List Mgmt. 2014: The List

[gbatman]

I wouldn't be throwing any big money at any more free agents, only half of our best 22 is top 4 quality, it's only going to dig a hole for us bringing in over payed 26 year olds. We will fall short and damage our list trying to patch up holes to build a premiership team, it's too big of a job, there are too many holes.

At this stage we need a rebuild, that if things go well should only last around 3 years hopefully. Maybe 5.

We already have a reasonable core of players and a good environment for young players to come into. We already have a group of decent young players waiting to be picked.

We have a long lst of regular best 22 players who need to be traded or retired, we just aren't at a stage in our building where a big free agent is practical.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Agree, unless there is a ready made key forward prospect available (which there isn't until patton is avail next year) I think we should be using the draft.

 

[Garth Vader]

Knightmare always gives us a 178cm mid with shit disposal.

I Lol'd

 

[gbatman]

Agree, unless there is a ready made key forward prospect available (which there isn't until patton is avail next year) I think we should be using the draft.

Even then, he would want to still be there in 5 years time. Despite what the media suggests our biggest problem is not a lack of a key forward, it's the midfield. And that's not going to be fixed with one big name or even two, it's a solid group of young stars that will get us up and going again in this position.

 

[Coona Blues]

Agree, unless there is a ready made key forward prospect available (which there isn't until patton is avail next year) I think we should be using the draft.

Why the hell do people think the GWS boys or a high value free agent only game in town?

There are 17 other teams out there, a couple with an excess of young key forwards. I flagged it in the pre season and was shot down by this board's own Mr McKay and to a lesser extent Jeremias. West Coast have an excess of ready to go young rucks and forwards who are unlikely to get a go in the near future.
Cox has flagged a desire for another year, NicNat, Kennedy, Darling, Sinclair currently the flavour of the month. Lycett must be getting fed up with waiting, Fraser McInnes is the one I like who showed plenty in NAB Cup, McGovern, the list goes on. "Mid sized" Colledge debuted last week, Tunbridge in the same mould knocking on the door after promising cameos last year. 190cm plus mid sized we are talking about, who play forward/midfield.

We have WA boys who have some value on the trade table. This is a realistic option. For those not aware, McInnes is Rob Whiley's nephew, and is also a perfect 25% 2nd ruck type as well.

For the record I was amazed at Bootsma being a first round pick. Too speculative. A poster suggested here that he was recruited as a spoiling 3rd tall. That is bull 5hit. His highlights showed him playing midfield and flanks, a running type. He grew a bit more than expected, showed a talent for spoiling, is now pigeon holed as a 3rd tall. I suspect the kid does not see himself in that role. Get over the idea his relatively slight body is what is holding him back. Sides are screaming for larger mids, we have a prospect who is going down the path as a likely failure, when he does not need to be.
Was surprised at his high draft recruitment, but the kid can be a player. His debut which excited so ,was not played in deep defence. This may bring more "awareness", and make him look like he enjoys playing football.

 

[Sector 7G]

Knightmare always gives us a 178cm mid with shit disposal.

There was quite a discussion on how he thought Carltons recruiters would make the mistake of taking the overrated Nathan Freeman. Probably wishes he could take some of those comments back after Freeeman went to the pies

 

[Sector 7G]

Why the hell do people think the GWS boys or a high value free agent only game in town?

There are 17 other teams out there, a couple with an excess of young key forwards. I flagged it in the pre season and was shot down by this board's own Mr McKay and to a lesser extent Jeremias. West Coast have an excess of ready to go young rucks and forwards who are unlikely to get a go in the near future.
Cox has flagged a desire for another year, NicNat, Kennedy, Darling, Sinclair currently the flavour of the month. Lycett must be getting fed up with waiting, Fraser McInnes is the one I like who showed plenty in NAB Cup, McGovern, the list goes on. "Mid sized" Colledge debuted last week, Tunbridge in the same mould knocking on the door after promising cameos last year. 190cm plus mid sized we are talking about, who play forward/midfield.

We have WA boys who have some value on the trade table. This is a realistic option. For those not aware, McInnes is Rob Whiley's nephew, and is also a perfect 25% 2nd ruck type as well.

For the record I was amazed at Bootsma being a first round pick. Too speculative. A poster suggested here that he was recruited as a spoiling 3rd tall. That is bull 5hit. His highlights showed him playing midfield and flanks, a running type. He grew a bit more than expected, showed a talent for spoiling, is now pigeon holed as a 3rd tall. I suspect the kid does not see himself in that role. Get over the idea his relatively slight body is what is holding him back. Sides are screaming for larger mids, we have a prospect who is going down the path as a likely failure, when he does not need to be.
Was surprised at his high draft recruitment, but the kid can be a player. His debut which excited so ,was not played in deep defence. This may bring more "awareness", and make him look like he enjoys playing football.

