Player Watch #20 Jacob Koschitzke

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This trade looked promising but it was only promising because we bugger all depth in key tall forwards. Kozi sucks so bad it's not even a joke. He touches the ball with his hands but can't grab it. Doesn't offer us anything down the line on the wing like Lynch does as the relieving mark, doesn't offer us anything in the forward line, hardly a presence when he goes into the ruck. No wonder Dusty had to play a lot more forward. I look at the Dogs' tall forwards and i'm so jealous. I mean Jamarra took a one handed mark and Kozi can't even take a mark with 2 hands. The problem is Samson is weak as piss and gives up at the drop of a hat when he's in the ruck and gets manhandled by key defenders. Lets put the Crayfish in. Honestly Vickery should put the boots back on :cool:
 
This trade looked promising but it was only promising because we bugger all depth in key tall forwards. Kozi sucks so bad it's not even a joke. He touches the ball with his hands but can't grab it. Doesn't offer us anything down the line on the wing like Lynch does as the relieving mark, doesn't offer us anything in the forward line, hardly a presence when he goes into the ruck. No wonder Dusty had to play a lot more forward. I look at the Dogs' tall forwards and i'm so jealous. I mean Jamarra took a one handed mark and Kozi can't even take a mark with 2 hands. The problem is Samson is weak as piss and gives up at the drop of a hat when he's in the ruck and gets manhandled by key defenders. Lets put the Crayfish in. Honestly Vickery should put the boots back on :cool:
It was a bullshit trade and only more evidence of the poor list managers in our club. I was giggling how nearly every poster had him best 22. I thought thought initially they were picking our VFL side.
 

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No he wasn't, he was offered another deal by the hawks.
One year from memory. As lowly as they are they couldn't see a future for him at the club beyond a single season. We on the other hand offered him three. Hawks don't have much to laugh about at the moment but I guess they've at least got this...
 
One year from memory. As lowly as they are they couldn't see a future for him at the club beyond a single season. We on the other hand offered him three. Hawks don't have much to laugh about at the moment but I guess they've at least got this...
Did you see the deal they gave Chol?
 
Did you see the deal they gave Chol
Yes it was excessive. But check out Hawthorn board, up until Saturday he had exceeded their expectations and in their opinion had played some extremely good football. Although in fairness Koschitzke has also exceeded the expectations of many here as well. He is even more crap than they thought he would be.
 
I would send him back to the VFL to trial as a defender. Can't play him again as a forward.
It is clear he will never, ever make it as a forward.

Many failed forwards have gone on to salvage themselves as defenders however so I agree we should trial him there because we have nothing to lose. If that worked it would allow us to entertain trialling Gibcus as a KPF on his return.
 

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Yes it was excessive. But check out Hawthorn board, up until Saturday he had exceeded their expectations and in their opinion had played some extremely good football. Although in fairness Koschitzke has also exceeded the expectations of many here as well. He is even more crap than they thought he would be.
Chol has played 1 good match against Geelong and a few terrible ones.
 
It is clear he will never, ever make it as a forward.

Many failed forwards have gone on to salvage themselves as defenders however so I agree we should trial him there because we have nothing to lose. If that worked it would allow us to entertain trialling Gibcus as a KPF on his return.
true... we turned Astbury around by swinging him from foward to defence - that move payed off in spades for us
its the 3 year contract that we gave him that pisses me the most..totally ridiculous and embarrassing for the club
 
true... we turned Astbury around by swinging him from foward to defence - that move payed off in spades for us
its the 3 year contract that we gave him that pisses me the most..totally ridiculous and embarrassing for the club
Darcy Moore, Liam Jones, Esava Ratugolea, Patty McCartin, Jack Lukosious, Jeremy Howe, Josh Battle, there's plenty more if I gave it more than a minute of thought over the years, so it's not unprecedented.

Kosi doesn't look slow to me, and he also looks like someone who tries pretty hard and is willing to work, so I reckon he could physically keep up with the forwards and be willing to give it 100% which might be half the battle.

Much easier giving him a clear directive of follow this guy and bring the ball to ground and try and crash every pack when the high ball comes in and just start from there, keeping it simple.

3 years is a laugh too. Who else was competing for him? No one, the Hawks didn't even want him.
Could have easily got him across on a 1 year prove it deal or 2 year deal at worst.
 
nOne good match is your opinion. All I’m saying is they seem far happier with him than we are with Koschitzke. A win up until last Saturday for what they paid. Pity we can’t say the same…
It's a fact.

Hawks gave up a 2nd round pick for Chol and he's probably on twice as much coin and for 4 years. We gave up a late 3rd that we wouldn't have even used. Not sure either club are 'happy'.
one more than Kozi
That is true.
 
He was never recruited to be the #1 forward taking the #1 key defender and being double teamed every week. He was meant to be the 2nd/3rd tall. Some of the carry on by people makes it sounds like he was meant to be Ton Lynch mk2.
Doesn't matter what number target he's meant to be if he can't hold a mark.
 

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Player Watch #20 Jacob Koschitzke

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