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The Watts bashing is ridiculous. It's NAB cup. He's a 20 year old KP forward, the comparison with Carey was stupid because the game has changed completely. He showed great improvement last year. He'll be a gun forward, it's just going to take time

Difference is our game is entertaining so we don't need gimmicks to suck people in to watch or attend, the game also doesn't need any new rules just for the sake of change.

Difficult times?? Did you see our 2011? We can't go worse than that and only finished 13th. Gutsy decision. Can't say we saw many of those under Bailey. They may find the going tough at the start but in the end these 2 were always going to be Captain or vice captains, why not now and give...

So therefore you have information you just can't disclose it ;)

Re: Best Point Guard? 1. CP3 2. D-Rose 3. Deron 4. Westbrook 5. Rondo/Nash so many good point guards in the league at the min

Agree that Moloney should get the gig, but just because Trengove is young doesn't mean he should be discounted. I know one player who believes he should be named skipper

you heard wrong. 2k12 is comfortably the best sports game ever made, even if the game only included my player it would be money well spent but there is much much more. FIFA is quality too, even if you're not a soccer fan

Think we are in a position to go for best available, as we seem to have most bases covered, although agree we appear a mid or two short, need Sylvia to step up and play as a mid/hff rather than hff/mid this year, and no doubt Viney will help, hopefully the 2 Scully picks are used on mids. Need...

Agree on Howe, natural improvement for young players like Watts, Trengove etc. means they should improve a fair bit, I think Trengove will be among the elite midfielders by the end of the year, hoping Grimes can come back, play a full season and remind everyone how good he can be

Green should be given another chance to be skipper, Moloney and Trengove VC, know a couple of younger players who think Trengove should be captain, the rest of the leadership group depends how many they wanto to include in it but at a guess in order I'd say Grimes Jones Rivers Frawley...

We definitely won't be getting Waylen Manson.. Good to see we have invited a few to training, find out a bit about how the players will go training in an AFL environment, hopefully makes the decisions clearer for the recruiters

This argument is ridiculous, it's much more than just a job. When you play footy you should build some sort of rapport with your team mates, much more important than money. I hope he dies slowly and painfully for completely dicking us around all year knowing he was lying

He's a genuine tall KP at 196, Frawley, Rivers, Garland all only 192-193 iirc, basically a replacement for Warnock I think, and sounds like he has better skills. I think our list is pretty well stocked for talls going forward, and guys like Sellar, Martin, Clark all capable of playing...

Yes of course, millionaire players are being so greedy while the poor old billionaire owners are only after what is fair and reasonable.

I doubt he was approached before he was drafted, if he signed a 3 year deal originally he would still have been in the GWS crosshairs anyway. I'm going to take sacks with $ signs on them and throw them at him when we play at the G. Who else wants in? :D The whole scenario sucks, and I blame...

Wow Raines more votes than goddard Mclean winning Simpson more votes than Ablett If a weeks a long time in footy, 5 years is an eternity

Not sure where all this talk of resting Jamar has come up, he's not a Cale Morton sized pipsqueak, he is bigger and stronger than anyone else we have, Gawn looks like being a player but right now he is miles from Jamar (although light years ahead of him at the same age). Pretty sure Jamars only...

Clarke, Maloney and Trengrove will all have good years

Think Cloke won a B&F in 07 but def stagnated after that. Great get by the club, finally got someone we went after, don't think we've paid overs at all, pick 12 in an average draft, keep 3 first rounders for next year, and front load Clarks contract so he'll only be on ~400k from 2013-15...

Mate every single club has multiple examples of players they have overlooked, otherwise teams would end up looking like all australian teams while others would be left with nothing, the fact we were gonna rookie Rockliff is good, because 14 other teams probably weren't. The new recruiting team...

and if your aunty had a **** she'd be your uncle. do you think clubs like stony creek/fishy/bass etc with less than 200 people in the town would survive without paying players? how much bass spent is irrelevant, they won so its money well spent even if they are ****ed next year, your 2's choked...

typical

$200 for a 3 course meal, free piss all night, the entertainment throughout the night and at the end you get a fair while to mingle with the players for photos/skulling comps etc

He must be kept. Simply because if he goes to another club he will become a gun and we can't have that. He's got all the tools to do it, and he has been injured at unfortunate times the last couple of years, give him a big full pre season and if he's still shit then cut him loose

I did read. You said it would take a package of three of them to get it done, of that group I chose Sylvia, Tapscott and a first round pick. Nobody would do it and there's no chance that would be even contemplated by Melbourne, nor a similar package by any other club. Butcher would be worth...

not a burra fan but just wondering why you say they were very very lucky to beat fishy? beating stony isn't much to crow about either. Should be a ripper game tomoz, hope Foster get up to play Bass again, was an awesome game last week and realistically they are clearly the 2 best teams...

TBH I think Malthouse will be coaching us in 2012. He said himself something about not staying out of coaching for too long or you lose it or whatever.. Then when Eddie sooked he backtracked and said there's no way he'll coach in 2012. I think he is keeping the peace with Ed for the moment...

Anybody else think we are a bit light on for pace? Quick mids Sylvia, Bennell, Bail, Scully, Nicholson, Blease Of this group, still not sure whether Bennell, Bail, Nicholson are good enough, Scully most likely won't be there, Sylvia spends a lot of time up forward and Blease is on a...

First rounder, Sylvia, Tapscott for Butcher. Hmm i think i'll take the non ******ed option. i'd be prepared to give our first and third picks, or our first and a fringe player. Butcher has looked awesome the last few weeks, which is especially hard in a poor team, but you'd want him to have done...

It's almost like he's been sanitised this year, has obviously been told not to fly for marks, needs to be given more free reign next year. His year has def been a little underwhelming but so has everybody elses. He's kicked a lot of his goals in junk time and he definitely needs to work harder...