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2008 Official BigFooty Phantom Draft
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Ben the Gooner
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So are we to take it that Essendon are passing at 67
No we'll be going pretty deep into the draft, given Hislop was delisted.
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I dont think his skills are that bad. he plays a role where he doesnt get a lot of time and he is good at it. ultimately the ability to win possession at a contest is invaluable in modern footy and at this level he would be in the top 5 ball winners. in saying all that i agree he will go late but am thinking more 4/5th round than rookie. love to see him get a go in front of the soft c*cks who hang about waiting for someone to give it to them.
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Pick 67 Essendon Steven Motlop 181cm 68kg Northern Territory OB/Utility
Motlop is a very exciting footballer who represents excellent value at this stage of the draft. Motlop is very bottom aged (March 91) and obviously has a heap of development still in him.
Motlop has a lot of flair, likes to take players on, can take an exciting mark and likes kicking a goal.
He will need to build his body to cope with the rigours of AFL footy but he has a heap of natural talent and I would back the club in to help this youngster settle and get the best out of himself. I think if it all clicked Motlop could be an A grade footballer and that is an attractive proposition this late in the draft.
Players I considered here were Patrick Hayes, Brad Mangan and Will Young however I think Motlop could be better than all of them.
I hope we do a rookie draft after this process as it would give us all the chance to perhaps balance our recruiting. I am mindful that I have drafted relatively small however there are a few talls which I would certainly look to rookie who I dont think are to the quality of the players I have taken at 55 and 67 especially. Interestingly I have chosen 3 bottom aged players and a top ager born in November- the baby bombers indeed.
Motlop is a very exciting footballer who represents excellent value at this stage of the draft. Motlop is very bottom aged (March 91) and obviously has a heap of development still in him.
Motlop has a lot of flair, likes to take players on, can take an exciting mark and likes kicking a goal.
He will need to build his body to cope with the rigours of AFL footy but he has a heap of natural talent and I would back the club in to help this youngster settle and get the best out of himself. I think if it all clicked Motlop could be an A grade footballer and that is an attractive proposition this late in the draft.
Players I considered here were Patrick Hayes, Brad Mangan and Will Young however I think Motlop could be better than all of them.
I hope we do a rookie draft after this process as it would give us all the chance to perhaps balance our recruiting. I am mindful that I have drafted relatively small however there are a few talls which I would certainly look to rookie who I dont think are to the quality of the players I have taken at 55 and 67 especially. Interestingly I have chosen 3 bottom aged players and a top ager born in November- the baby bombers indeed.
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Very Good Pick there Mate for Essendon
Very Good Pick there Mate for Essendon
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you are good foj1 - you didnt even have him in your mock. I had him around 50 in mine and he was right in the slot for my last
Alistair Smith
medium sized midfielder with very good pace and endurance as well as reasonable skill- just a neat alround midfielder who seems a likely type for the next stage up.
I was tossing up taking him earlier at the Daly pick but thought he would probably fall through to this point.
medium sized midfielder with very good pace and endurance as well as reasonable skill- just a neat alround midfielder who seems a likely type for the next stage up.
I was tossing up taking him earlier at the Daly pick but thought he would probably fall through to this point.
Nice pick again Ysaye. As I mentioned in my last pick the plan before Hall fell was to go with either Smith or Richardson. Given that both looked like being available at my pick I had decided to go with Smith. I actually prefer Alistair to Ashley for the Lions. Both are exceptionally quick with Alistair having the better endurance and being a ball winning mid rather than a running backman. If he didn't have injury issues for much of the year I think we would have been hearing a lot more of him. For the Lions I could have seen him leading the new running brigade with Dalzeill and Hall and giving us the pace we are a bit short on at the moment.
Anyway you taking him leaves me with Richardson who I am still happy to get. The Lions are the most inaccurate goal kickers in the competition and are really short of a goal scoring small forward. Richardson has been a slow developer but he just keeps stepping up and scoring goals. At this stage I think he is a good bet.
Pick 69 Brisbane - Ian Richardson
Ian Richardson (DOB – 14/10/87, Ht – 179, Wt – 74)
This 21 year old really burst onto the WAFL scene this year as a permanent small forward for Claremont. He won Claremont’s best and fairest averaging 14 possessions and kicking 62 goals in his 20 games. He also represented WA in the State match against Queensland where he kicked 4 goals and was named best on ground. He is a leading forward mainly who does crumb well when called for but is not super quick. He is an excellent read of the play, takes a nice mark for his size and is smart in the way he works to advantage. He is a very accurate shot for goal and has consistently kicked goals at whatever level of competition he has played. He got increasing attention from the opposition as the year progressed and handled it very well. He is not tall and I would also like to see him put on a few kilos to mix it up at AFL level. He has some potential to play in the midfield but I think a team that picks him will do so on the basis that he is a full time small forward. He was invited to camp this year which is an indication that there are more than a few clubs interested in him. At camp he showed a good tank for a small forward coming in 7th in the beep test (14.2). He has been reported at anywhere from 175 to 179 in height and it would help his prospects if he was measured in the upper end of that range.
