AFL Player #16: Archie Perkins - Re-signed for two more years - 3/6

[Beerfish]

Contract Status: Out of contract 2024
My Boy Draft 2024: Pick 9, sup3rfish

 

[outersanctum]

spud. trade him now and try to rebuild. Perkins is a solid vfl flanker at best.

so slow, so poor. Just another Essington special.

 

[yodellinhank]

Talls take time

 

[faible]

For a guy who gets a bit lost in the midfield, playing him on a wing seems like it was always destined to fail.

I wouldn't be opposed to seeing him tried off a HBF for a while. Has a good tank, good overhead, generally a nice user who takes the play forwards. Maybe following a man around (he's done this OK in the midfield) will help his game.

 

[P Money]

Never seen 'it' with Arch, not seeing 'it' now

 

[Old Campaigner]

He looked pretty good before we tried him in the midfield. Confident, dynamic, got to good positions.

 

[P Money]

Meh. Just Essendon fans overrating Essendon players if you ask me. Has looked ok at times, has had a few good games. To my eyes has never jumped out as being anything particularly special. Have seen more to like from Archie Roberts in his two games.

 

[BomberManU]

Either doesn't like playing, or doesn't like EFC.

 

[yodellinhank]

Either doesn't like playing, or doesn't like EFC.

Soft shell, hard shell

 

[Call Me Cake]

To my eyes has never jumped out as being anything particularly special. Have seen more to like from Archie Roberts in his two games.

His first year was good, if you don't think so then you're stretching.

 

[donlav99]

Ahhh the Prince of Portsea. He's got all the hallmarks of a Brighton Grammar boy. Not sure he has the will or desire to be a top flight AFL player. Would love to be proven wrong, his highlights are fantastic, but just a space cadet who's unable to focus for 120 mins of footy.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

For a guy who gets a bit lost in the midfield…

Maybe following a man around (he's done this OK in the midfield) will help his game.

Will never forget the game against the dogs last year when Perkins was following Bont around Marvel. Bont took the piss with 29 disposals, 2 goals and 11 marks. Perkins had 8 disposals and was barely sighted despite “following” the best player on the ground.

 

[Agronomus]

Mark Bolton wasn't lazy, but outside of playing on Goodes once or twice a year he was rubbish.

What's Mark Bolton got to do with Perkins?

 

[Kong]

What's Mark Bolton got to do with Perkins?

Have a read of the post I quoted.

 

[DERO]

Kind of reminds me of Langford TBH. We tried to shoehorn him into a midfielder before finally realising he played his best footy as a forward. Archie could still end up a very good flanker.

 

[nipst@r]

I'd say play stinger role or dominate the 2s as a fwd or mid and play him back in the 1s only if he starts kicking bags and ragdolling vfl players.

 

[Kong]

Kind of reminds me of Langford TBH. We tried to shoehorn him into a midfielder before finally realising he played his best footy as a forward. Archie could still end up a very good flanker.

Feels inevitable.

 

[Jobe Watson]

His problem isn't what position he's played in, it's his desire. You could play Zak Butters

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Zak Butters

Age

24

Ht

181cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.3

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.8

3star

D

14.7

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

5.9

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.1

3star

D

17.0

5star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

in any position on the field and he'd find a way to have an impact because that's just who he is. Perkins shows no willingness to work hard to get involved in games no matter what position he's in, he just waits for the game to come to him. His attitude stinks.

 

[Shanghaistu]

His problem isn't what position he's played in, it's his desire. You could play Zak Butters in any position on the field and he'd find a way to have an impact because that's just who he is. Perkins shows no willingness to work hard to get involved in games no matter what position he's in, he just waits for the game to come to him. His attitude stinks.

Sounds like the kind of guy our players would vote into the leadership group

 

[Kong]

His problem isn't what position he's played in, it's his desire. You could play Zak Butters

9

Zak Butters

Age

24

Ht

181cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.3

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.8

3star

D

14.7

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

5.9

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.1

3star

D

17.0

5star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

in any position on the field and he'd find a way to have an impact because that's just who he is. Perkins shows no willingness to work hard to get involved in games no matter what position he's in, he just waits for the game to come to him. His attitude stinks.

Yeah, yet another player that only plays well in very specific conditions. The club is overrun with them.

having said that, chuck him into that loose man in defence role yodellinhank

 

[FlyingV]

Year in Review: Archie Perkins

Midfielder opens up on 2024 challenges, learning from experiences.

www.essendonfc.com.au

 

[FlyingV]

Year in Review: Archie Perkins

Midfielder opens up on 2024 challenges, learning from experiences.

www.essendonfc.com.au

Interesting couple of points at the end of the article around wanting to have fun in a high pressure environment. I feel like that’s what Geelong, Richmond, Collingwood and now hawthorn do so well.

 

[faible]

Interesting couple of points at the end of the article around wanting to have fun in a high pressure environment. I feel like that’s what Geelong, Richmond, Collingwood and now hawthorn do so well.

Easy to have fun when you're winning, I suspect Richmond was fun but now isn't as fun, for example.

 

[MiguelM]

Easy to have fun when you're winning, I suspect Richmond was fun but now isn't as fun, for example.

Yep, cracks were starting to show with Pies too. Mcrae not so warm and cuddly at the Pressers late in the year.

We were having fun too until Dees/Cats!

 

[joey_jo_jo]

Its all well and good to say he should take Stringers spot but the problems I see are:
A) I have never seen him display the aggression/physicality Stringer has in congestion
B) arent most of us saying we cant fit both Stringer and Langford in same forward line?

If we cant find a new home for him or arent willing to move him on I think the coaching team needs to have an honest chat to him and make it clear he will be doing a long stint in VFL working on his craft. no more gifting games just because he is a high draft pick.

 

[faible]

Its all well and good to say he should take Stringers spot but the problems I see are:
A) I have never seen him display the aggression/physicality Stringer has in congestion
B) arent most of us saying we cant fit both Stringer and Langford in same forward line?

If we cant find a new home for him or arent willing to move him on I think the coaching team needs to have an honest chat to him and make it clear he will be doing a long stint in VFL working on his craft. no more gifting games just because he is a high draft pick.

Perkins has a much better tank than Stringer and would play higher IMO. He generally takes the game forward and central when he gets possession, which I'd think makes him well suited to that high-half forward role if he's going to play anywhere.

We've got issues because we're trying to play 2 'tall' mediums alongside 1 - 2 genuine KPPs (I'd put Caddy in that category) and 1 - 2 Ruckmen. Neither of those mediums provide elite ground level pressure, nor does Wright or Draper, and we lack smalls with genuine closing speed. It's a bad mix.

Removing Stringer doesn't fix everything, but it opens up a spot for Perkins + a small who should both be more capable of providing ground level pressure and are younger which gives scope for the future.

Stringer is what he is, if we're not likely to be challenging in the next 2 years we're not going to get what we need from him and if he can get a good contract from a contender I'd say it probably works for both long-term for him to take it.

If he's staying, we need to use him more intelligently than we have been, and work out where Perkins fits in a forward-line that already has two medium sized goal-kickers, or I wouldn't be averse to seeing Martin back to the wing and trying Perkins off half-back given he's quite a decent kick and tends to go forward not sideways.