But Boots isn't really a first round pick and shouldn't be judged as one. Effectively pick 34 with the 12 17yrs GWS were able to select (Shiels, Treloar,Cameron etc). That was an early 3rd rounder not so long ago

 

[Kensa Carter]

Hearing a lot of names from the expansion teams being thrown about as targets, specifically Tomlinson and Jaksch. Probably because they were high picks and play key position.

Anyone know details about these kids? Don't watch too much NEAFL to be honest!

 

[Jeremias]

Why the hell do people think the GWS boys or a high value free agent only game in town?

There are 17 other teams out there, a couple with an excess of young key forwards. I flagged it in the pre season and was shot down by this board's own Mr McKay and to a lesser extent Jeremias.

I don't recall ever shooting you down for suggesting we look at talent from clubs other than GWS.

Sounds like a logical thing to do and something I've argued in support of many times so please, show me where I did that.

 

[thebluelagoon]

I really don't mean to intrude on this ever intriguing discussion about where the Blues are at. One thing I have noticed with the blues is the similarity between so many of your players. One poster mentioned that you had 4 virtually identical types all in the team on Sunday night.

What makes up a great side is the dynamic and the individuality that each player will bring to the side.

yea i noticed that too, they all had a blue jumper on...

 

[Silvagnis]

As posted by Eastern Hills...



AFL/ AIS v Collingwood Reserves 2014

#1 Jarrod Pickett
#2 Clem Smith
#3 Lachlan Weller
#4 Jaden McGrath
#5 Bardley Walsh
#6 Liam Duggan
#7 Isaac Henney
#8 Billy Stretch
#9 Liam Griffiths
#11 Jackson Nelson
#13 Ryan Lim
#12 Angus Brayshaw
#15 Liam Dawson
#16 Daniel Capiron
#19 Mac Bower
#20 Tom Lamb
#22 Matthew Ah Siu
#23 Hugh Goddard
#24 Matthew Hammelmann
#25 Jesse Watchman
#27 Christian Petrecca
#28 Samuel Bevan
#29 Peter Wright
#30 Sean McLaren
#31 Duom Dawam

 

[Stig O'Hara]

What would be great would be to get a 5 time AA, a fit guaranteed big game finals player, a first rounder .....and say a tall mid after his best season onto the list.

Maybe it's just me.

 

[BM123]

Shopping list.

1x Young quality KPF
1x 185cm + tall mid who has a good inside/outside mixed skillset.
1x Project ruck

Or

1x Young Quality KPF ( GWS talls or draft)
1x Young Quality KPD ( draft)
1x Project ruck


That's assuming that we only have three picks. We need mids and KPP coming through. A few mids with good engines that can play on the outside and insie would be handy as well since we are light on in this area.

 

[GT619]

Goddard, Wright, lamb on my shopping list... also McGrath and brayshaw

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[Kramer1]

Knightmare always gives us a 178cm mid with shit disposal.

So true. Generally followed by a VFL plodder in the second round, and the ultimate project tall in the third.

 

[Coona Blues]

I don't recall ever shooting you down for suggesting we look at talent from clubs other than GWS.

Sounds like a logical thing to do and something I've argued in support of many times so please, show me where I did that.

PM coming your way, you may not like this answered in public.

 

[Silvagnis]

Goddard, Wright, lamb on my shopping list... also McGrath and brayshaw

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Have to get Bower.

 

[etsal1]

Josh Kelly's dad didn't play enough games @ north to be eligible f/s last year.

And now Angus Brayshaw (who won the medal for best on ground for the AIS team), is also in eligible because his dad only played around 60 games.

That's some bad luck there.

 

[Azul]

That's some bad luck there.

We only have ourselves to blame when the kids of Kennedy, Jacobs, Hampson and Grigg become superstars.

I would have liked us to gift Fisher an extra game - cruel to leave him on 99 games.

 

[etsal1]

Damien Barrett (in his weekly sliding doors article) said he will be shocked if Jeffy is on our list next year.

Either he is just speculating, or maybe he has some sort of info? Who knows. Just thought it was strange that he was so definitive that Jeffy is gone.

 

[Aphrodite]

Damien Barrett (in his weekly sliding doors article) said he will be shocked if Jeffy is on our list next year.

Either he is just speculating, or maybe he has some sort of info? Who knows. Just thought it was strange that he was so definitive that Jeffy is gone.

Why does anyone even take any notice of this buffoon!

 

[Sin City]

Damien Barrett (in his weekly sliding doors article) said he will be shocked if Jeffy is on our list next year.

Either he is just speculating, or maybe he has some sort of info? Who knows. Just thought it was strange that he was so definitive that Jeffy is gone.

Good one

 

[chunkylover53]

Damo literally make things up as he goes along.

But wouldn't surprise if Garlett isn't around. Haven't seen him enjoy himself out there for months now.

 

[HBF]

In terms of the November draft I trust Shane Rogers and his team to get the right players to the club again.
He's done a brilliant job in 2012 & 2013 and there is no reason why he can't complete the hat-trick in 2014.

 

[Garth Vader]

Why does anyone even take any notice of this buffoon!

Those edgy, Alain Mickli glasses are a telltale sign that his reporting is flawless.