Anyway you taking him leaves me with Richardson who I am still happy to get. The Lions are the most inaccurate goal kickers in the competition and are really short of a goal scoring small forward. Richardson has been a slow developer but he just keeps stepping up and scoring goals. At this stage I think he is a good bet.
Pick 69 Brisbane - Ian Richardson
Ian Richardson (DOB – 14/10/87, Ht – 179, Wt – 74)
This 21 year old really burst onto the WAFL scene this year as a permanent small forward for Claremont. He won Claremont’s best and fairest averaging 14 possessions and kicking 62 goals in his 20 games. He also represented WA in the State match against Queensland where he kicked 4 goals and was named best on ground. He is a leading forward mainly who does crumb well when called for but is not super quick. He is an excellent read of the play, takes a nice mark for his size and is smart in the way he works to advantage. He is a very accurate shot for goal and has consistently kicked goals at whatever level of competition he has played. He got increasing attention from the opposition as the year progressed and handled it very well. He is not tall and I would also like to see him put on a few kilos to mix it up at AFL level. He has some potential to play in the midfield but I think a team that picks him will do so on the basis that he is a full time small forward. He was invited to camp this year which is an indication that there are more than a few clubs interested in him. At camp he showed a good tank for a small forward coming in 7th in the beep test (14.2). He has been reported at anywhere from 175 to 179 in height and it would help his prospects if he was measured in the upper end of that range.
Great picks so far Ysaye, can not fault them. Glad to see you have addressed freo major problem area there midfield.
Just wondering if i am the only one surprised that hayden ballantine hasnt been picked yet?
Just wondering if i am the only one surprised that hayden ballantine hasnt been picked yet?
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You'd rookie him, and see how he developed over 2 years. Can't see him ending up on anyone's primary list in November.
I imagine its the BF theory that he's slack and dosnt have the commitment to play afl after what happend with not going to the camp.
I think alot of clubs will be interested after his results and season that he had this year and will put the missing in action at the camp down to a complete acident.
i hope we nab him late but think he wont last past the third round and would prefer him over everybodies fav for us in jetta.
Edit: great draft and read from everyone concerned.
been following from the start and special mention to VC for the top job of orgonising it.
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The first and second posts of the thread are up to date with the full draft order so far and the club by club breakdown.
For reference here is the order for the rest of the draft:
Pick 70 - Richmond (TFLUA-Tiger)
Pick 71 - North Melbourne (chrsco)
Pick 72 - Adelaide (Thunderstruck)
Pick 73 - Collingwood (Snoop Dog)
Pick 74 - St.Kilda (Bourky23)
Pick 75 - Hawthorn (LukeHodge15)
ROUND 6
Pick 76 - Fremantle (Ysaye)
Pick 77 - Port Adelaide (Vic Crow)
Pick 78 - Essendon (foj1)
Pick 79 - Carlton (HBF)
Pick 80 - Brisbane (Quigley)
Pick 81 - Brisbane (Quigley)
ROUND 7
Pick 82 - Port Adelaide (Vic Crow)
Pick 83 - Carlton (HBF)
For reference here is the order for the rest of the draft:
Pick 70 - Richmond (TFLUA-Tiger)
Pick 71 - North Melbourne (chrsco)
Pick 72 - Adelaide (Thunderstruck)
Pick 73 - Collingwood (Snoop Dog)
Pick 74 - St.Kilda (Bourky23)
Pick 75 - Hawthorn (LukeHodge15)
ROUND 6
Pick 76 - Fremantle (Ysaye)
Pick 77 - Port Adelaide (Vic Crow)
Pick 78 - Essendon (foj1)
Pick 79 - Carlton (HBF)
Pick 80 - Brisbane (Quigley)
Pick 81 - Brisbane (Quigley)
ROUND 7
Pick 82 - Port Adelaide (Vic Crow)
Pick 83 - Carlton (HBF)
Gotta be quick, write up later i promise VC
Pick 64 - Melbourne - Zachary Clarke
Melbourne get a ruckman which would be one of the needs that would be identified before the start of the draft. Maybe should've taken a ruckman earlier, but none of the ruckman i was interested in really slid. I was hopeful of getting Stanley here, but i'm not unhappy with Clarke. We could've used someone who would be ready sooner as our ruck stocks are pretty poor, but i would not think any of Melbourne's picks would be about addressing major concerns next season.
