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"The recent hands in the back rule encouraged teams to kick long to a contest more often" is an interesting jump in logic.

No, he was deliberately moved forward. Deliberately. My favorite quote: "He had 37 touches when he probably could have easily got 50 touches if he hadn't been moved forward even though the game was over".

After 3 touches in a thumping? Sure, why not.

I broke my leg in a similar manner playing basketball (both bones, copped a knee that just snapped through them). I didn't know it was broken until I tried to get up and run down the court and felt the wobble. I'm not tough, I just didn't know any better.

Agree with what you've said, but Lloyd was only about 6 months older than Riewoldt is when he did his hammy. Interestingly enough, he too looked on track for a career-best season before being cut down.

If he'd been able to play in the middle all game, the game would have been much closer.

Ridiculously consistent too. Has had about 5 games of below 20 touches in the last 3 seasons.

Re: gold coast salary cap - is it really that much more? The bigger thing is that a bulk of their list are going to be on 1st year contacts, well below the league average.

If you are going to look at the NBA, you also have to look at the players in that league who aren't two-way players (ie the guys who represent what someone like Shirley brings to the table). Just because the best players may be expected to play defence (and a lot of times unless a game is...

When we hear "draft pick 16 has walked out on Essendon and has chosen Hawthorn" this will become relevant.

It's a charity dealy I think. They mentioned something about it on the Footy Show but buggered if I can remember who it is for.

I think only 3 blokes who played ones last week down at NB are eligible for the 2's anyway, and 2 of them have played all bar the last couple in 2's (going up to fill in for some injuries).

AA in 85 for Foulds.

Not all. Generally your sciences have midyear exams as well as the final year ones.

Different drafts.

Lloyd got done for the same thing two years ago.

Yeah, Darcy was pretty ordinary.

He was absent from training. The club suspended him for missing sessions and basically said that if you come back from suspension at a level below what we expect of you, you'll be punished further. He did, and they have. Furthermore, the high fine becomes even more justified when you take...

Being a Sydney man, he probably would have seen the only game Tom showed anything in. I still think he could be a good player, but it wasn't going to happen at Essendon. Hopefully being sent packing and having to be redrafted is the kick in the backside he needs to get himself sorted.

Got to say I am loving the advertising campaign for the series. All this talk about playing by the rules and how no one is going to be suspended from the Australian camp and all the ads talk up the brutality from past series. Brilliant. But I still won't be going anywhere near it.

Lovett is under contract.

Restraint of trade? If he doesn't want to work for the AFL, he doesn't have to.

Given his ridiculous amount of success as an U19 coach, I wouldn't think it would be too much of an issue.

They are paying way over the odds. 3rd round pick at best.

It happened with Daisy Thomas, and he sure as hell didn't kick 10 in the final.

Setter upperer.

Olympic walking?

But a whale isn't a fish!

Add Lewis, Taylor, Birchall, Ellis, Guerra, and Gilham to Franklin and Roughead and you get a better idea of the effect of the 04-05 drafts to Hawthorns success this year. You're right that alot of the foundations were built in 2001 and earlier, but I think you are selling the 04-05 draftees...

If it was left open to help Essendon, next time they should tell us so we don't pick such a top heavy foward line.