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Some pretty poor attempts at humour in this thread... I thought the first comment about facial injuries was prety good but they seemed to become a bit less jovial after that... a lot of tall poppy syndrome heading in Nick's direction from some seriously inferior human beings. Back on topic...

To answer the original question... No. A Norm Smith Medal is a Norm Smith Medal regardless of the final score, also having one in the original match and the replay makes those medals no less valuable either IMHO. Lenny and Pendles medals are both the equal of Simon Black's or Gary Ablett's...

Everybody is getting different games mixed up. The incident that the op is talking about is from round 1 2006. Ben Cousins and Robert Harvey were pretty much playing against each other and they essentially broke even with 27 possies a piece, from memory I thought Harvey got the better of him...

Lol, I know this is OT but I just love your sig. The savior who averages a goal a game? lol Josh Kennedy - The Savior 45 Games - 49 Goals

Then why do I hate him? he always struggled to get a touch against Max... Will be interesting to see how he goes against Zac this year :D:D:D:p:p:p

Lol, Leigh Montagna a villain? you have to be kidding me? Also Harry O isn't good enough to make the team for heroes, he is a good player and he seems to be an even better bloke but how does he get a gig over the likes of Andrew McLeod, Sam Fisher, etc.

Lol, have you even met the bloke? A lot of saints fans thought he was the type of bloke who would show a bit of loyalty... guess not. As for Lovett, I am severely pissed off right now, I don't think that we made the wrong choice in signing him up, yeah we knew he had some issues but sometimes...

Re: Andrew Lovett - Suspended Indefinitely If this turns out to be a seriuos offender I hope we terminate his contract immediately, surely he'd have a behaviour clause in there... How many chances does this w***er need...

Luke Ball's body was up to standard, the reason he was struggling for game time is he wasn't good enough. Maguire has no injury problems anymore, he played the whole seaso in the VFL, he just feel behind Blake, Dawson, Fisher and Gilbert. Hamill had been retired for about 2 years before Misson...

Must say I'm stoked to have JWS on board, I always thought he had the potential to be something special... Have a good feeling that our top doc David Misson will be able to turn him around physically but from the outside it seems to be just as much of an attitudinal problem. I pray that he...

Cool, thanks.

Another Collingwood fan embarrassing themselves, the hypothetical had nothing to do with Luke Ball, but you along with the rest of your mates can't comprehend that... The premise I am challenging is that it is always better to get something than nothing, which as any non Collingwood supporter...

Negotiation 1 - Ask for Goldsack (to address a weakness) and pick 30 Collingwood Say No Negotiation Collingwood offer Goldsack and pick 30 St Kilda say no, Goldsack no longer addresses an area of weakness. It's not the offer itself that's the problem. It's the fact that it no longer improves...

Pick 30 (eq. 50) and a player who would never get a game is rubbish to St Kilda, don't you see, everything is relative!! to us Goldsack became nothing after we acquired Lovett and Peake. Yes I know they don't play running back, but they allow Gram and Goddard to play the position without...

Pick 30 in this draft is the equivalent to pick 50 in an average year, Goldsack is nothing to us as he is too far down the list to ever get a game. So it came down to a gamble, give Ball to Collingwood for the equivelant of pick 50 and help them become contenders or send him to the draft where...

It has nothing to do with comparisons, don't you see that Luke Ball has nothing to do with my scenario. Answer the question, Scott Pendlebury wants out. He has nominated St Kilda, it's Raph Clark and pick 48 or nothing for him, you're in charge, what do you pick? There is more to consider...

Shallow draft mate, pick 30 this year is worth about 50 in an average year. The lower the draft pick the more risk is involved. Hell James Hird was taken at about pick 79, we should have traded Ball for pick 79 then shouldn't we, we would have got the next Hird by your logic. There is nothing...

Despite the fact that Essendon don't have a playe ron their list fit to polish Roo's boots, I'll pay that :thumbsu::thumbsu::p:p But if you ever find yourself in St Kilda on a Saturday night, I think you;ll understand what i'm referring to :D:D

LUKE BALL IS IRRELEVANT TO THIS HYPOTHETICAL!! Scott Pendlebury wants out, he will not be playing for Collingwood ever again, he is only willing to go to one club, that club offers an absolutely insulting trade and is not willing to budge, do you take the steak knives or do you let him walk...

My argument is piss weak is it? I'm sure that a majority of people would believe that there are instances when it is better to let a player walk out then trade him for nothing... The fact that you and the other bloke keep comparing Ball to Pendlebury is irrelevant, yet you can't realise this...

Well there actually is a difference between not being in the best 22 and not being in the best 22, for starters you actually get on the field... Put shortly this is a no, you are backing away from your previous comment as there are situations where it is more beneficial for your club to take...

OMG, it has nothing to do with the comparisons between the two players, but collingwood supporters have been claiming something is better than nothing. So prove it - Pendlebury wants out, if Collingwood wont trade him to St Kilda he will go into the PSD, for some reason all St Kilda are willing...

For your sake I hope this was a pathetic attempt at a troll.. To summarise - Luke Ball is a good player who could greatly improve Collingwood's chances by bringing an elite ability in an area that they struggle with (grunt work) He is a mercenary and should be treated accordingly, Judd has to...

Are you sure? I don't recall that. I said he wasn't in our best 20, but I thought he and Raph Clarke were the last two players picked in our starting team. Not having a go at you, I could have made a mistake, but I don't remember. For the record, Luke would currently be in our starting 22...

As much as I hate everything Geelong because of the GF heartbreak, I must admit that is an excellent point... it's hard to believe how anyone couldn't respect Bomber... building a list from scratch isn't as easy as it's made out to be on here, especially without any top 5 picks

Actually Collingwood have 1, St Kilda have 0. VFL was a different competition...

That is a believable scenario, an AA player being traded for a fringe player with no real upside and a worthless draft pick. Imagine at the end of 2008 if you heard Collingwood would offer Goldsack and pick 30 for Luke Ball, you would be laughing your head off at the idea of St Kilda even...

After getting Lovett and Peake we don't want Goldsack, is that so hard to understand? Pick 30 would have been nice, however strengthening Collingwood's chances in 2010 weaken St Kilda's chances, and IMO the inclusion of Luke Ball into Collingwood's midfield decreases St Kilda's chance of...

Lol, you're kidding right? You didn't see the game where Sandringham beat Hawthorn down at Tassie? It's also far more humorous that it's coming from a Collingwood supporter... All we ever hear is how good Reid is going to be, or how good Blight is going to be etc. etc. If you don't consider...

He has been told that he is a member of the starting 22, however there are issues that he needs to work on. Luke has been saying all year that being dropped was the kick up the arse that he needed, obviously he was just pay lip service.