Player Watch #16 Josh Smillie

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The bloke on PRE that watches the training sessions said a major takeaway from the sessions is that people are gonna love Smillie & that going out on a limb we'll see him rd1.

Also this:

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Let's get the hype train going. I'm all aboard. Just rewatched a Dylan Alexander video on Smillie. He said obviously why these 190cm + mids are so useful is the reach, and ability to get first hands from the ruckman. But he said the thing that sets these big 190cm+ mids up for success is how good they are at the ground ball. Tom Green for his size is unbelievable below his knees, averaging an elite number (9) of groundballs a game. Same with Cripps. Same with Bont.

Smillie in the CTL was elite for groundballs, and he was also very clean in the championships below his knees, besides in the 1 game when it was wet. In that game he looked a bit sluggish and not very clean, so it's awesome to hear from the training report that Smillie was super clean in the wet conditions. In the championships I can see how some could view him as a second possession mid, but I think that's more to do with the role and midfield company, that there really is an atypical structure and environment playing with metro alongside a dozen, talented, pure mids. When he is getting the first possession, like he did in the CTL, he's something we haven't had.

If the kicking is legit, which I think it is, having been going back and watching whatever I can, he's got the potential to be better than Tom Green. It elevates him to having superstar potential. His action is great, he pulls off some unbelievable kicks, I think with increased reps across his career it will become more and more consistent, and that blows the lid off what he can become as a player.
 

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The bloke on PRE that watches the training sessions said a major takeaway from the sessions is that people are gonna love Smillie & that going out on a limb we'll see him rd1.

Also this:

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Let's get the hype train going. I'm all aboard. Just rewatched a Dylan Alexander video on Smillie. He said obviously why these 190cm + mids are so useful is the reach, and ability to get first hands from the ruckman. But he said the thing that sets these big 190cm+ mids up for success is how good they are at the ground ball. Tom Green for his size is unbelievable below his knees, averaging an elite number (9) of groundballs a game. Same with Cripps. Same with Bont.

Smillie in the CTL was elite for groundballs, and he was also very clean in the championships below his knees, besides in the 1 game when it was wet. In that game he looked a bit sluggish and not very clean, so it's awesome to hear from the training report that Smillie was super clean in the wet conditions. In the championships I can see how some could view him as a second possession mid, but I think that's more to do with the role and midfield company, that there really is an atypical structure and environment playing with metro alongside a dozen, talented, pure mids. When he is getting the first possession, like he did in the CTL, he's something we haven't had.

If the kicking is legit, which I think it is, having been going back and watching whatever I can, he's got the potential to be better than Tom Green. It elevates him to having superstar potential. His action is great, he pulls off some unbelievable kicks, I think with increased reps across his career it will become more and more consistent, and that blows the lid off what he can become as a player.
Amazing.

Re how he was high-low-fiving a la cotch: reminds me a bit of Rance's first preseason when he had a little go at Richo for not running past the white line during a drill. Obviously not comparing Smillie and Rance as players but seemingly some similarities in leadership and their will to succeed from day 1
 
The bloke on PRE that watches the training sessions said a major takeaway from the sessions is that people are gonna love Smillie & that going out on a limb we'll see him rd1.

Also this:

View attachment 2176707

Let's get the hype train going. I'm all aboard. Just rewatched a Dylan Alexander video on Smillie. He said obviously why these 190cm + mids are so useful is the reach, and ability to get first hands from the ruckman. But he said the thing that sets these big 190cm+ mids up for success is how good they are at the ground ball. Tom Green for his size is unbelievable below his knees, averaging an elite number (9) of groundballs a game. Same with Cripps. Same with Bont.

Smillie in the CTL was elite for groundballs, and he was also very clean in the championships below his knees, besides in the 1 game when it was wet. In that game he looked a bit sluggish and not very clean, so it's awesome to hear from the training report that Smillie was super clean in the wet conditions. In the championships I can see how some could view him as a second possession mid, but I think that's more to do with the role and midfield company, that there really is an atypical structure and environment playing with metro alongside a dozen, talented, pure mids. When he is getting the first possession, like he did in the CTL, he's something we haven't had.

