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Pretty lazy analysis given 4.4% separates 4th on the list from Lever in 20th. Given Barrass averages 1.8 1v1 contests per game it's a small sample size so one or two wins or losses will have a big impact on where he sits on the list. Personally I put more stock in who our list manager...

Agree with your take he looks an A grade defender. Also worth noting 4.4% separates Barass (34.4%) in 4th on the list and Lever who sits 20th at 30%. I'm no statistician but when Barass averages 1.8 1v1 contests per game I'm guessing it's a small sample size so one loss or win week to week...

Barrass averaged over 7 spoils per game, the most of all defenders listed, as per the stats you provided in your subsequent post. Would appear to contradict the assertion he either marks or is out marked?

Actually I'd suggest the GWS game is the most impressive form line. Coming off a six day break, interstate trip having played crows sunday twighlight previous round, up by 28 points at 3/4 time again playing interstate on a ground most young hawks hadn't played on previously. Given the fixture...

Did enjoy the arrogance of a number of Blues fans, "No, which clubs would Hawks over take in 2024 to make the 8?" Well the baggers for one. Da Da Da Da DONE!

This aged well.

Agreed, Nash is the ideal match up. Had we been out of the finals race I think Hustwaite may have been given some time on Cripps as he was against Dangerfield last year. Not because Hustwaite is the best match up but because it's good for his development. The fact Hustwaite won't get a call...

Some big decisions for selection this week. I thought CJ showed some promising signs against the crows, disappointing he took a step back on the weekend. Have a feeling Carlton's limited leg speed and space on wings at the G might present an opportunity to CJ. Hopefully CJ is given direct...

Get stuffed... what a game that was! Dennis could call a game, "the cat is still on the back!" only bested by "get a hearse for the curse!" Well done Tom, brilliant career and always saved his best for big games as all Hawks fans would know. Had he played in the Dunstall, Lockett, Gaz senior...

Surprised there hasn't been more discussion on Heeney's decision to challenge his one match suspension. Rot has well and truly set in since. Given Heeney got one week, would miss against North with Swans well clear on top, the decision to go to the tribunal and then appeal was driven by...

Rip the bandaid off. Identify the players who set the standards and can develop young talent, the Gunston and Bruest role. Trade out for picks but also players who may not be around for the next flag but currently occupy key roles and therefore limit development, eg Mitchell and Jager out...

Not to mention GWS could have their % trimmed vs lions at the Gabba or Dogs in Ballarat. No certainties against Freo either. Knock off the blues and we are still a decent chance.

I thought the crows were bad, but that was awful. 10 points from quarter time until a couple of junk time goals late in the 4th. Michaelanney's dog act sums up where the crows are at; frustrated, selfish and no leadership. Murphy and Fog in leadership group, says it all really.

Meek's game is an interesting one to assess. Was by no means our worst and did some nice things. But I think de Koning beat him in the ruck. Was hoping he'd use his size to intimidate Sam, similar to what big brother did to Sam recently. Meek has been great on our run of form, one of our...

Can't imagine there will be any sore Cats players tomorrow. Disappointing that Geelong beat us around the ball. The usual suspects bullied us; Duncan, Danger, Atkins, Holmes and Cameron. We look good when we get it on our terms, but bring some physicality and we can go missing.

Lack of physicality is so disappointing. Danger, Duncan, Holmes, Stewart and Cameron are bullying us sad to say. Number of air swings and not taking the body when trying to spoil and effective handballs mid 'tackle' from cats players is awful.

Great thread. Barrett by a mile. At least King and Montanga try to back up opinions with evidence and analysis, may not agree with it, but better than the vitriolic opinions of Barrett. Cornes I respect as one of the few independent thinkers in the AFL media. Darcy's lame attempt to take down...

Reading between the lines from his manager Scott Lucas, I think one of the reasons Perryman is considering his options is the appeal of minutes in midfield. Lucas comments in June: "You probably add that extra layer that Harry was drafted as a midfielder. I think he'd be an extremely talented...

Playing coach at Launceston Football Club and by all reports been successful over a number of years both in terms of winning premierships and developing young talent. Colby McKercher (2), James Leake (17) and Arie Schoenmaker (62) from 2023 draft all from Launceston Football Club. Link below...

Hawks games are far more watchable with Howie, Bucks and Jack calling the game compared to recent weeks!

Undoubtedly Tilthorpe has talent, bigger question is whether the crows have the culture and coaches to help him maximise it. Can debate whether TT or Dear has more talent or who has shown more in their first year, but I know which environment looks more conducive to helping players reach and...

Should we sneak into the finals we will be making up the numbers if our final is played at night. The AFL in its infinite wisdom has put the Hawks in grave yard timeslots as we play such boring defensive uncompetitive footy (who isn't looking forward to two crows Friday night games as well as...

I wonder if she'll tick off GWS getting an armchair ride with 2 byes vs the hawks playing 13 straight? Never mind the fact hawks get no prime time games despite playing some entertaining footy. Should we sneak into the 8 can only hope the final is a day game as won't have played a night game...

Almost just missing Tilthorpe > Dear.

How good, young hawks side playing 13 straight and get the win despite the GWS franchise coming in fresh off their 2nd bye for the year. Dear looks twice the player of Cadman. Great to see the underdog minnows with no prime time fixtures, no AFL hand outs and no academy come out on top. AFL...

What a great win. AFL House will be spewing. Hawks playing some of the most entertaining footy you'll see but no prime time games. Giants fresh off their 2nd bye, young hawks side played 13 straight and still get it done late. Stick that in ya pipe AFL!

Trajectories of North, Crows and Hawks are pretty clear. North going nowhere, Crows going backwards and Hawks on the rise. Time to close the thread. Hawks and Eagles... who has the better youth?

Of course you do. Free hit given free agent and could be waiting a very long time for 'a real A grader'.

Tomorrow I'll rationalise that loss along the lines of: Not playing finals regardless of the result so prefer a higher draft pick Good lesson for a young rebuilding team and relatively inexperienced head coach, rather a loss like that now than in a season or two in a big final, hopefully lesson...

Great call champ.