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GJs competency has been put into question with the infighting, throwing him under bus, total change in direction so he now wants Roseanne and police hierarchy to be proven wrong and he right. That coincidentally coincides with supporting innocence of FM. Perhaps more but I think that is main thrust

Yes agreed. At one point the detective referred to a previous conversation and gestured….. ‘Down there’. That is all we have BUT we have a consistent theme from FM and FGM referring to around the corner. I surmise them to be same. Jubelin also has said both FGM and FD accounts were consistent...

Reading the interview in its entirety you can discern a number of things: that WT went off the balcony to look FFs car the direction suggested by the detective from the various discussions with her was around the corner when asked specifically why he went around the corner she did what many...

None of us know. But it is possible to analyse possibilities and in this instance I’m focusing specifically with FD relayed comments because her true testimony (if it is) is most likely untainted. We can also determine whether it is illogical (and it clearly is by that direction). That then...

Yes that is true. That said if you strip back what are potential lies (the foster stories) you hopefully are left with that which is MOST LIKELY true and also a contemporaneous account unlikely to be manipulated yet…….the FD version. That’s why I started with that because it is most likely what...

Question: if he went around the corner to go and check if FFs car was home yet then why would he go that way? Did FF park in the driveway? I suspect so. So the direction around the corner merely goes to the bottom gravel driveway. Mmmmmm. So if the suggestion was from FM to do that it doesn’t...

So what is it then? Did he go around the corner playing a game and roaring or did he instead go looking for FF because he was bored and FM sought to distract him? The FM and FGM are very prone to story telling. Perhaps there was no last roar at all. He went around the corner to look for FF who...

Observation: many children tend to play the favoured parent against the non favoured parent. It’s entirely possible that …‘I’m going to look for Daddy car’ is a response given when there is a dispute and he doesn’t like the FM answer and wants daddy to resolve it in his favour

Thing is IF it happened as narrative has been put he went around corner to roar. There wasn’t any going looking for anyone let alone FF. Maybe she has embellished that he was ‘playing’ daddy tiger with an imaginary FF. Possible. But there was no real FF there so would she answer that way...

A similar aged sibling would miss their brother rather quickly when absent from play. FM would have to have said something. It’s nonsensical that WT could have gone off in search of FF or even tried because he wasn’t there. But what else could FM say? He’s dead? He’s hiding? No……he’s gone off to...

Wasn’t it something like……’went off the balcony looking for FF’ I suspect the phrase was an explanation given to FD by FM to explain his absence. She had to say something so she contrived he went off searching for FF. Just a suggestion mind you

The FM and FF were in sinc in support. I think the initial damage was done both as witness prior him leaving for work. The FGM was witness too but excluded by lying she wasn’t even up…. And FF not there either to stop them being accomplices. I don’t believe there was an accidental fall. That...

Yes. No one does want to go there. A combination of things I guess. What I know from personal experience is that a dysfunctional parent prone to inappropriate discipline (abuse), the circumstances can escalate beyond control quickly..Throw in care of a child from DV environment and it becomes...

Chris Dawson was convicted exclusively on consciousness of guilt evidence. No body. No evidence. But the judge determined it was the only feasible conclusion.. I can see layer upon layer of these same behaviours being used against the FM. The only difference is LD was an adult and could leave...

I've been all over the case from top to bottom. I've taken an extremely objective non prejudiced view of what happened......until I conclusively determine in my mind what I know. I'm at that point. More than anyone here I'm influenced by COG (consciousness of guilt) behaviours. They...

And to have a sick twist to it......a highly experienced detective GJ (whoops another abbreviation). thought they were beyond suspicion.....even NOW. Seriously? I've mentioned 3 charges that can legitimately be raised. There is possibly another 10. Keep these arseholes on the spike for the...

GO has been a long term abbreviation for Geoff Owen So too RP for Ray Porter Then RC for Ronald Chapman It speeds up the thread. Personally I don't see any harm in it especially when the person has been mentioned several hundred times and the abbreviation is their initials. Context usually...

The one thing we do know is that it is entirely consistent with FGM account ( per GJ). Given we have her full walk through I guess you can draw parallels. 31550 said 2009 and it didn't. That's what I recall from Part 1 .....it didn't

That's interesting. Thank you..I had thought the thread covered that in part 1 and concluded no for some reason. If FGM had car they should have been able to determine where it went. GPS location.

Omg that was one MASSIVE point scoring attempt 🤺 to 31550 and apparently 'us' here. The only comment I make is regarding opportunistic abductors. YES they get their name for a reason.....because they TAKE opportunity. The fallacy is that they must both be opportunistic predator but there must...

In witness statement analysis that is a noticeable thing common to perpetrators where they seek to soften their actions by distancing language. Good pick up !!!

This was discussed I recall in part 1 with conclusion that it didn't.

If it was the FM then what accounts for the momentary stopping they heard? If she placed a dead W in the car what caused hesitation? Was it pausing at the driveway exit perhaps? If Crabbes know the sound of vehicles coming and going can they also distinguish between residents coming and...

That is a nonsense suggestion..she presumably has no idea he has a head injury. If she suspects it would be sensible first to find him and confirm it than speculate. It's rubbish

You can think so. I think it's utter nonsense and not even close to thought patterns. What you think is an urgent need to FIND them. Nothing more.

I don't accept for one second they weren't lying.. first discussion with AMS sharply FM gives two choices: 1 he hit his head and cant hear me or 2 he's been taken. Really?...he hit his head as first remark? My twin girls 5-6 were missing for 20 min. At no stage did I think that as first...

The cadaver dog passed by that location the very next day. If a cadaver had been there but taken away by foxes the night before it would have indicated. It didn't. It wasn't there ever

2 cars in that spot IN THE AFTERNOON!! Ie after the FM had already hid his body. Kinda relevant that it needs to be there beforehand..

Imo FM likes the narrative. She has been storytelling all the way along. About the health of their parenting..About abduction hoax factors. About reasons for car trip..About a scream from the bush. it's ALL designed to hide the truth. That is just another one of COG lies. The scream implies...

Newsflash..this is a case with tight timeline and will only be solved if it can be focussing on that timeline and whatever holes can be ascertained.. 31550 has a eye for detail and is precise with these things. He has justifiably created credibility..All the people here have established...