If the kicking is legit, which I think it is, having been going back and watching whatever I can, he's got the potential to be better than Tom Green. It elevates him to having superstar potential. His action is great, he pulls off some unbelievable kicks, I think with increased reps across his career it will become more and more consistent, and that blows the lid off what he can become as a player.
I wonder if richoatthedisco still thinks he's no good below his knees....
 
The bloke on PRE that watches the training sessions said a major takeaway from the sessions is that people are gonna love Smillie & that going out on a limb we'll see him rd1.

Also this:

View attachment 2176707

Let's get the hype train going. I'm all aboard. Just rewatched a Dylan Alexander video on Smillie. He said obviously why these 190cm + mids are so useful is the reach, and ability to get first hands from the ruckman. But he said the thing that sets these big 190cm+ mids up for success is how good they are at the ground ball. Tom Green for his size is unbelievable below his knees, averaging an elite number (9) of groundballs a game. Same with Cripps. Same with Bont.

Smillie in the CTL was elite for groundballs, and he was also very clean in the championships below his knees, besides in the 1 game when it was wet. In that game he looked a bit sluggish and not very clean, so it's awesome to hear from the training report that Smillie was super clean in the wet conditions. In the championships I can see how some could view him as a second possession mid, but I think that's more to do with the role and midfield company, that there really is an atypical structure and environment playing with metro alongside a dozen, talented, pure mids. When he is getting the first possession, like he did in the CTL, he's something we haven't had.

If the kicking is legit, which I think it is, having been going back and watching whatever I can, he's got the potential to be better than Tom Green. It elevates him to having superstar potential. His action is great, he pulls off some unbelievable kicks, I think with increased reps across his career it will become more and more consistent, and that blows the lid off what he can become as a player.
The kid obviously has some class, talent and a real point of difference, he'll be a weapon.

What I'm busting to see is how the synergy between all of the boys works, given that they mostly know each other well and some have been teammates since they were 12yo's. I don't think that any crop of draftees of this size have ever been brought into a club that have that connection, that includes the expansion clubs when they started.

We all know how important that connection is.
 
The kid obviously has some class, talent and a real point of difference, he'll be a weapon.

What I'm busting to see is how the synergy between all of the boys works, given that they mostly know each other well and some have been teammates since they were 12yo's. I don't think that any crop of draftees of this size have ever been brought into a club that have that connection, that includes the expansion clubs when they started.

We all know how important that connection is.
GWS got 3 Oakleigh & 2 Dandenong.

Just no one gave a shit because GWS lol

Edit: 2 Falcons too
 

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GWS got 3 Oakleigh & 2 Dandenong.

Just no one gave a shit because GWS lol

Edit: 2 Falcons too
Thanks, guess they sort of had to get a lot of lads from the same area given the amount of picks and access to 17yo.

We're definitely better off though as none of this crop has to uproot and sever themselves from their support networks.
 
The bloke on PRE that watches the training sessions said a major takeaway from the sessions is that people are gonna love Smillie & that going out on a limb we'll see him rd1.

Also this:

View attachment 2176707

Let's get the hype train going. I'm all aboard. Just rewatched a Dylan Alexander video on Smillie. He said obviously why these 190cm + mids are so useful is the reach, and ability to get first hands from the ruckman. But he said the thing that sets these big 190cm+ mids up for success is how good they are at the ground ball. Tom Green for his size is unbelievable below his knees, averaging an elite number (9) of groundballs a game. Same with Cripps. Same with Bont.

Smillie in the CTL was elite for groundballs, and he was also very clean in the championships below his knees, besides in the 1 game when it was wet. In that game he looked a bit sluggish and not very clean, so it's awesome to hear from the training report that Smillie was super clean in the wet conditions. In the championships I can see how some could view him as a second possession mid, but I think that's more to do with the role and midfield company, that there really is an atypical structure and environment playing with metro alongside a dozen, talented, pure mids. When he is getting the first possession, like he did in the CTL, he's something we haven't had.