Great height at 203cm and also has an impressive leap for a bloke of his size giving him a huge reach. Still has a lot to learn about how to ruck as he probably doesn't win enough hitouts for a kid of his size, but he's gives everything and should improve dramatically under AFL tutelage.
Pretty good around the ground and has above par disposals for a ruckman. Has played forward a bit at TAC level and shown that he knows where the goals are with a decent set shot. Could provide a handful as a resting forward. He got a lot better towards the end of the TAC year, with some impressive form and this elevated him up my rankings from a chance or rookie pick to a 3rd/4th round pick. Still needs to put on a lot of weight as he's only 84kg at present, but he has gained 7-8kgs this year, so it shouldn't take more then a season or 2 before he can hold his own.
A ruckman with our final pick means Melbourne have picked up everything they were after with their 6 picks.
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Richmond Pick #70 - Liam Jones - 194 cm, 84 kg
Underaged AIS Scholarship holder who fits a need. Missed most of this year due to injury, and didn't represent his home state (Tasmania) in the U/18 carnival.
Is of good height, got good agility and pace, has a very nice set of hands, and likes to take a 'specky'.
Watched Jones take Clarence Under 17's apart three years ago with 8 goals, and he just screamed future prospect. Very quick, lost his man easily, and was marking everything, both on the lead and in the air. Scholarship holder with Melbourne Grammar if I remember correctly, Jones has too much upside to pass up on at this late pick.
Underaged AIS Scholarship holder who fits a need. Missed most of this year due to injury, and didn't represent his home state (Tasmania) in the U/18 carnival.
Is of good height, got good agility and pace, has a very nice set of hands, and likes to take a 'specky'.
Watched Jones take Clarence Under 17's apart three years ago with 8 goals, and he just screamed future prospect. Very quick, lost his man easily, and was marking everything, both on the lead and in the air. Scholarship holder with Melbourne Grammar if I remember correctly, Jones has too much upside to pass up on at this late pick.
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So instead of getting the 1st selection in the PD, I get the last. Whoo Hoo!
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This one was a real lottery. I was undecided on whether to go KP or mid again. Some of the names I considered were Liam Anthony, Gugliotta, Gilchrist (could have been swayed on him but in all honesty I don't know much about him other than some impressive youtube clips) or even Ballantyne.
In the end I've selected:
Pick 71 - Adam Cockie, 180 cm, midfield.
Hard at it midfielder who played in a WAFL league premiership this year, at 19 and was arguably BOG. It is no coincidence that Phil Read is in his team because he's plays a similar style but with neat skills and without the niggle Read was famous for. His Subiaco football manager said that pound for pound he was the toughest player in the WAFL, and he wouldn't be far wrong. If the ball is there to be won he would win it more times than not, but also has good vision and a good feel for the game.
He's exactly the sort of player I really like, will put their head over the ball to win it and not flinch. Will be able to make an immediate impact in Norths side, with the retirements of a couple of their mids.
In the end I've selected:
Pick 71 - Adam Cockie, 180 cm, midfield.
Hard at it midfielder who played in a WAFL league premiership this year, at 19 and was arguably BOG. It is no coincidence that Phil Read is in his team because he's plays a similar style but with neat skills and without the niggle Read was famous for. His Subiaco football manager said that pound for pound he was the toughest player in the WAFL, and he wouldn't be far wrong. If the ball is there to be won he would win it more times than not, but also has good vision and a good feel for the game.
He's exactly the sort of player I really like, will put their head over the ball to win it and not flinch. Will be able to make an immediate impact in Norths side, with the retirements of a couple of their mids.
Good pick.
Is a player who can play both up forward which is a massive plus for all teams. I see him going pick 47/48 to St Kilda because he trained with them and his dad played a few matches for them.
He is a scholarship holder at Scotch, played 1 or 2 practise games before doing his knee.
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cannot believe you took him. i had him squirrelled away. hadnt even talked about him. terrific prospect......v good selection.
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No way I was going to go past the former local boy with a lot of upside.
Sorry for ruining your plans Snoop
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No way I was going to go past the former local boy with a lot of upside.
Sorry for ruining your plans Snoop
i am not around over next few days so have given my write up for next selection to VC but there is a lengthy diatribe about how annoyed i was you took him.
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Tomorrow. Along with my write up of Sam Wright as well. It's late now and I haven't had a heap of quality time online the last few days.
I know that there was at least one other poster planning to snare him just before I did.
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