minimum requirement for 2 and maybe even not enough. Now that we've been down the bottom for a while and have basically been expectant of top picks. Its like daring to ask for a high price is impolite and we should just settle for 6/18.

 

[King Corey]

So we’re getting 6,10,11 and their F1?

+1 Dutch Tulip

 

[Sticksphat]

Think you'd want an ironclad agreement that they won't take who we want at 11 at 10

or they agree to take CCJ back.

 

[Makeshift Park]

It's okay to expect a premium price for a premium asset.

The attitude regarding pick value is interesting. When we first went down the bottom, I think anyone on here would have said 6/10 is a minimum requirement for 2 and maybe even not enough. Now that we've been down the bottom for a while and have basically been expectant of top picks. Its like daring to ask for a high price is impolite and we should just settle for 6/18.

It depends in part on how well you tolerate disappointment I think.

By contrast, I could say that since we've been rebuilding since about 2017 its okay to expect that we'll play finals next year.

 

[the big lebowski]

+1 Dutch Tulip

I don’t know what that is

But I want it

 

[Roodus]

Both sides need to remember those picks of 6, 10 an 11 and more like 9, 13 and 14 after bidding. However obviously this draft has depth.

 

[King Corey]

I don’t know what that is

But I want it

Fun fact: Adrian Dodoro was paid exclusively in Dutch Tulips for 20 years

 

[perplexed]

We can't get rid of both Teakle and CCJ until if/when Goad is ready. Unless we trade in someone else to ruck when X gets injured. So I could see Teakle staying on the books for a couple years yet. Every team needs low-cost depth options.

The problem with that is neither CJ or Teakle can ruck. We would be better off ditching both and getting a proper ruck, like Crossley, as a back-up.

 

[LB2Snake]

I don't mind 6,10+18 for 2 and our F1.......Gives Tiges and us a bit of an each way bet on the death ride too

 

[Sphynx]

Both sides need to remember those picks of 6, 10 an 11 and more like 9, 13 and 14 after bidding. However obviously this draft has depth.

It's a good point that needs to be repeated.

Just because it's the same pool, doesn't mean you get a player of comparable quality.

Pick 2 might only move for Ashcroft.

6 could move that same single pick, but 10 could move 3-4 spots.

It's really going to be 3 for 7 & 13-14

 

[hoffseason gains 01]

Both sides need to remember those picks of 6, 10 an 11 and more like 9, 13 and 14 after bidding. However obviously this draft has depth.

Doubt all 3 get bid on before 6 so that’s probably 7 and then only a small chance kako& lombard get bid on before 10&11. Either way you know what bracket of player will be available there vs. @ 2

 

[sregit]

I don't mind 6,10+18 for 2 and our F1.......Gives Tiges and us a bit of an each way bet on the death ride too

Only sensible trade scenario I’ve seen on either Richmond or North boards. Both sides desperately trying to win here. Personally I’m hoping nothing gets done.

 

[The Dingrel]

Yep that could be an option if we don't split 2, but I'll actually correct what I said in that we shouldn't trade anything before the draft. In thinking more about it more we should wait until pick 1 called out by Tigers and then we know what the options are before moving future picks.

If FOS gets called at 1, that might have Blues and Crows making offers for 2 to get Draper ahead of each other.
Demons, Saints and Tigers will have some sort of offer. But if we don't move the F1 or split 2, then we could certainly move the F2 for pick 28 off Bombres.

Yeah that's a good call. But wonder if we're a little compromised by signalling we looking to split and slide. Eg, say Carlton want FOS, and tiges take Smith at 1, kind of signals the player we really wan't isn't FOS....the slide a bit but not too far could be Tauru, Armstrong, Smillie, even,,,,but most likely not FOS, Draper, Smith, or possibly Langford or Lalor who most seem to think are #1 contenders (maybe not Draper but most would suggest ahead of the 6ish spot we're prepared to slide to). That then signals to say Melbourne a handful of players we are indeed after and they get in ahead of us at 5. Im kind of for holding 2, unless for a godfather offer, and just take the player we want and try to trade futures into the draft. Against that though is if there are a few players available around there where we are genuinely indifferent between! Dunno, will be intriguing, but I sure as hell hope Caleb Daniel is best on ground every week, and is a genuine bnf contender.

 

[Shinboner1]

The problem with that is neither CJ or Teakle can ruck. We would be better off ditching both and getting a proper ruck, like Crossley, as a back-up.

Teakle can ruck

 

[King Corey]

I don't mind 6,10+18 for 2 and our F1.......Gives Tiges and us a bit of an each way bet on the death ride too

That's potentially trading 1+2 for 6, 10, 18.

Return doesn't match the risk.

Both teams would be better off abstaining. Fwiw I'd want 6, 10, 11, 23 minimum and they'd say no.

 

[Passmore]

Tommy getting a bit bored and setting the cat amongst the pigeons.

If it keeps him away from the group Whatsapp, I guess it's for the best.

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