If the kicking is legit, which I think it is, having been going back and watching whatever I can, he's got the potential to be better than Tom Green. It elevates him to having superstar potential. His action is great, he pulls off some unbelievable kicks, I think with increased reps across his career it will become more and more consistent, and that blows the lid off what he can become as a player.
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The kid obviously has some class, talent and a real point of difference, he'll be a weapon.

What I'm busting to see is how the synergy between all of the boys works, given that they mostly know each other well and some have been teammates since they were 12yo's. I don't think that any crop of draftees of this size have ever been brought into a club that have that connection, that includes the expansion clubs when they started.

We all know how important that connection is.
The real question is: Did they play basketball?
 
The bloke on PRE that watches the training sessions said a major takeaway from the sessions is that people are gonna love Smillie & that going out on a limb we'll see him rd1.

Also this:

View attachment 2176707

Let's get the hype train going. I'm all aboard. Just rewatched a Dylan Alexander video on Smillie. He said obviously why these 190cm + mids are so useful is the reach, and ability to get first hands from the ruckman. But he said the thing that sets these big 190cm+ mids up for success is how good they are at the ground ball. Tom Green for his size is unbelievable below his knees, averaging an elite number (9) of groundballs a game. Same with Cripps. Same with Bont.

Smillie in the CTL was elite for groundballs, and he was also very clean in the championships below his knees, besides in the 1 game when it was wet. In that game he looked a bit sluggish and not very clean, so it's awesome to hear from the training report that Smillie was super clean in the wet conditions. In the championships I can see how some could view him as a second possession mid, but I think that's more to do with the role and midfield company, that there really is an atypical structure and environment playing with metro alongside a dozen, talented, pure mids. When he is getting the first possession, like he did in the CTL, he's something we haven't had.

If the kicking is legit, which I think it is, having been going back and watching whatever I can, he's got the potential to be better than Tom Green. It elevates him to having superstar potential. His action is great, he pulls off some unbelievable kicks, I think with increased reps across his career it will become more and more consistent, and that blows the lid off what he can become as a player.
I hope everything you've suggested regarding Smillie happens, I just wish we as supporters would hold back on the hype a little at times. I've lost count of the amount of players who have looked great on the training track but have not delivered in games.

I am not saying that will happen here but maybe it's worth at least waiting a little longer than their first week at the club before we suggest they'll be superstars
 
Had a look earlier, paying $18.

Looked too, bookies have zero idea this far out. Lalor was fav at $7 with Jagga at $8 and Draper was behind FOS and Langford.

Draper and Jagga clear favourites for mine, they’ll have the quickest impact next season. Smillie and Langford should be equal 3rd fav.
 
Looked too, bookies have zero idea this far out. Lalor was fav at $7 with Jagga at $8 and Draper was behind FOS and Langford.

Draper and Jagga clear favourites for mine, they’ll have the quickest impact next season. Smillie and Langford should be equal 3rd fav.
Yeah agree. Jagga should be favourite IMO, because you just know he'll rack it up like he always does and Blues should be top 4.
 
We are smart drafting VIC talent early in the build as they won’t go anywhere. Then later stage/contending you grab anyone. The connection these kids have could have a Penrith Panthers type of vibe about it.
Yep, all these boys know each other to some degree, with most of them having at least one good mate they've played with drafted alongside them.

Hard to see any of them wanting to leave that behind unless they're not getting opportunity or they're offered insane money that we can't match.
 
I hope everything you've suggested regarding Smillie happens, I just wish we as supporters would hold back on the hype a little at times. I've lost count of the amount of players who have looked great on the training track but have not delivered in games.

I am not saying that will happen here but maybe it's worth at least waiting a little longer than their first week at the club before we suggest they'll be superstars
Pointing out a load of positives about a player we should be excited about doesn’t render you, as a reader, unable to remain critical and measured. You’re not a baby. Acknowledging superstar potential doesn’t mean I’ve labelled him a superstar—potential exists before it’s delivered in games; that’s why it’s called ‘potential.’
 

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